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Post by PVA on Feb 4, 2011 19:24:12 GMT -5
The Road Warriors "blew up" in the ring so did Davy Boy Smith does the IWC rag on them like they rag on Warrior??? People just look for reasons to hate on the guy and people saying Warrior was a steroid abuser Savage took steroids as well as did Flair. Yes, Davey 'roided, but he was also far more athletic than Warrior. Bulldog put on a better performance at SummerSlam '92 than Warrior ever did in his entire career. You mean the match that Bret Hart said Davey Boy "blew up" and forgot everything they were suppose to do minutes after the match and had to carry his ass. Remember the spot where Davey Boy almost decapitated bret hard? Warrior wasn't a great technical wrestler by any means, but he always stepped up and put on a decent if not above average match when it counted. Warrior definitely gets crapped on a lot more then most guys by the IWC. I guess it's because everybody's favorite wrestler dogs the warrior and because I love ric flair or bret hart and they say warrior sucked then he must of never of had a good match.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2011 22:30:00 GMT -5
I don't know why, nobody ever mentions Randy Savage as "Greatest Wrestler of All Time"? You could really make a strong argument that he was. I know he didn't wrestle as long as Flair and didn't have the support of the WWE as long as HBK did. I never hear his name in the conversation. That's a mistake imo.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Feb 9, 2011 1:16:26 GMT -5
Yes, Davey 'roided, but he was also far more athletic than Warrior. Bulldog put on a better performance at SummerSlam '92 than Warrior ever did in his entire career. You mean the match that Bret Hart said Davey Boy "blew up" and forgot everything they were suppose to do minutes after the match and had to carry his ass. Remember the spot where Davey Boy almost decapitated bret hard? Warrior wasn't a great technical wrestler by any means, but he always stepped up and put on a decent if not above average match when it counted. Warrior definitely gets crapped on a lot more then most guys by the IWC. I guess it's because everybody's favorite wrestler dogs the warrior and because I love ric flair or bret hart and they say warrior sucked then he must of never of had a good match. DBS could work harder for longer than Warrior could on his best day. Davey was tired at the end of his SS '92 match but he had a reason to be so given the output. As for Warrior, he rarely "stepped up" at all. I can only think of 4 decent-to-good matches he had in all of his WWF runs. Usually, he was just unfettered energy that resulted in poor execution. The guy had a great body but he was not a natural athlete. His timing and dexterity were very poor. |
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Post by ACON on Feb 9, 2011 23:52:00 GMT -5
Macho Man definitely wins this one. By far the better wrestler.
Both of there promo's always drew me in and were very entertaining.
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Post by DMO™ on Feb 10, 2011 1:09:00 GMT -5
OOOOOOOOOOOOOH YEAAAAH
THE MACHO MAAAN DIIIG IT!
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Post by hulkhogancollector on Feb 10, 2011 16:06:40 GMT -5
Yes, Davey 'roided, but he was also far more athletic than Warrior. Bulldog put on a better performance at SummerSlam '92 than Warrior ever did in his entire career. You mean the match that Bret Hart said Davey Boy "blew up" and forgot everything they were suppose to do minutes after the match and had to carry his ass. Remember the spot where Davey Boy almost decapitated bret hard? Warrior wasn't a great technical wrestler by any means, but he always stepped up and put on a decent if not above average match when it counted. Warrior definitely gets crapped on a lot more then most guys by the IWC. I guess it's because everybody's favorite wrestler dogs the warrior and because I love ric flair or bret hart and they say warrior sucked then he must of never of had a good match. You are spot on and yes people bandwagon for years the IWC hated on Bob Backland mainly because Meltzer didnt like him, Backland turns heel in the mid 90s all the sudden Meltzer liked Backland and the IWC lemmings follow suit it must suck not being able to think for one's self |
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Post by The Silent Flute (joepetree) on Feb 10, 2011 16:08:06 GMT -5
I gotta Go With Macho Man no offense or anything to Warrior i just like Macho Better In The Ring
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Feb 11, 2011 2:34:50 GMT -5
You mean the match that Bret Hart said Davey Boy "blew up" and forgot everything they were suppose to do minutes after the match and had to carry his ass. Remember the spot where Davey Boy almost decapitated bret hard? Warrior wasn't a great technical wrestler by any means, but he always stepped up and put on a decent if not above average match when it counted. Warrior definitely gets crapped on a lot more then most guys by the IWC. I guess it's because everybody's favorite wrestler dogs the warrior and because I love ric flair or bret hart and they say warrior sucked then he must of never of had a good match. Well you can count this old-school IWC member as a life-long Backlund hater. I strongly disliked him as a babyface and I absolutely loathed him as a heel. His mispronouncing/misusing words in promos made me want to jam a screwdriver in my ear. Do you remember that segment where Backlund interviewed the Iron Sheik in the ring? JR put it perfectly," This interview needs to be closed captioned." |
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Post by PVA on Feb 12, 2011 21:10:16 GMT -5
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As for Warrior, he rarely "stepped up" at all. I can only think of 4 decent-to-good matches he had in all of his WWF runs. Usually, he was just unfettered energy that resulted in poor execution. The guy had a great body but he was not a natural athlete. His timing and dexterity were very poor.[/quote]
I agree with your last sentence.
"unfettered energy that resulted in poor execution." I would argue it wasn't poor execution because the intended result was what we got. Warrior's gimmick wasn't suppose to be a mat technician.
We can agree the following were above average matches and likely his best 4?
