WF and spam

[dmallett4]

So, i am still here at the minute, and i am still on spam, and i will not be leaving. So, i was depressed yesterday, and quite frankly fed up with pic fedding. I nearly posted quitting BAoW because of whats happening. Im not gonna favour any feds here, i will be apart of both WF and spam. Now i posted on spam this morning that BAoW will be exclusively there, and i have changed my mind. BAoW will be posted on WF. So, After all this is pic fedding. PIC FEDDING thats all this is. Just displaying are talents in a form of a fed. This is only meant to be a bit of fun, just a hobby, thats all, nothing more, why start a massive gang war about all this. Now, like Deskjet once said, people wont just do nothing if there or there fed is bashed, its not natural, and people should respond, but there really is no need for bashing afterall. So, we need to call an end to all this here, everyone needs to end this stupid think, Mikey needs to come back , Everyone needs to come back, ICW said we both like wrestling, we both like pic feds. The things we love, makes us enemies! So, i am calling it here, i may not be perfect, people on WF may not be perfect, people on spam may not be perfect, but i sure will help.

So, call an end to this, have inter forum peace, we dont have to like each other, just everyone should respect the person, and what the person does.

[cgj]

Like I said, having wars about forums that associate themselves with plastic men is ridiculous.

Good to see you have come back. At times, I feel like quitting HLW. I am really pissed at the amount of replies inVasion got. It didn't even fill up 1 page of replies. (Though, the quality of the replies was excellent).

You just have to remember, you are doing this as a hobby becuase you enjoy it.

So yeah, good to have you back.

Now we need to get to work on Mikey.

[deskjet]

I like this thread Mallet and I respect you putting this up here and think it's much needed given the recent events.

All I'm gonna say right now is that it takes a bigger person to walk away/ignore a fight then to get involved in it. I think we all need to get that mindset. People are gonna dog you, say stuff about you, etc. But you dont have to give into it. And as I've said before, come to me or another mod, or admin and we'll deal with it the proper way. I believe everyone should be afforded the right to speak and say what's on their minds but there's a way to do it and just because your sitting anonymously behind a keyboard, doesn't give yout the right to say whatever you want...words hurt and we all need to take that into consideration.

Please feel free to vent here about the situation without calling names please. thanks

[deskjet]

cgj13 said:

Lie I said, having wars about forums that associate themselves with plastic men is ridiculous.

Good to see you have come back. At times, I feel like quitting HLW. I am really pissed at the amount of replies inVasion got. It didn't even fill up 1 page of replies. (Though, the quality of the replies was excellent).

You just have to remember, you are doing this as a hobby becuase you enjoy it.

You said it right there. and I know I havent replied much but its feds like your that will carry this board and other boards through, and I applaude you for your hard work...you certanly put on some stellar shows

So yeah, good to have you back.

Now we need to get to work on Mikey.

[cgj]

deskjet said:

cgj13 said:

Lie I said, having wars about forums that associate themselves with plastic men is ridiculous.

Good to see you have come back. At times, I feel like quitting HLW. I am really pissed at the amount of replies inVasion got. It didn't even fill up 1 page of replies. (Though, the quality of the replies was excellent).

You just have to remember, you are doing this as a hobby becuase you enjoy it.

You said it right there. and I know I havent replied much but its feds like your that will carry this board and other boards through, and I applaude you for your hard work...you certanly put on some stellar shows

So yeah, good to have you back.

Now we need to get to work on Mikey.

Heh, thank you.

[Deleted]

As I said Mallett, Not only did I say this to you yesterday ( ) But I totally agree. I hate this, Its effecting the talented Picfeds and it needs to be ended.

[wordlifekiller]

dmallett4 said:

So, i am still here at the minute, and i am still on spam, and i will not be leaving. So, i was depressed yesterday, and quite frankly fed up with pic fedding. I nearly posted quitting BAoW because of whats happening. Im not gonna favour any feds here, i will be apart of both WF and spam. Now i posted on spam this morning that BAoW will be exclusively there, and i have changed my mind. BAoW will be posted on WF. So, After all this is pic fedding. PIC FEDDING thats all this is. Just displaying are talents in a form of a fed. This is only meant to be a bit of fun, just a hobby, thats all, nothing more, why start a massive gang war about all this. Now, like Deskjet once said, people wont just do nothing if there or there fed is bashed, its not natural, and people should respond, but there really is no need for bashing afterall. So, we need to call an end to all this here, everyone needs to end this stupid think, Mikey needs to come back , Everyone needs to come back, ICW said we both like wrestling, we both like pic feds. The things we love, makes us enemies! So, i am calling it here, i may not be perfect, people on WF may not be perfect, people on spam may not be perfect, but i sure will help.

