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Post by rustywio123 on Jul 11, 2011 22:43:32 GMT -5
I would love to order this, and probably will. But if Cena wins, man i'll be disappointed. It'll be the biggest missed opportunity I can remember. Since not putting the world title on Barrett during the Nexus run.
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Post by duan on Jul 11, 2011 22:43:34 GMT -5
CM Punk and Kevin Steen have literally put wrestling back on the map.
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Post by Mr. Orange on Jul 11, 2011 22:45:50 GMT -5
CM Punk and Kevin Steen have literally put wrestling back on the map. And they're both badass heels. I think that shows just how significant heels are and how they should be treated/built as something other than a whiny coward. Punk has been THE MAN for a while, and Steen is rapidly becoming the hottest thing in ROH.
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Post by The Undertaker on Jul 11, 2011 22:46:37 GMT -5
CM Punk and Kevin Steen have literally put wrestling back on the map. You got that right, Duan. I haven't been excited about WWE like this in a long time. And with Davey atop ROH and Steen's current storyline, things are great for wrestling fans right now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2011 22:47:03 GMT -5
That was just amazing. I want to order this PPV so bad and I havent felt like this since Wrestlemania 26, and that was only because of Shawns retirment. Punk is seriously the best wrestler AND entertainer in the WWE. Me must have gotten that contract signed for him to be focused on this much lately.
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Jul 11, 2011 22:47:28 GMT -5
If Punk wins the WWE Championship and defends it elsewhere, he'll do so as a WWE-contracted Wrestler. Not exactly. Just as "hush hush" as Punk already re-signing is considered, the same could be with McMahon working out a deal with SMALL companies like ROH, NJPW, EVOLVE, PWG, etc. It's not like McMahon doesn't pick these guys up for his "future stars", anyway. Easily could work out a deal with those companies for ANYTHING he wants. - Triple S WWE's not letting their top Championship get off Television with SummerSlam in four weeks, I'd think. If Punk defends the Title in other companies, the Matches will happen, but it will be because he's signed with WWE and is working in an angle that is possible because WWE is working with other promotions so they can feature their talent on the Indie company's show.
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Post by leafs911 on Jul 11, 2011 22:51:27 GMT -5
i cant wait for the PPV . . . . RAW was great . . . . . CM Punk is the best !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2011 22:53:19 GMT -5
That's your opinion, not fact. A very valid and likely opinion, too. Just discussing the possibilities here, nothing more. I especially like the idea that mentioned of McMahon screwing Cena, then working up a modern day McMahon/Austin with himself and Cena. If you guys are kinda bored and wanna hear others' thoughts on this Punk angle (former WWE creative writers), listen to these podcasts: iwantwrestling.com/podcasts/Scroll to the "Formerly Creative" section and listen to both Episode #13 and #14. - Triple S
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Post by rustywio123 on Jul 11, 2011 22:53:43 GMT -5
Not exactly. Just as "hush hush" as Punk already re-signing is considered, the same could be with McMahon working out a deal with SMALL companies like ROH, NJPW, EVOLVE, PWG, etc. It's not like McMahon doesn't pick these guys up for his "future stars", anyway. Easily could work out a deal with those companies for ANYTHING he wants. - Triple S WWE's not letting their top Championship get off Television with SummerSlam in four weeks, I'd think. If Punk defends the Title in other companies, the Matches will happen, but it will be because he's signed with WWE and is working in an angle that is possible because WWE is working with other promotions so they can feature their talent on the Indie company's show. I honestly think that Punk is staying in the WWE. However I REALLY hope he goes to TNA.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2011 22:57:29 GMT -5
I agree, Cena shouldn't win anyways, because he's injured in more than one place, He needs to heal, and then come back as a heel.
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Post by J12 on Jul 11, 2011 23:00:09 GMT -5
WWE's not letting their top Championship get off Television with SummerSlam in four weeks, I'd think. If Punk defends the Title in other companies, the Matches will happen, but it will be because he's signed with WWE and is working in an angle that is possible because WWE is working with other promotions so they can feature their talent on the Indie company's show. I honestly think that Punk is staying in the WWE. However I REALLY hope he goes to TNA. Why in the world would anyone wish that on the hottest commodity in the business? TNA proves, on a weekly basis, that they haven't a clue what they're doing with their talent.
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Post by juicewinslow on Jul 11, 2011 23:02:03 GMT -5
@zack Ryder: "Vince McMahon knows I exist"
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Post by BCizzle on Jul 11, 2011 23:02:56 GMT -5
I would love to order this, and probably will. But if Cena wins, man i'll be disappointed. It'll be the biggest missed opportunity I can remember. Since not putting the world title on Barrett during the Nexus run. And not turning Cena heel as well as having him emasculate the entire group. But other than that....
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Post by No Brokeback on Jul 11, 2011 23:03:15 GMT -5
I honestly think that Punk is staying in the WWE. However I REALLY hope he goes to TNA. Why in the world would anyone wish that on the hottest commodity in the business? TNA proves, on a weekly basis, that they haven't a clue what they're doing with their talent. Cause all those Nexus stars from last year are flourishing cause WWE doesn't even have a main heel, and haven't had one in years. Cause WWE doesn't know where to go without Cena and haven't made even a face slightly as popular as him. Cause the Diva are really interesting...
