Jakks LOTR American Sting RSC Figure Insider Video

[RSCTom]

Surfs up, d00d:

[Scott!]

tom, you are a true legend my boy

[str1ker]

Cool packaging, but nothing compares to Mattel Elites.

[Bandalero]

I think I got blinded by all that farmer-tan white.

It's a pity you guys couldn't get Flair to pose with a few hunnies on the beach.

[PJ]

Thanks Tom. I needed a chuckle today to change my mood for a little while today. Great video.

[Scotty]

amazing video tom ahaha

[Casalex Isn't Funny]

Tom should be in the Hall of Fame, no wait, he should have his own Hall of Fame

[The Assassin]

shame it isn't RA but it's a cool figure

would be cool to see some classic crow-style figures of sting next. like an early crow sting with mid-length messy hair and basic makeup, and a starrcade 97 attire sting too with the full-shirt/shoulderpads top.

as far as i'm aware sting owns the rights to his character and those looks so it should be possible.

[RSCTom]

Jul 19, 2011 14:04:51 GMT -5 The Assassin said:

shame it isn't RA but it's a cool figure

would be cool to see some classic crow-style figures of sting next. like an early crow sting with mid-length messy hair and basic makeup, and a starrcade 97 attire sting too with the full-shirt/shoulderpads top.

as far as i'm aware sting owns the rights to his character and those looks so it should be possible.

Anything in reference to WCW unfortunately can't be done in any way, shape or form. That's why we got lucky with this one because it was taken from his match with Great Muta in New Japan. Bash at the Beach would've been out of the question.

[AlexWestCollects]

HMMMMM COULD SOMEONE BE IN SAN DIEGO? Maybe for Comic Con? LOL No way Long Island beaches look like that lol

[The Assassin]

Jul 19, 2011 14:23:13 GMT -5 RSCTom said:

Jul 19, 2011 14:04:51 GMT -5 The Assassin said:

shame it isn't RA but it's a cool figure

would be cool to see some classic crow-style figures of sting next. like an early crow sting with mid-length messy hair and basic makeup, and a starrcade 97 attire sting too with the full-shirt/shoulderpads top.

as far as i'm aware sting owns the rights to his character and those looks so it should be possible.

Anything in reference to WCW unfortunately can't be done in any way, shape or form. That's why we got lucky with this one because it was taken from his match with Great Muta in New Japan. Bash at the Beach would've been out of the question.

oh, that sucks. i thought since sting owns his gimmick it would be ok...

i find it very confusing what is ok and what isn't. i know that Jakks have a deal with NWA and NJPW, and i know that they can't infringe WWE copyrights. but WWE copyright doesn't cover everything that ever happened in WCW surely. there must be hundreds of WCW wrestlers who own their own gimmicks, names and (obviously) their look, and therefore could be made without a problem?

for example the upcoming Legends Eric Bischoff (DI9). Surely it would be OK for Jakks to make a WCW/nWo era Bischoff in jeans, t-shirt and leather jacket, with a younger looking headscan. Obviously they'd have to leave off the nWo logo. But surely WWE can't hold any copyright claims to a young looking bischoff figure in plain clothes without logos?

[RSCTom]

Jul 19, 2011 14:56:11 GMT -5 The Assassin said:

Jul 19, 2011 14:23:13 GMT -5 RSCTom said:

Anything in reference to WCW unfortunately can't be done in any way, shape or form. That's why we got lucky with this one because it was taken from his match with Great Muta in New Japan. Bash at the Beach would've been out of the question.

oh, that sucks. i thought since sting owns his gimmick it would be ok...

i find it very confusing what is ok and what isn't. i know that Jakks have a deal with NWA and NJPW, and i know that they can't infringe WWE copyrights. but WWE copyright doesn't cover everything that ever happened in WCW surely. there must be hundreds of WCW wrestlers who own their own gimmicks, names and (obviously) their look, and therefore could be made without a problem?

for example the upcoming Legends Eric Bischoff (DI9). Surely it would be OK for Jakks to make a WCW/nWo era Bischoff in jeans, t-shirt and leather jacket, with a younger looking headscan. Obviously they'd have to leave off the nWo logo. But surely WWE can't prevent a figure of a young bischoff with no logos being made?

Definitely get your confusion. I would assume, don't quote me on this, because obviously I don't work for Jakks, but that a Bischoff with a plain black shirt and no logos wouldn't violate any rules. It is confusing how it works but I'd say most worthwhile things WWE most likely owns the rights to. For example, I know off the top of my head (I have no idea why) that they never bought the rights to Three Count, so I'm assuming a three-pack could be made of Three Count. But then again, maybe the issue is if something is a direct reference to footage from the WWE library, it can't be made. I could see any of those being it.