So, call an end to this, have inter forum peace, we dont have to like each other, just everyone should respect the person, and what the person does.

I respect you for posting this Mallet..

Yes,i am a admin at "the forum" and i have watched this war now for the last two months or so when it went on.I do agree with Mallet,it's your hobby,i understand some of you may dislike some members and thats perfectly fine.You all enjoy doing picture fedding and that should bring you guys together no matter what.This whole war in my mind was immature and never should of happened in the first place.I am as guilty as everyone dureing the fights and what not.

If my members wont aplogize for there part in the whole war,then i will aplogize for them.I'm sorry for all this bull crapthat happened over the months.It may never happened,but i wouldnt mind seeing WF and "us" pic fed boards to actually get along.Its a long shot but maybe one day it may happen

Mallet and myself didnt get along at the beginning,and we may not still(i think you imed me the other night when i was away,not sure.I wasnt ignoring you) but i do respect him for makeing this thread and i 100% agree with him.

[charlie]

I have Total Respect For This

[Deleted]

Well i sorta pic fed so if you don't mind i would like to voice my opinion.....Okay so as some know i have been banned or deleted from spam, for various reasons, were they immature? Yes very much so, do i regret doing them? Yes i do to a extent. So onto the whole "war" that is going on i frankly think it is stupid, we fight over the smallest thing, and i really don't like the idea of a "exclusive" pic fed. It just keeps less people from seeing your fed and really isn't that was pic fedding is all about? the love of wrestling of and showing of your talents of your pic fed? So in all honesty i would love to see this whole "war" come to a end and have everyone able to post their shows on both sites and not be bashed or criticized for it. So yeah thats what i have to say about this all...

[ICW]

Funny because R.A.W posted something on spam and I want to post it here, take things point by point.

Hey did anyone else see what ICW and friends are posting about me in their pic fed chat thread at WF? I guess they think i cant see what their writing about me, but they should know better than that, i always have my ways MWUHAHAHAHA whoops got a lil carried away

I posted everything with the full logic that you would be able to read this or at the very least have someone tell you this.

Anyways i think its absolutly hilarious that they are convinced this was some sort of master plan by me to get members to defect to spam, while i appreciate that they think i could pull something like that off, nothing could be further from the truth, bring on all the conspiracy theories you want but for once what you saw you got.

If that is true, why did your brag about it on spam? You were practally giddy over the fact that you "had like 30 members on WF PM you the link from spam." You even said that YOU would take spam to the top.

I posted Winter Warfare beleive it or not just to show WF our joint pic fed ppv and look what happened, they can use the lame excuse of "advertising" but fact is i never once used anything but the term spam i didnt use the full name and the link i did post was to my Angelfire NOT to spam so that was clearly just a cop out.

Your advertising had to do with you Private Messaging spam links to WF members.

Then it got deleted and i got sick and tired of the oppression and the outright tyranny of WF and it goes on in every board not just pic feds but pic fedding is what i do so i used what i do and i told my fans at WF that i was tired of it and that i was spam exclusive NOT to lure people away but to let my fans know where they could find me, thats all.

It got deleted because it was a fight wating to happen. Your excuse of "oh, I'm letting my fans know where to find me" is a great excuse and you're smart to use it.

And via pm giving the link was to show people where to find my shows because i respect and appreciate all the fans of my work and thats it.

HAHAHAHAHA! Respect your fans? Dude that is so much bull **** and you know it.

There was no master plan and frankly i think ICW and others have been watching too many Oliver Stone movies to be honest.

So Fatal didn't say he was trying to "get control" of WF? Hmm I wonder why the thread he posted that on was deleted? Any ideas?

