TheEvilDoink1987
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Apr 20, 2010 3:27:30 GMT -5
WrestleMania IX is one of those shows where there is no middle ground -- you either love it or you hate it. The same can be said about the WWF as a whole during this time period; more specifically, 1993. It was a transitional period for the company -- post-Hulkamania/pre-Attitude Era -- as Vince & Co. were trying to find the next big thing (not him just yet) amidst steroid allegations and Congressionial hearings. Rewinding the wrestling clock a bit, Bret Hart defeated Ric Flair in October of 1992 to win the WWF championship. This was seen as a good move for several reasons: a.) Bret Hart was popular. b.) Bret Hart was a great technical wrestler. c.) Bret Hart was not a 'roided-up, meathead wrestler that Vince was trying to phase out in response to the above steroid scandal. He had a greatly underrated match with Shawn at Survivor Series. Two months later at the Rumble, he retained the belt in another solid match with Razor. This is where a potentially amazing WrestleMania main event gets flushed right down the wrestlecrapper. Later that night, Yokozuna wins the Rumble match and becomes the #1 contender to face Bret for the belt at WrestleMania. Yoko had only been with the company for a few months and despite his unique look,it seemed as if they were pushing him too hard too soon. Even worse, after he beat Bret for the title, all of his heat as an unstoppable monster was snuffed out when Hogan destroyed him in about 9 seconds. This did nothing for Bret. It certainly did nothing for Yokozuna's credibility, either. The only purpose it served was feeding Hogan's ego. After thinking about it, the real "cant-miss" main event of WrestleMania IX should not have been Bret Hart versus Yokozuna -- rather Bret Hart versus the man last eliminated in the Rumble match...  This could have been a WrestleMania classic!!! Savage was still super-over at the time and there is no doubt that a title match between him and Bret would have garnered much more attention/viewers/buyrates/genuine fan interest for the event. Some of the greatest matches pit two babyfaces against one another where the crowd is really torn as to who they want to win. Having Bret go over Savage -- a wrestling legend even back in 1993 -- would have done wonders for his initial title run and really elevated him as a legitimate champion. Not to mention that the match would most likely kick all kinds of ass! If you read that all, God Bless. Thoughts? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2010 9:38:20 GMT -5
oh yeah.93 could have been EPIC for Hart with Victories over Savage at WM and Hogan at Summerslam.
what we got wasnt half as good as this would have been.
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Post by Sam Hain on Apr 20, 2010 10:23:49 GMT -5
Hart vs. Hogan would have been huge, but I don't see him and Savage being good at that point. Savage proved in 92 that he wasn't what he once was.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2010 11:36:50 GMT -5
Hart vs. Hogan would have been huge, but I don't see him and Savage being good at that point. Savage proved in 92 that he wasn't what he once was. yeah thats a fair point I suppose.......Macho had faded a bit but I still think Hart vs Savage could have been great. I was trying to remember who Savage faced at WM9.....then I remembered he was on commentary  |
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Apr 20, 2010 11:55:22 GMT -5
Hart vs. Hogan would have been huge, but I don't see him and Savage being good at that point. Savage proved in 92 that he wasn't what he once was. yeah thats a fair point I suppose.......Macho had faded a bit but I still think Hart vs Savage could have been great. I was trying to remember who Savage faced at WM9.....then I remembered he was on commentary Exactly! Maybe everyone's perception of Savage from this era is a little jaded because, besides his program with Crush, the WWF gave him NOTHING to do the last few years he was there. He was stuck doing commentary with the likes of Rob Bartlett. I totally agree that Hart versus Hogan at Summerslam would have been huge. However, the same argument could be used against Hogan. By that point, his star power was beginning to wane as well. And I don't think I am out of line saying that a 1993 version of Randy Savage would have provided a much better wrestling match than Hogan on his best day. I liked Yokozuna too, but Bret would have gained so much more beating an icon like Savage instead of a green sumo wrestler. Of course neither happened, as Bret got the shaft in favor of Yoko and particularly Hogan. Still, I wish someone had those Sumerslam promo pictures of Hogan and Bret both holding the belt. Thinking about it now, despite destroying him in short order at WMIX, Hogan's selfishness totally made Yokozuna's career. |
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Post by Sam Hain on Apr 20, 2010 12:26:01 GMT -5
I just think Savage was burnt out and needed the jump to WCW to recharge his battery.
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Post by ryantyme on Apr 20, 2010 12:44:36 GMT -5
He had a greatly underrated match with Shawn at Survivor Series. Two months later at the Rumble, he regained the belt in another solid match with Razor.
retained not regained. Good potential matchup in hindsight about Savage but as others pointed out. He was being phased out. |
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Post by marino13 on Apr 20, 2010 19:20:02 GMT -5
I hated WM9 with a passion. Hogan ruined it for me.  But I love the idea of Hart vs Savage. They are two of my absolute favorite wrestlers of all time, So this would have been a dream match for me. Savage & Hart had a match on Saturday's Main Event during Savage's feud with Honky Tonk Man that was awesome. So a match at Mania could/would have been ten times better even though it was years later. P.S. I freaking loved the Evil Doink! +1 |
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Post by K5 on Apr 20, 2010 22:26:53 GMT -5
would've been my two favourites. woot
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Post by koreygunz on Apr 21, 2010 13:56:35 GMT -5
The original plans for the Royal Rumble for 93 was Bret vs Warrior with Bret going over. Perhaps if Warrior hadnt been fired, maybe they would have went in a different direction at Mania. Imagine the run Bret would have been on if he beat Warrior at the Rumble, Savage at Mania, and then Hogan at SummerSlam (as was originally planned as well.)