SummerSlam 1989 vs Rude
Wrestlemania VI vs Hogan
Wrestlemania VII vs Savage
SummerSlam 1992 vs Savage
Decent...
Wrestlemania V vs Rude (SNME and SS 90), and his matches with Slaughter, Dibiase, and Perfect (1990). As well as many multi man matches.
It's what you define as "decent." Remember, the work rate and style in that era is different from today's.
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Post by hulkhogancollector on Feb 15, 2011 3:22:29 GMT -5
You are spot on and yes people bandwagon for years the IWC hated on Bob Backland mainly because Meltzer didnt like him, Backland turns heel in the mid 90s all the sudden Meltzer liked Backland and the IWC lemmings follow suit it must suck not being able to think for one's self Well you can count this old-school IWC member as a life-long Backlund hater. I strongly disliked him as a babyface and I absolutely loathed him as a heel. His mispronouncing/misusing words in promos made me want to jam a screwdriver in my ear. Do you remember that segment where Backlund interviewed the Iron Sheik in the ring? JR put it perfectly," This interview needs to be closed captioned."Backland as a face was bland no doubt but as a heel he was hilarious with that whole crazy cross face chicken wing gimmick I'm just saying the IWC gets all worked up over workrate and when it came to that very few were as good as Backland in the ring |
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Feb 16, 2011 0:56:25 GMT -5
>>> SummerSlam 1989 vs Rude Wrestlemania VI vs Hogan Wrestlemania VII vs Savage SummerSlam 1992 vs Savage[/b]Decent... Those were the exact ones of which I thinking. |
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Feb 16, 2011 1:06:01 GMT -5
Well you can count this old-school IWC member as a life-long Backlund hater. I strongly disliked him as a babyface and I absolutely loathed him as a heel. His mispronouncing/misusing words in promos made me want to jam a screwdriver in my ear. Do you remember that segment where Backlund interviewed the Iron Sheik in the ring? JR put it perfectly," This interview needs to be closed captioned."Backland as a face was bland no doubt but as a heel he was hilarious with that whole crazy cross face chicken wing gimmick I'm just saying the IWC gets all worked up over workrate and when it came to that very few were as good as Backland in the ringHis psycho heel persona was embarrasing, not funny. Kurt Angle did the heartless,brutal technician persona well in '06. Backlund came off like Eugene. Also, Backlund's workrate is highly overrated. Like so many other NCAA wrestlers who "went pro", Backlund essentially tried to fake a freestyle match each time with extended rest holds. He had the *occasional* decent hold exchange but the guy should have NEVER been anything but a curtain jerker. |
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Post by hulkhogancollector on Feb 21, 2011 1:22:03 GMT -5
Backland as a face was bland no doubt but as a heel he was hilarious with that whole crazy cross face chicken wing gimmick I'm just saying the IWC gets all worked up over workrate and when it came to that very few were as good as Backland in the ringHis psycho heel persona was embarrasing, not funny. Kurt Angle did the heartless,brutal technician persona well in '06. Backlund came off like Eugene. Also, Backlund's workrate is highly overrated. Like so many other NCAA wrestlers who "went pro", Backlund essentially tried to fake a freestyle match each time with extended rest holds. He had the *occasional* decent hold exchange but the guy should have NEVER been anything but a curtain jerker. You got to be kidding is there anyone you do like? Lets see Hogan cant work, Warrior cant work, Backland cant work? I guess they need to stab people with forks to be considered a "good" worker in your esteemed opinion ;D |
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Post by Himmy! on Feb 21, 2011 6:42:33 GMT -5
Macho Man definitely.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Feb 21, 2011 23:23:51 GMT -5
His psycho heel persona was embarrasing, not funny. Kurt Angle did the heartless,brutal technician persona well in '06. Backlund came off like Eugene. Also, Backlund's workrate is highly overrated. Like so many other NCAA wrestlers who "went pro", Backlund essentially tried to fake a freestyle match each time with extended rest holds. He had the *occasional* decent hold exchange but the guy should have NEVER been anything but a curtain jerker. You got to be kidding is there anyone you do like? Lets see Hogan cant work, Warrior cant work, Backland cant work? I guess they need to stab people with forks to be considered a "good" worker in your esteemed opinion ;D Backlund certainly could have used something to offset his restholdmania matches. Maybe if his bowtie released poison gas or something he would have been more interesting?  |
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Post by motleyspoisongun on Feb 27, 2011 15:47:22 GMT -5
macho man
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Post by zombiesnake on Mar 1, 2011 14:41:42 GMT -5
Savage, easily. Savage had a longer much more lucrative career. He could have great matches with anyone you put against him. Both were insane on the mic, but Savage was controlled insanity and could tell a story that kept you captivated and entertained, and transitioned well to color commentary. Savage owns Warrior in pretty much every way you can think of when it comes to wrestling.
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Post by hulkhogancollector on Mar 3, 2011 15:17:57 GMT -5
You got to be kidding is there anyone you do like? Lets see Hogan cant work, Warrior cant work, Backland cant work? I guess they need to stab people with forks to be considered a "good" worker in your esteemed opinion ;D Backlund certainly could have used something to offset his restholdmania matches. Maybe if his bowtie released poison gas or something he would have been more interesting? lol restholdmania oh you mean those Flair vs Steamboat restholdmania matches too ah? |
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Post by K5 on Mar 3, 2011 15:20:50 GMT -5
if you think warrior could work, you're blind.
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Post by jbarqu88 on Mar 3, 2011 15:26:02 GMT -5
Savage by far. I'm not too big of a fan of Warrior.
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