There is no war, i never wanted a war i am just sick of the way things are done at WF and love the fact that they arent like that at spam and i greatly appreciate everyone that has had the foresight to see that and come over to a place where pic fedding can be fun again instead of like being at WF where you have to worry about getting bashed to hell for everything and worry about getting deleted and/or banned over nothing, because at the end of the day its a forum about toys simple as that, the power that Jack and the other admins think they have, well im sorry to say but in the real world it doesnt exist.

It's funny you say you don't want a war, yet your avi on spam sure seems that you want a war, or at least encourage it.

So i love the fact that they are on a massive power trip because they control a forum of toys. Whereas here (spam) you can enjoy yourself without power trips.

I hear you banned some WF members for speaking out? Like ya know... myself.

And while i can read what is posted about me on WF i cant post there myself (another example of the power tripping Admins) so would someone be kind enough to post this in their pic fed chat for me? Because they can talk all they want and i cant even defend myself.

Anything for you, sunshine

[wordlifekiller]

goalie10813 said:

Well i sorta pic fed so if you don't mind i would like to voice my opinion.....Okay so as some know i have been banned or deleted from spam, for various reasons, were they immature? Yes very much so, do i regret doing them? Yes i do to a extent. So onto the whole "war" that is going on i frankly think it is stupid, we fight over the smallest thing, and i really don't like the idea of a "exclusive" pic fed. It just keeps less people from seeing your fed and really isn't that was pic fedding is all about? the love of wrestling of and showing of your talents of your pic fed? So in all honesty i would love to see this whole "war" come to a end and have everyone able to post their shows on both sites and not be bashed or criticized for it. So yeah thats what i have to say about this all...

You were banned not due to the pic fed wars between the forums.You were banned due to your attitude twards the members that did poses.Instead of being helpful,you were rude about it.No offense

[Edgeman05]

As admin on spam i also agree that this war should end. I havent been watching it closely but i did sense bad blood between members. I think we should all be able to post are pic feds on both forums.

[Deleted]

wordlifekiller said:

goalie10813 said:

Well i sorta pic fed so if you don't mind i would like to voice my opinion.....Okay so as some know i have been banned or deleted from spam, for various reasons, were they immature? Yes very much so, do i regret doing them? Yes i do to a extent. So onto the whole "war" that is going on i frankly think it is stupid, we fight over the smallest thing, and i really don't like the idea of a "exclusive" pic fed. It just keeps less people from seeing your fed and really isn't that was pic fedding is all about? the love of wrestling of and showing of your talents of your pic fed? So in all honesty i would love to see this whole "war" come to a end and have everyone able to post their shows on both sites and not be bashed or criticized for it. So yeah thats what i have to say about this all...

You were banned not due to the pic fed wars between the forums.You were banned due to your attitude twards the members that did poses.Instead of being helpful,you were rude about it.No offense

I didn't say i got banned for anything to do with the pic fed board, I said i got banned for doing immature and stupid stuff. If you would have took the time to read my post you would have known that....

[wordlifekiller]

goalie10813 said:

wordlifekiller said:

You were banned not due to the pic fed wars between the forums.You were banned due to your attitude twards the members that did poses.Instead of being helpful,you were rude about it.No offense

I didn't say i got banned for anything to do with the pic fed board, I said i got banned for doing immature and stupid stuff. If you would have took the time to read my post you would have known that....

You screwed yourself at spam,only one person is to blame and thats you.We werent immature,you were.Stateing that peoples poses sucked and makeing fun of them wasn't the best thing you could really do.I understand some members couldnt pose,but give them advice to better themselfs.Seriously Goalie,you have been givin more then one chance at spam and your imaturity is what got you banned.You were warned numerious times aswell before you got banned.

Im not here to cause any fights,i wanna get to the bottom of this whole pic fed war bull so both forums can actually go back to pic fedding.

[Deleted]

wordlifekiller said:

goalie10813 said:

I didn't say i got banned for anything to do with the pic fed board, I said i got banned for doing immature and stupid stuff. If you would have took the time to read my post you would have known that....

You screwed yourself at spam,only one person is to blame and thats you.We werent immature,you were.Stateing that peoples poses sucked and makeing fun of them wasn't the best thing you could really do.I understand some members couldnt pose,but give them advice to better themselfs.Seriously Goalie,you have been givin more then one chance at spam and your imaturity is what got you banned.You were warned numerious times aswell before you got banned.