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Post by bane on Apr 21, 2010 16:09:11 GMT -5
Also would've liked to see the Bigelow Kamala match but it wasn't meant to be...
Savage vs. Hart huh? I didn't like Hogan headlining 9 WMs. I really don't like anyone taking that long to be on top. With that said, how many WMs had Savage been in the Main Event in? 4,5 and you could argue 7. But I do like that better than Yoko Hart. Maybe Yoko should have challenged Hogan earlier. WM 9 is where Yoko should have been put over Hogan. Hart vs. Savage I think would've been good. I am trying to wrap my mind around it now....MAYBE put Backlund vs. Hogan. That would've been a first...
Hell, let's all just redo the card. I am sure the creative minds here can come up with something better.
Here's mine:
Shawn vs. Marty Jannetty inter title steel cage
Headshrinkers vs. steiners vs. Beverly Brothers three way
Backlund vs. Hogan-Backlund turns heel a year early. Says he is the real champion
Hart vs. Savage
Money Inc. vs. Nasty Boys-They had a feud then no?
Undertaker vs. Giant Gonzalez three way
Perfect vs. Narcissist keep this one
Crush vs. doink
Yoko vs. Big BossMan
Damian Demento mentors Berzerker segment
Repo man reposesses Beefcake's facemask.
Repo man vs. Beefcake
Tatanka vs. Terry Taylor
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2010 8:58:42 GMT -5
The original plans for the Royal Rumble for 93 was Bret vs Warrior with Bret going over. Perhaps if Warrior hadnt been fired, maybe they would have went in a different direction at Mania. Imagine the run Bret would have been on if he beat Warrior at the Rumble, Savage at Mania, and then Hogan at SummerSlam (as was originally planned as well.) +1 because I completly forgot Hart was supposed to face and defeat Warrior at RR93 |
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Post by dcw1 on Apr 23, 2010 10:36:52 GMT -5
It's a shame Bulldog wasn't in the WWE at this point, I would of liked Bulldog vs. HBK at WM for the IC title. I still would of liked Bret/Hogan just because they were the two most over wrestlers at that time and that at Wrestlemania outdoors would be amazing imo. Other matches maybe, Luger and Tatanka? Both undefeated at that point, could of built a small feud around that. Razor Ramon and Savage would of been pretty good as well I think and Yokozuna/Undertaker. So there they could of had:
Bret Hart vs. Hulk Hogan (WWF Championship) (The two most over wrestlers in the WWF in a face vs. face blockbuster WM main event ie. Hogan/Warrior)
British Bulldog vs. Shawn Michaels (Intercontinental Title) (Would of made sense because Bulldog lost the belt to him before being fired so they could of carried on the feud)
Yokozuna vs. The Undertaker (Have Yokozuna claim he's gonna end Undertakers career because there is only room for one dominant force in the WWF)
Razor Ramon vs. Randy Savage (Ramon being the cocky heel goes on a winning streak and then calls Savage out and says he wants to beat a legend at Wrestlemania to prove how good he is)
Luger vs. Tatanka (Again both men undefeated, one challenges the other, writes itself really)
I'd probably add to that as well
Brutus Beefcake vs. Ted Dibiase (Revenge over the briefcase incident)
Headshrinkers vs. Steiners (keep that match as it was but give one of the teams the tag titles before WM)
Doink the Clown vs. Crush I dunno what I'd do to that tbh cos I can't think of anyone to have Doink feud with maybe Mr. Perfect or someone.
Well I think that'd be a damn good card in my opinion anyway.
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Post by bane on Apr 23, 2010 16:16:20 GMT -5
It's a shame Bulldog wasn't in the WWE at this point, I would of liked Bulldog vs. HBK at WM for the IC title. I still would of liked Bret/Hogan just because they were the two most over wrestlers at that time and that at Wrestlemania outdoors would be amazing imo. Other matches maybe, Luger and Tatanka? Both undefeated at that point, could of built a small feud around that. Razor Ramon and Savage would of been pretty good as well I think and Yokozuna/Undertaker. So there they could of had: Bret Hart vs. Hulk Hogan (WWF Championship) (The two most over wrestlers in the WWF in a face vs. face blockbuster WM main event ie. Hogan/Warrior) British Bulldog vs. Shawn Michaels (Intercontinental Title) (Would of made sense because Bulldog lost the belt to him before being fired so they could of carried on the feud) Yokozuna vs. The Undertaker (Have Yokozuna claim he's gonna end Undertakers career because there is only room for one dominant force in the WWF) Razor Ramon vs. Randy Savage (Ramon being the cocky heel goes on a winning streak and then calls Savage out and says he wants to beat a legend at Wrestlemania to prove how good he is) Luger vs. Tatanka (Again both men undefeated, one challenges the other, writes itself really) I'd probably add to that as well Brutus Beefcake vs. Ted Dibiase (Revenge over the briefcase incident) Headshrinkers vs. Steiners (keep that match as it was but give one of the teams the tag titles before WM) Doink the Clown vs. Crush I dunno what I'd do to that tbh cos I can't think of anyone to have Doink feud with maybe Mr. Perfect or someone. Well I think that'd be a damn good card in my opinion anyway. You can't just leave Giant Gonzalez off the card...Maybe have him vs. Bigelow vs. Kamala... |
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Post by raz2005uk on Apr 23, 2010 19:28:24 GMT -5
alot was wrong with the card at WM IX - definitely hogan vs. bret would have made sense - but to be honest I was quite young at the time and I still enjoyed the event - probably because of Hogan and the fact it was caeser's palace and there's always a different atmosphere when Wrestlemania takes place outdoors!
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