[GrimKid]

Hahaha hilarious and I'm def gettin this fig

[The Assassin]

Jul 19, 2011 15:05:01 GMT -5 RSCTom said:

Jul 19, 2011 14:56:11 GMT -5 The Assassin said:

oh, that sucks. i thought since sting owns his gimmick it would be ok...

i find it very confusing what is ok and what isn't. i know that Jakks have a deal with NWA and NJPW, and i know that they can't infringe WWE copyrights. but WWE copyright doesn't cover everything that ever happened in WCW surely. there must be hundreds of WCW wrestlers who own their own gimmicks, names and (obviously) their look, and therefore could be made without a problem?

for example the upcoming Legends Eric Bischoff (DI9). Surely it would be OK for Jakks to make a WCW/nWo era Bischoff in jeans, t-shirt and leather jacket, with a younger looking headscan. Obviously they'd have to leave off the nWo logo. But surely WWE can't prevent a figure of a young bischoff with no logos being made?

Definitely get your confusion. I would assume, don't quote me on this, because obviously I don't work for Jakks, but that a Bischoff with a plain black shirt and no logos wouldn't violate any rules. It is confusing how it works but I'd say most worthwhile things WWE most likely owns the rights to. For example, I know off the top of my head (I have no idea why) that they never bought the rights to Three Count, so I'm assuming a three-pack could be made of Three Count. But then again, maybe the issue is if something is a direct reference to footage from the WWE library, it can't be made. I could see any of those being it.

well whether we understand the rules or not, the important thing is that Jakks legal team makes the effort to investigate which Legends can be made. I'm sure there are still a good number of popular and deserving stars from WCW/WWF/ECW who could be made with no trouble (eg anyone who owns their gimmick), and some that could be made with just some slight alterations too - such as cutting out a logo (eg leave the nWo logo off Eric Bischoff) or using an alternate ring name (eg an ECW-style Dudley Boyz marked as "Team 3D")

Ah right I didn't know that about three-count. A classic Three-Count pack would be awesome! I also happen to know Bryan Clark owns the rights to the KroniK gimmick (HINT HINT JAKKS!!). I'm sure theres many more examples too.

On a side note, I do really hope the upcoming legends Bischoff is a young WCW/nWo version. A classic Eric Bischoff was such a huge omission from the CS line, especially when you consider that he was signed to a WWE contract for several years (so wouldn't have even cost Jakks anything to make in CS). Since Jakks lost the WWE license it's great to see them still filling some gaps from CS (ie Raven, Terry Taylor, Sting) with their LOTR figures, I'll be so disappointed if the legends Bischoff isn't a young version.

[Hemme-TNA]

very awesome figure ! i like! i like ! i LIKE !

[RSCTom]

Jul 19, 2011 14:37:11 GMT -5 AlexWestCollects said:

HMMMMM COULD SOMEONE BE IN SAN DIEGO? Maybe for Comic Con? LOL No way Long Island beaches look like that lol

Haha oddly enough, that's Long Beach!

[Affliction: Elite Trader]

Sting looks awesome. glad i pre ordered it and can't wait for it to arrive.

[underdog4]

Jul 19, 2011 14:23:13 GMT -5 RSCTom said:

Jul 19, 2011 14:04:51 GMT -5 The Assassin said:

shame it isn't RA but it's a cool figure

would be cool to see some classic crow-style figures of sting next. like an early crow sting with mid-length messy hair and basic makeup, and a starrcade 97 attire sting too with the full-shirt/shoulderpads top.

as far as i'm aware sting owns the rights to his character and those looks so it should be possible.

Anything in reference to WCW unfortunately can't be done in any way, shape or form. That's why we got lucky with this one because it was taken from his match with Great Muta in New Japan. Bash at the Beach would've been out of the question.

Just curious - how did you do the Legends Sting which is clearly WCW. Or if it was technically NWA - doesn't WWE own that too.

I'm just really confused on how WWE owning the footage gives them any right to Sting's likeness from those days.

For example, if Sting did an autobiography he couldn't use any photos that WCW owned, since WWE stepped into their shoes - but he could use independent photos from PWI and other magazines. SO the use of his likeness from that era isn't something the WWE owns. THey simply own that footage. Period.

In this case, imagine Sting has photos of himself from that era that he owns. WHy couldn't he make a figure of himself based off of an image he owns? I don't see the intellectual property explanation that would prohibit this. If he had some logo that referenced WCW it'd be an issue. But Sting's look is not owned by WWE or else they could've sued TNA when Anderson dressed up as surfer Sting. The fact that the costume is or isn't from a WCW PPV is irrellevant.

I think it's more that no one wants to bother litigating with WWE, even if they're right - it would cost too much.

[Deleted]

yeah, the figure is great but did you see that sky?

holy crap you've made me want to go to the beach

[Hemme-TNA]

when in stock ? next week ?
thanks