I'm not here to cause any fights,i wanna get to the bottom of this whole pic fed war bull so both forums can actually go back to pic feeding.

Do you have a learning disability of sorts, i am not trying to be rude but between your spelling and the way you understand my posts it is making me wonder. I never you you screwed me or it was your fault i got banned I said that I was immature not you.

[ICW]

Miz, you seem like a man who understands logic. Can you honestly believe that R.A.W posting a spam PPV on WF was an act of peace? Can you honestly tell me that he didn't brag about how many members from WF were joining spam?

[deskjet]

To Butterfly Effect 2 and Miz, as the pic fed mod I'd like to personally say that you guys coming over here and openly being willing to apologize and want to put the whole situation in the past shows great class and gets mad respect from me.

ICW...I appreciate you going to bat for WF but really whatever R.A.W. has to say, that's on him...I think most of us just want it done and over with.

What I hope everyone can take from this is that rebellion against the system can be good if it brings about change but can be bad if it brings harm. I think we've seen by a few peoples' rebellious actions that harm could be done. there's always away to get your point across without being mean and nasty about it and most of the time it's more effective. I've seen too mcuh bashing and slandring and talking bad about people that it makes me sick.

This should never have gotten outta hand, It's something R.A.W. and I coulda worked out but for some reason everyone allowed their bitterness and rage to get the best of them and so a bandwagon was formed and here we are. Bottom line is, there shouldnt be sides...It should be great to have somewhere else to post without feeling like your gonna get trashed all the time. And yea, some people do do theat but we DON't Have to give in to it and let it bother us. You go to the mods or admins and let them work it out, in which hoepfully they'll be fair in working stuff out as well.

Again, as I've said amillion times before, It comes to us. you guys know what I and the admins expect on here and if you cant abide by it then you have no one to blame but yourself for the consequences. I just think alot of people just need to grow up a little bit and realize this is for fun, to help each other, to build communtiy...That's what I want and in the end I think that's waht everyone wants. Now if you want to be a trouble maker then that's different, but we as a community on WF and spam should make sure that those individuals remain the minority.

I hope that when I step down....YOU guys STEP UP!

[deskjet]

goalie10813 said:

wordlifekiller said:

You screwed yourself at spam,only one person is to blame and thats you.We werent immature,you were.Stateing that peoples poses sucked and makeing fun of them wasn't the best thing you could really do.I understand some members couldnt pose,but give them advice to better themselfs.Seriously Goalie,you have been givin more then one chance at spam and your imaturity is what got you banned.You were warned numerious times aswell before you got banned.

I'm not here to cause any fights,i wanna get to the bottom of this whole pic fed war bull so both forums can actually go back to pic feeding.

Do you have a learning disability of sorts, i am not trying to be rude but between your spelling and the way you understand my posts it is making me wonder. I never you you screwed me or it was your fault i got banned I said that I was immature not you.

Ok. It's done. Is it possible to forgive and move on here? What can be learned and now how can we move ahead?

[Deleted]

I was actually trying to appoligize with that post, Miz however took it the wrong way, like i said i want this whole thing to be over with.

[deskjet]

yankees4life said:

Miz, you seem like a man who understands logic. Can you honestly believe that R.A.W posting a spam PPV on WF was an act of peace? Can you honestly tell me that he didn't brag about how many members from WF were joining spam?

I dont know what R.A.W.'s motives were. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and say it was a good faith gesture on his part, however after some reflection time and some things brought to my attention by some other members, I think it coulda been handled differently:

#1) If this was indeed about making peace then it shoulda been told to people by RAW to take any derogatory statement/pics out of their matches at Winter Warfare.

#2) given the recent tension with WF and spam, it woulda been the courteous thing to do to just ask myself or some of the other members if it'd be ok to post their "big" show over here especially with OUR "big" show less than a week away. Looking back it coulda potentially stolen some of Figamania's thunder. Now that's not to say that ours is better, but it is showcased at WF and it should be made to be a special event not a secondary one.

#3) I was in process of working something out and it woulda possibly resulted in helping out both shows...but due to impatience...that never happened

Hopefully we can learn something from this