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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2011 22:18:48 GMT -5
Hey guys!
Wondering if you can help me out on something that I've never really been able to get a straight answer from...
What happened/led to the releases of Bam Bam Bigelow in 1995 and Sycho Sid in 1997?
In 1995, Bam Bam Bigelow MAIN EVENTED Wrestlemania 11 against Lawrence Taylor, turned babyface and teamed with World Champ Diesel in some pretty major main event matches. Next thing I know, he lost to Goldust at Survivor Series 1995 and disappeared. The only thing I can find online about his release was something about him having problems with "The Kliq".
In 1997, Sycho Sid MAIN EVENTED Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania 13 defending the World Championship at both events. Then I remember he was in some 6 person tag match with LOD against the Hart Foundation in which he took the pinfall against Owen and was just kind of written off...what the heck happened!?!?
Thanks guys! As always, the "classic wrestling" section is the best board on this forum.
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Post by Barney Stinson on Oct 11, 2011 22:41:48 GMT -5
I don't know what happened with Bigelow, but I have heard some stories about Sid, but don't know how factual they are.
In the Spring/Summer of 97 Sid, Flash Funk, Doug Furnas & Phil Lafon were in a Car Wreck traveling to a show. Flash Funk escaped with no injuries, Furnas & Lafon had some injuries and Sid messed up his back. This accident did happen.
From here I don't know if this is 100% true but it's what I heard. Sid supposedly needed back surgery and told WWF, and they were cool with it, but then stuff happened causing WWF to question the authenticity of the injury and he was fired. I think he was supposed to wrestle Vader at Summerslam 97.
Sorry I don't have much more info, but hope this helps.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2011 23:11:45 GMT -5
I never heard about this car wreck...interesting.
It's just hard for me to comprehend how both Bigelow & Sid were getting pushed so strongly and main eventing Wrestlemania's for them just to be written off...
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Post by Barney Stinson on Oct 11, 2011 23:24:35 GMT -5
Yeah I found the Bigelow thing weird as well. I thought he was going to be a big babyface, but after King of the Ring he pretty much faded out. It's a shame because he was one hell of a big man wrestler. Here is a link to a story about the car wreck. amitgogna.tripod.com/news.html |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2011 23:56:01 GMT -5
Yeah I found the Bigelow thing weird as well. I thought he was going to be a big babyface, but after King of the Ring he pretty much faded out. It's a shame because he was one hell of a big man wrestler. Here is a link to a story about the car wreck. amitgogna.tripod.com/news.htmlWow man...totally had no idea. Thank you for this! +1 |
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Oct 12, 2011 9:39:17 GMT -5
I completely forgot about the car accident. The thing with Bigelow is pretty weird. I don't think they should have turned him face. Because he was face he basically was in direct competition with Shawn Michaels Razor Ramon, and Diesel. If he would have stayed heel he could have worked programs with all those guys in the main events. Then maybe the "kilq" wouldn't have had so called problems with him.
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Post by jammer311 on Oct 12, 2011 10:46:57 GMT -5
That's why he got turned face. Bigelow stated many times that the Kliq tried to run him out of the business. McMahon was always high on Bigelow, loved him actually. He was a big man who moved with grace. From my understanding, that year Vince had it planned to push Bigelow big time (and McMahon wanted to do that in 88 too since it was Bigelow who was supposed to win the 14 man Tournament to become WWE Champ, except he blew out his knee and had to leave so Savage got it).
So Bigelow gets the deal with LT at Mania and such and then he turns face out of no where. From what I gather and heard in shoots and read online, that Nash, HBK and Razor didn't want Bigelow to get a push, so they turned him face and he was kind of put with them. Thus it made Bigelow just a mid card face guy. It was soon after that he opted to not resign and left the WWE cause he didn't like how the Kliq were running things with Vince.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 11:03:11 GMT -5
Man...I respect HBK, Diesel, Razor and those guys but when I hear some of these stories about The Kliq...it really pisses me off.
They never should have let Bam Bam Bigelow go. He had WAY too much left to offer the business (see, ECW).
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Oct 12, 2011 11:41:12 GMT -5
The whole thing sucks...the mark in me would love to have seen Bigelow get a huge push. The guy could wrestle, he was high flying, he was good on the mic, and he had a one of a kind look. He would have fit in great in the attitude era aswell. He was great in ECW at that time...just imagine if Bigelow was a monster heel going after Austin, or a fued with Taker.
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Post by jammer311 on Oct 12, 2011 11:52:55 GMT -5
When Bigelow left ECW in November of 98 he almost signed with WWE to have the Bigelow vs. Austin feud, but he opted to sign with WCW for more money and job to Goldberg constantly before becoming a midcard WCW hardcore wrestler.
