hammer
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Post by hammer on Jul 18, 2011 22:40:06 GMT -5
well, at the very least... im intrigued for next week. how do they follow up the whole triple h/vince thing? how do they get cena involved in miz/rey? and obviously punk is not gone, though id tend to believe his return will be further down the road, rather than in the immediate future. i thought they did pretty well for themselves tonight. you couldnt very well have punk on the show tonight, after promoting for a full month that his contract ran out last night.
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Post by King of Kings on Jul 18, 2011 22:40:18 GMT -5
POST OF THE DECADE. BUT, I said this in another thread, when the tournament was announced I was pretty mad, and through the whole show I wasn't focused on the really good matches. Instead I was thinking about how meaningless they were about to make the WWE title. THEN HHH comes back in and although I would have scripted things different, he takes over and sends Vince packing.
So we had over 1 1/2 hours of matches, and an ending that wasn't predictable and keeps us guessing. No new champ, and no cash in, I'm going to bed happy with wrestling tonight. Like we've been saying, last night marked a new era and I fully believe this still. I agree with the second part wholly. I keep saying it's a new era, and that was before the HHH take over. That's what it feels like. I'm liking it. I wouldn't be surprised if Triple H had been in charge since June, because thats when it started picking up
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Jul 18, 2011 22:40:29 GMT -5
I'm surprised by the people complaining about the crying... People cry and that was a time where it certainly made perfect sense to.
As far as it being out of character, that just made it more real. Besides, it's not like we haven't see HHH cry on TV before. I'm not sure about with Vince, not like that anyway.
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radicalpunk
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Post by radicalpunk on Jul 18, 2011 22:42:21 GMT -5
I'm surprised by the people complaining about the crying... People cry and that was a time where it certainly made perfect sense to. As far as it being out of character, that just made it more real. Besides, it's not like we haven't see HHH cry on TV before. I'm not sure about with Vince, not like that anyway. yes, that's how i felt. you hardly get that anymore and lately they've been doing it constantly. sometimes wrestling needs realism.
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Post by johnnypoopypants on Jul 18, 2011 22:43:12 GMT -5
What the hell did I just watch?
What a fall from last night. The tournament was a bad idea since each match could only go about 5 minutes and none of them had any heat. The ending was extremely drawn out and awkward. Literally one of the worst Raws I've ever seen.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Jul 18, 2011 22:43:58 GMT -5
Well I'm happy
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Post by juicewinslow on Jul 18, 2011 22:44:25 GMT -5
This is a new era! This is what everyone wanted!
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Post by juicewinslow on Jul 18, 2011 22:46:01 GMT -5
What the hell did I just watch? What a fall from last night. The tournament was a bad idea since each match could only go about 5 minutes and none of them had any heat. The ending was extremely drawn out and awkward. Literally one of the worst Raws I've ever seen. Did you seriously think RAW was going to be better than Money In The Bank? That PPV was insanely incredible.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2011 22:46:29 GMT -5
I think their going to play it out, with Punk resigning because Vince isn't in charge anymore.
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Post by vivalaraza1331 on Jul 18, 2011 22:46:38 GMT -5
Anyone else think Vince saying during the final segment that he thinks everything out weeks and months before hand was a tip of the hat, sort of a "trust me" to the fans who may or may not have been happy with tonight's show? I may be thinking it through too much but, at least to this viewer, it seemed like one of those hidden messages everyone looks back on later and says, "oh, I get it now." It just seems like tonight's final segment was a small part of the bigger picture.
I may be giving the company to much credit but I don't think they are SO clueless as to completely screw this entire storyline up.
