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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Dec 15, 2010 11:18:21 GMT -5
^ yea, it's absolutely true that for a while he was a positive role model, very much a force of good that balanced the actual violence involved. it's too bad wrestling has soured from the idea of heroes/villains. i mean, sure there is faces and heels, but the morals of both are often skewed. They still have some pretty clean cut characters like Cena, Big Show, Mysterio, and Daniel Bryan who would have fit in the family entertainment era. Yet anti-heros like Randy Orton, Edge, and HHH are more like Attitude Era characters. This is part of the reason that I think WWE has struggled in the last few years. They haven't had a concrete vision of their show and have tried to book to please everyone. That can't be done. The WWE is trying too hard to replicate the 80's. Once the era has concluded, it will be very hard to replicate it. As Jim Ross stated on the McMahon DVD, Ross stated that it will be impossible to replicate the success of the Austin-McMahon feud. The WWE needs to stop trying to replicate things that were successful in the 80's and 90's. Whatever worked in the 80's sure as hell won't work in 2010/2011. Its like the recording industry trying to bring back eight-tracks and market them to the masses.
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Post by K5 on Dec 15, 2010 15:10:57 GMT -5
They still have some pretty clean cut characters like Cena, Big Show, Mysterio, and Daniel Bryan who would have fit in the family entertainment era. Yet anti-heros like Randy Orton, Edge, and HHH are more like Attitude Era characters. This is part of the reason that I think WWE has struggled in the last few years. They haven't had a concrete vision of their show and have tried to book to please everyone. That can't be done. The WWE is trying too hard to replicate the 80's. Once the era has concluded, it will be very hard to replicate it. As Jim Ross stated on the McMahon DVD, Ross stated that it will be impossible to replicate the success of the Austin-McMahon feud. The WWE needs to stop trying to replicate things that were successful in the 80's and 90's. Whatever worked in the 80's sure as hell won't work in 2010/2011. Its like the recording industry trying to bring back eight-tracks and market them to the masses. exactly. they need to progress, not digress.
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Post by hulkhogancollector on Dec 17, 2010 12:42:16 GMT -5
That why I really didnt care for the Attitude era I cant remember any great matches from that time period not that there werent great matches, but everything got clouded in cheap heat gimmicks between the Godfather and his "hoes" Stone Cold middle finger and chugging beer in the ring cheap heat antics, Mark Henry lusting after Mae Young, DX and Chyna Crouch Chops it was easy to see why I liked WCW better at that time
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Dec 18, 2010 3:02:59 GMT -5
That why I really didnt care for the Attitude era I cant remember any great matches from that time period not that there werent great matches, but everything got clouded in cheap heat gimmicks between the Godfather and his "hoes" Stone Cold middle finger and chugging beer in the ring cheap heat antics, Mark Henry lusting after Mae Young, DX and Chyna Crouch Chops it was easy to see why I liked WCW better at that time There were plenty of great matches: Austin vs Taker at Summerslam, Taker vs. Foley HIAC, Austin vs Rock (several great ones), Rock vs. Foley I Quit at RR, Rock vs. Angle vs. HHH at Summerslam, Angle vs. Austin (several great ones).....and that is just the main event stuff. However, one pitfall of the Monday Night Wars is that great work/matches often got lost in the massive glut of 2 or 3 hour weekly shows and PPVs every month.
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Post by hulkhogancollector on Dec 28, 2010 16:08:51 GMT -5
yeah there were great matches just preferred the Bret Hart/ HBK 90s era to 1998 to 2000 cheap heat era WWF
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