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Oct 12, 2011 12:05:47 GMT -5
That's why he got turned face. Bigelow stated many times that the Kliq tried to run him out of the business. McMahon was always high on Bigelow, loved him actually. He was a big man who moved with grace. From my understanding, that year Vince had it planned to push Bigelow big time (and McMahon wanted to do that in 88 too since it was Bigelow who was supposed to win the 14 man Tournament to become WWE Champ, except he blew out his knee and had to leave so Savage got it). So Bigelow gets the deal with LT at Mania and such and then he turns face out of no where. From what I gather and heard in shoots and read online, that Nash, HBK and Razor didn't want Bigelow to get a push, so they turned him face and he was kind of put with them. Thus it made Bigelow just a mid card face guy. It was soon after that he opted to not resign and left the WWE cause he didn't like how the Kliq were running things with Vince. Yea, I'm sure I've read that Bam Bam went along with letting LT win at WM11 only if he was given a babyface run as Champ, but the Kliq saw that that never happened. |
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Post by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 12:06:42 GMT -5
I always liked Bam Bam. I never knew he was slated for an ME push
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 14:35:45 GMT -5
The whole thing sucks...the mark in me would love to have seen Bigelow get a huge push. The guy could wrestle, he was high flying, he was good on the mic, and he had a one of a kind look. He would have fit in great in the attitude era aswell. He was great in ECW at that time...just imagine if Bigelow was a monster heel going after Austin, or a fued with Taker. I agree with all of this. I would've liked to see him maybe be involved with the Kane & Undertaker stuff. Paul Bearer could have even managed him. He also could have tagged with Vader again like the old Japan days. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 18:40:33 GMT -5
WWF should have resigned him to tag with Vader again.they were awesome.
as a face Bam Bam was smothered by the Kliq in 95......HBK,Razor, and Diesel were on top.then you had Undertaker too.....
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Post by Barney Stinson on Oct 12, 2011 19:23:07 GMT -5
WWF should have resigned him to tag with Vader again.they were awesome. as a face Bam Bam was smothered by the Kliq in 95......HBK,Razor, and Diesel were on top.then you had Undertaker too..... And Bret Hart. Bigelow was basically the#6 babyface. Maybe even #7, as Savio Vega was getting a better push at the time. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 6:08:19 GMT -5
WWF should have resigned him to tag with Vader again.they were awesome. as a face Bam Bam was smothered by the Kliq in 95......HBK,Razor, and Diesel were on top.then you had Undertaker too..... And Bret Hart. Bigelow was basically the#6 babyface. Maybe even #7, as Savio Vega was getting a better push at the time. yeah damn straight-I totally forgot Bret.yeah he was way down the pecking order. I also never heard anything to support him winning the tourney at WM4.....dont doubt it-just never heard a peep about it. Dibiase and Savage were the only names I heard mentioned in association with this. |
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Post by Marzec on Oct 13, 2011 10:06:15 GMT -5
I'm not sure about the Kliq thing. I'm sure it's true though. According to Dutch Mantells book, Bam Bam loved to smoke pot. Vince told him of a drug test a month in advance so that he could get clean. He passed it and then started smoking again that day. The next day he showed up to an arena show still stoned from the drive. As he got there he saw a sign on the wall that said "All Personel: Mandatory drug test, no exceptions." And that is the main reason that he was released.
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Post by jammer311 on Oct 13, 2011 11:13:52 GMT -5
Bam Bam stated it himself in his shoot that he was supposed to win it, but he blew out his knee so he couldn't. Which is why he had to job out so quick in the first round to Gang.
It would make sense for Bammer to win it, all house shows leading up to WM 4 it was Bam Bam and Hogan vs. Andre/Virgil and Dibiase. So clearly Bam Bam was in that main event spot and gonna get put into the title picture.
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Post by jason1980s on Oct 13, 2011 11:34:28 GMT -5
I think with the Mega Powers explosion and Savage being in the company long term the Wrestlemania IV win was the best decision. Dibiase could have been good too but the matches would be regular, either him v. Savage or him v. Hogan. By regular I mean only feuding over the belt, not feuding over the jealousy between Savage and Hogan.
I missed Bigelow in the 1996 Royal Rumble. He was scheduled even after Survivor Series but was no longer around to be there. I would have much preferred him over the outsiders like Dory Funk Jr., Omari, Squat Team or Doug Gilbert who weren't with the company before Royal Rumble and weren't there afterwards.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 22:33:10 GMT -5
The Kliq is one of the worst things to happen to wrestling, but if it wasn't for them breaking kayfabe we may have never gotten Stone Cold Steve Austin.
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