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Post by BV on Jul 11, 2011 23:08:03 GMT -5
Why in the world would anyone wish that on the hottest commodity in the business? TNA proves, on a weekly basis, that they haven't a clue what they're doing with their talent. Cause all those Nexus stars from last year are flourishing cause WWE doesn't even have a main heel, and haven't had one in years. Cause WWE doesn't know where to go without Cena and haven't made even a face slightly as popular as him. Cause the Diva are really interesting... Even despite all of this, TNA is still years behind the WWE in terms of being on their level.
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Jul 11, 2011 23:08:15 GMT -5
Why in the world would anyone wish that on the hottest commodity in the business? TNA proves, on a weekly basis, that they haven't a clue what they're doing with their talent. Cause all those Nexus stars from last year are flourishing cause WWE doesn't even have a main heel, and haven't had one in years. Cause WWE doesn't know where to go without Cena and haven't made even a face slightly as popular as him. Cause the Diva are really interesting... No one said WWE is a creative machine, but TNA isn't exactly showing them how it's done, either. Look at Jeff Hardy. He was the hottest thing in Wrestling, was off TV, returned in primetime on a Monday night to TNA, and they got maybe one-tenth of a rating point out of him. If WWE has done this much right with Punk, I'm willing to bet whatever they do to continue/end it would be better than him going to TNA, turning heel every other week and losing to Sting in a World Title Match on Cable Television.
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Post by J12 on Jul 11, 2011 23:08:20 GMT -5
Why in the world would anyone wish that on the hottest commodity in the business? TNA proves, on a weekly basis, that they haven't a clue what they're doing with their talent. Cause all those Nexus stars from last year are flourishing cause WWE doesn't even have a main heel, and haven't had one in years. Cause WWE doesn't know where to go without Cena and haven't made even a face slightly as popular as him. Cause the Diva are really interesting... I never once said that WWE was perfect, nor that they didn't exhibit many of the flaws that TNA does. I will still contend, though, that TNA is the most inaccessible wrestling promotion I have ever seen. Try missing two weeks of Impact, coming back to it and having the slightest idea whats going on. The entire make up of that company changes on the drop of the dime. No one is ever sure they're coming or going, it's a disaster. At least WWE is giving us some consistency as of late, and an angle we can be damn proud to watch.
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Post by jm556 on Jul 11, 2011 23:09:06 GMT -5
That was a bad @$$ ending
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Post by No Brokeback on Jul 11, 2011 23:15:09 GMT -5
Cause all those Nexus stars from last year are flourishing cause WWE doesn't even have a main heel, and haven't had one in years. Cause WWE doesn't know where to go without Cena and haven't made even a face slightly as popular as him. Cause the Diva are really interesting... I never once said that WWE was perfect, nor that they didn't exhibit many of the flaws that TNA does. I will still contend, though, that TNA is the most inaccessible wrestling promotion I have ever seen. Try missing two weeks of Impact, coming back to it and having the slightest idea whats going on. The entire make up of that company changes on the drop of the dime. No one is ever sure they're coming or going, it's a disaster. At least WWE is giving us some consistency as of late, and an angle we can be damn proud to watch. Do you know why you can miss Raw and still know what's going on? Because usually, nothing happens. Tonight was a bit different, they seem to have some direction, but usually they rely on two small mic time segments to carry over the next Raw, which is just ridiculous. If you're happy with nothing really ever happening, that's great for you. TNA isn't perfect, and they're not WWE. They're always trying to move forward, but that shouldn't even be a TNA/WWE comparison. Something should always be happening. Which is what happens in Soap Opera's, you always want to know what goes on next week. it always closes with a cliff hanger or something happening to make you stay tuned and wanting to watch. You don't want to miss an episode because you'll miss something if you don't stay tuned. Not Raw..I could not watch it for weeks and know that John Cena is still the champion and he's probably fighting a new guy trying out a new gimmick to see if they can build a star with him. Ugh.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2011 23:22:10 GMT -5
I never once said that WWE was perfect, nor that they didn't exhibit many of the flaws that TNA does. I will still contend, though, that TNA is the most inaccessible wrestling promotion I have ever seen. Try missing two weeks of Impact, coming back to it and having the slightest idea whats going on. The entire make up of that company changes on the drop of the dime. No one is ever sure they're coming or going, it's a disaster. At least WWE is giving us some consistency as of late, and an angle we can be damn proud to watch. Do you know why you can miss Raw and still know what's going on? Because usually, nothing happens. Tonight was a bit different, they seem to have some direction, but usually they rely on two small mic time segments to carry over the next Raw, which is just ridiculous. If you're happy with nothing really ever happening, that's great for you. TNA isn't perfect, and they're not WWE. They're always trying to move forward, but that shouldn't even be a TNA/WWE comparison. Something should always be happening. Which is what happens in Soap Opera's, you always want to know what goes on next week. it always closes with a cliff hanger or something happening to make you stay tuned and wanting to watch. You don't want to miss an episode because you'll miss something if you don't stay tuned. Not Raw..I could not watch it for weeks and know that John Cena is still the champion and he's probably fighting a new guy trying out a new gimmick to see if they can build a star with him. Ugh. God I ing wish WF had a block/ignore button so I wouldn't have to see your stupid whiny ass rants.
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