Squatch
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Post by Squatch on Dec 17, 2010 17:50:14 GMT -5
I was going through nWo videos and thought what if Bret Hart would have been the third man? What might have happened to WCW?
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Dec 17, 2010 21:12:38 GMT -5
I think if Hogan would've stayed babyface, he'd have crushed the NWO by the end of '96. The reason the NWO dominated so much was because of the Hulkster's creative control.
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Post by slappy on Dec 17, 2010 21:22:16 GMT -5
I don't know how old you are so I'm not sure if you heard the rumors of Bret Hart actually being the third man. I remember hearing the rumors that Bischoff wanted Bret to be the third man.
But yeah, pc's right.
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Post by Squatch on Dec 17, 2010 21:47:22 GMT -5
I don't know how old you are so I'm not sure if you heard the rumors of Bret Hart actually being the third man. I remember hearing the rumors that Bischoff wanted Bret to be the third man. But yeah, pc's right. I remember hearing about that when I looked up the nWo since I never got to see them on tv
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Post by Kliquid on Dec 17, 2010 21:48:04 GMT -5
The nWo would have failed.
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Post by ricflair4ever on Dec 18, 2010 3:12:38 GMT -5
I'm sure the nWo would have been a success. No doubt it would have shocked people to see Bret on WCW and cast in that heel role. I say it would've been over by looking at his heel run with the Hart Foundation 9 or so months later in WWF. Now ,although it might have worked well, there is NO way it would have been AS huge as it was with Hogan. Politics aside,Hogan had the charisma to pull off going from the biggest hero in wrestling history to its most reviled villain in 1 match. He even had pro- heel fans like myself hating his guts and cheering for WCW babyfaces I previously never would have,just because I despised Hogan enough to STILL hate him even after he "saw the light" and went heel. There's no way they could have replicated that with Bret. And to be fair to Bret,they couldn't have done it with anyone else either.
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Post by Airwave on Dec 18, 2010 4:41:03 GMT -5
The chemistry would of been a little off with Hart and Nash/Hall.
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Post by Eustache on Dec 18, 2010 12:48:43 GMT -5
The shock value of Hogan's heel turn gave the NWO the momentum that it needed to become as big as it became. I don't think it would have been as much of a shocker with Bret Hart.
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Post by Squatch on Dec 18, 2010 13:50:29 GMT -5
The shock value of Hogan's heel turn gave the NWO the momentum that it needed to become as big as it became. I don't think it would have been as much of a shocker with Bret Hart. I agree completely but maybe if the nWo Wolfpack had started in the end of 1997 then after Montreal Bret could have joined nWo Wolfpack
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Dec 19, 2010 0:46:59 GMT -5
The shock value of Hogan's heel turn gave the NWO the momentum that it needed to become as big as it became. I don't think it would have been as much of a shocker with Bret Hart. Good point. Hogan's previous heel days weren't known to the majority of WWF/WCW fans because they were in the distant past. Bret Hart had been a heel on WWF TV for years. It wouldn't have had the same effect. Furthermore, I don't think Bret's heart was ever in WCW. If you take him at face value in Wrestling with Shadows, he really didn't want to leave the WWF.
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Post by K5 on Dec 19, 2010 2:24:03 GMT -5
wouldn't have been right. however, if they'd brought in bret as the 'hitman' to take out the nwo, that would've been perfect.
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Post by The Assassin on Dec 19, 2010 15:15:42 GMT -5
Hogan is the biggest star of wrestling ever and was the biggest babyface ever too. he was SO over with the fans back then, and was a prime example of a good guy and a patriot. nobody else turning heel like he did would have made the same impact. plus hogan really put his heart and soul into being the baddest heel ever and put himself accross as extremely arrogant and a vicious coldhearted leader. and he gave up all the charity work and kept his heel persona outside the ring too. i can't imagine hart doing any of that, the fans and their opinion of him and just generally being a good person meant too much to hart for him to have thrown his whole weight behind being a heel like hogan did. and also i cant imagine hart having that good chemistry with hall, nash and the rest of the nWo. so in my opinion if hart had been the 3rd man, the angle wouldn't have made anywhere near as much impact, and the NWO storyline would have been over within a few months i think. just my opinion.
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Post by Squatch on Dec 19, 2010 19:04:41 GMT -5
Hogan is the biggest star of wrestling ever and was the biggest babyface ever too. he was SO over with the fans back then, and was a prime example of a good guy and a patriot. nobody else turning heel like he did would have made the same impact. plus hogan really put his heart and soul into being the baddest heel ever and put himself accross as extremely arrogant and a vicious coldhearted leader. and he gave up all the charity work and kept his heel persona outside the ring too. i can't imagine hart doing any of that, the fans and their opinion of him and just generally being a good person meant too much to hart for him to have thrown his whole weight behind being a heel like hogan did. and also i cant imagine hart having that good chemistry with hall, nash and the rest of the nWo. so in my opinion if hart had been the 3rd man, the angle wouldn't have made anywhere near as much impact, and the NWO storyline would have been over within a few months i think. just my opinion. Good opinion and like it was said earlier if Bret had came into WCW with a vengeance to rid WCW of the nWo then it would have worked especially if Bret and Warrior worked together as a team. ( I know its an odd alliance!)
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Dec 20, 2010 14:05:43 GMT -5
It would've worked but just for a short period of time. Hogan was the key to making them gain as much popularity as they did.
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Post by K5 on Dec 21, 2010 13:31:02 GMT -5
Hogan is the biggest star of wrestling ever and was the biggest babyface ever too. he was SO over with the fans back then, and was a prime example of a good guy and a patriot. nobody else turning heel like he did would have made the same impact. plus hogan really put his heart and soul into being the baddest heel ever and put himself accross as extremely arrogant and a vicious coldhearted leader. and he gave up all the charity work and kept his heel persona outside the ring too. i can't imagine hart doing any of that, the fans and their opinion of him and just generally being a good person meant too much to hart for him to have thrown his whole weight behind being a heel like hogan did. and also i cant imagine hart having that good chemistry with hall, nash and the rest of the nWo. so in my opinion if hart had been the 3rd man, the angle wouldn't have made anywhere near as much impact, and the NWO storyline would have been over within a few months i think. just my opinion. Good opinion and like it was said earlier if Bret had came into WCW with a vengeance to rid WCW of the nWo then it would have worked especially if Bret and Warrior worked together as a team. ( I know its an odd alliance!) nah, i would've definitely left warrior out of the equation. his match with hogan in 98 was ing dreadful.
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Post by Mr. Orange on Dec 21, 2010 22:16:33 GMT -5
It would have been hot until Hogan squashed Bret at Starrcade 1996. Then it'd be over
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2010 15:41:47 GMT -5
wouldn't have been right. however, if they'd brought in bret as the 'hitman' to take out the nwo, that would've been perfect. yup. I thought he was the third man because he hadnt been seen since WM12.I was starting to figure out when you dont see a guy for a while he is most likely gone
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Post by bountyhunterblood5 on Dec 24, 2010 10:13:10 GMT -5
Hogan being the 3rd man was much better idea because Hogan hadnt been a heel since Freddy Blassie was his manager. So seeing Hogan go heel was a huge shock. Hart has been the heel before so not much of a shock.
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