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Post by rustywio123 on Jul 18, 2011 22:46:51 GMT -5
This is a new era! This is what everyone wanted! be careful what you wish for, you just might get it, and not like what you see
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Post by No Brokeback on Jul 18, 2011 22:47:22 GMT -5
This is a new era! This is what everyone wanted! A new era is great, but how they went about it was shitty and we had two characters we rarely see involved in it. Why not build that up? I hate fantasy style posts, but . They could have made Punk the reason Vince was gone and Triple H came back and yada yada yada. Give the boost to Punk and make him even more important. Otherwise it just falls completely flat, which...in my opinion, it did.
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Post by slappy on Jul 18, 2011 22:47:45 GMT -5
What the hell did I just watch? What a fall from last night. The tournament was a bad idea since each match could only go about 5 minutes and none of them had any heat. The ending was extremely drawn out and awkward. Literally one of the worst Raws I've ever seen. I'm guessing you started watching Raw within the last week then since there have been crapRaws. 2009 for example or the Raw where every match ended with Taker and Kane beating everybody up. Yeah, that one sure beat this one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2011 22:47:46 GMT -5
I'm calling it, since it "isn't vince's company" anymore, next week he brings back Punk figuring "What can I lose?" HHH vs Punk for ownership of company at Wrestlemania
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Post by juicewinslow on Jul 18, 2011 22:48:27 GMT -5
This is a new era! This is what everyone wanted! be careful what you wish for, you just might get it, and not like what you see ok.
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Post by radicalpunk on Jul 18, 2011 22:49:19 GMT -5
i'm pretty sure punk wanted to leave the wwe, so regardless of how you wanted it to happen, it wouldn't.
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Post by Larry Arms on Jul 18, 2011 22:51:03 GMT -5
What I don't get is why everyone is upset that the Punk angle wasn't played out more, what else could they have done? Punk said he was leaving, and that's what we got: No Punk. To have Punk anywhere near Green Bay tonight or on Raw in any capacity would of voided all the work put into the Punk's program.
While the wrestling was ehhhh, it was a typical PPV post show, showcasing last nights competitors for those who didn't order. Expected as much and par for the course.
Really enjoyed the final segment. Yes the whole "patriarch is forced out of whatever" has been done before, there's a different feeling to it this time. Has Vince "lost" the company before? Yes. The difference is that Vince is now up there in years, and while yes it's all kayfabe, lots of good programs have a grain of truth to them.
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Post by Richikane on Jul 18, 2011 22:51:22 GMT -5
Just throwing it out there, since I liked the twist in the ending, but I would have had Triple H come out and say he called a board meeting and that he wasn't about to watch Vince make another bad decision, and be angry instead of sympathetic. I would have also had him say that they aren't crowning a new champ and that the title was gone and it was thanks to Vince.
Then have HHH bring CM Punk back after a few months to unify the WWE and World titles since having 2 titles has been pointless.
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Post by noir on Jul 18, 2011 22:52:26 GMT -5
Anyone else think Vince saying during the final segment that he thinks everything out weeks and months before hand was a tip of the hat, sort of a "trust me" to the fans who may or may not have been happy with tonight's show? I may be thinking it through too much but, at least to this viewer, it seemed like one of those hidden messages everyone looks back on later and says, "oh, I get it now." It just seems like tonight's final segment was a small part of the bigger picture. I may be giving the company to much credit but I don't think they are SO clueless as to completely screw this entire storyline up. I absolutely got that feeling. Seems exactly what Vince was alluding to. but then I remember the last time we heard about a "bigger picture" (with Nexus) and how that storyline fell flat on its face with no payoff. grr, I hope the WWE have something up their sleeve!
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Post by hammer on Jul 18, 2011 22:52:46 GMT -5
i really didnt see what was so wrong about tonight. having punk involved wouldve completely negated his wanting to leave with the belt, and his contract running out. the entire night had purpose with the tournament, because vince had to cover his ass after losing his championship the previous night... and hhh/vince left you with a cliff hanger, and an obvious storyline of a fight for control of the company, though how they go about it, is still open. not sure how anyone else wouldve booked the show, to make it better... aside from maybe a 2 hour classic between evan bourne and zach ryder.
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