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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2010 19:51:51 GMT -5
I don't think Bane has a personal vendetta against Sting. He's just extremely narrow-minded and can't see past his "loyalty" to the WWF. In the 80's, the NWA was not a minor league. No one who knows anything about wrestling would say that. The national wrestling media routinely chose its wrestler and tag teams of the year from the NWA and other wrestling leagues because most of the time, the best wrestling was happening outside the WWF (also something almost every old school wrestling fan knows). What the WWF had going for it, and what eventually allowed it take over the wrestling universe, was Vince's marketing skill and the financial muscle of the NY/northeast economic base. That's it.
In the History of the World Championship DVD, produced by the WWE, it is made clear that NWA world championship was the most prestigious wrestling title in the world -- not a minor league belt. I wish Bane could see past his own subjective tastes, but as usual, he will probably just repeat his own nonsensical stance, even when he's been faced with evidence which blows his argument away.
Two final points. One, even die-hard WWE lovers know that there are plenty of reasons someone might not want to work for Vince. Bane is literally the only person ever to accuse Sting of base cowardice for not coming to the WWF. Sounds like a rationalization to me. Finally, although he's a little older than me, I've been watching wrestling since I was a toddler. To people who actually know about wrestling, Bane sounds crazier than those kids who've been voting for ShowMiz as the greatest tag team on WWE.com.
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Post by The Champ is Here! on Apr 15, 2010 20:02:14 GMT -5
Can you really blame Sting for not wanting to wrestle for the WWE? You can have your opinion, but history shows that Vince has quite a track record of undermining major talent from rival organizations simply because he did not create them. And of course a guy like Hogan would come back for WrestleMania. The Hulkster would never pass up a 'Mania payday. Sting was one of the most popular wrestlers during one of the most popular eras in wrestling history. If you don't like the guy, okay, but denying his impact on pro wrestling just because you didn't care for the other product shows pure ignorance. Sting always had a secure top spot in WCW and I'm sure he was paid extremely well by the AOL Time Warner brass. By the time WCW was bought out by Vince in 2001, Sting was already 42. Expecting him to take a buyout on his lucrative contract to work a much busier WWF schedule at that age is pretty ridiculous. And I'm sure after watching the Invasion angle unfold and the misuse of other WCW talent such as DDP and Goldberg, any interest he may have had in joining Vince completely subsided. His Christian beliefs may have also played a role in his hesitation to join a much raunchier, pre-PG WWE. From many of his peers, Sting is considered one of the better guys in the business. He is a devout family man, great to the fans and has given a lot to the industry so calling him a "puss" is uncalled for and immature. WWE will induct Sting into their Hall of Fame once his in-ring days in TNA come to an end. He deserves it more than most and for anybody to think otherwise shows just how little they really know about pro wrestling. He had his chance in 89 to come over with Terry Taylor etc. He CHOSE not to. He wasn't making the "big bucks" from time warner then. He is a puss. Plain and simple. He didn't want to be second to Hogan. I have no respect for him. It's like turning down an Oscar so you can still make independent movies. Turning down the WWF is just like that. He was never a star and never will be. I know more than you do having watched it much longer than you...You who were born in 87. I am 38 and been watching since I was 14. That puts me in 86. One year before you were born. You couldn't possibly have the knowledge I do just because you didn't see things how they unfolded. He may belong in a hall of fame. They gave it to other wrestlers who were never in the WWF. They stayed independent their whole careers. Quite sad really. And I would tell it to his face too. No matter WHAT you do.. No matter what job you do. You should ALWAYS try your best. The fact that he never did speaks volumes about this "family" man. He may have been great at family, but career choices? Not so much. How do you know why he didn't want to come over? You don't know. and to say your tv is the only one that matters maybe the biggest load of garbage ever. pretty sure WWE didn't feel that way. you can say whatever you want, but, to deny that Sting is one of the biggest stars of the 90's, is just ignorant Here's what I don't get. You have opinions, its very obvious, but when someone says something different, its invalid? grow the heck up you immature punk
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Post by ryantyme on Apr 15, 2010 22:21:22 GMT -5
Was he as Popular as Hulk Hogan during there 1997 program I'm asking because I only watch WWE at the time. Thanks for looking To directly answer the question. First, the premise of it at it's very core is flawed. In 1997 Hogan was huge HEEL. Sting was silent babyface. So to answer, Sting was FAR more popular than Hogan during their "1997 program".
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Apr 16, 2010 0:20:26 GMT -5
Can you really blame Sting for not wanting to wrestle for the WWE? You can have your opinion, but history shows that Vince has quite a track record of undermining major talent from rival organizations simply because he did not create them. And of course a guy like Hogan would come back for WrestleMania. The Hulkster would never pass up a 'Mania payday. Sting was one of the most popular wrestlers during one of the most popular eras in wrestling history. If you don't like the guy, okay, but denying his impact on pro wrestling just because you didn't care for the other product shows pure ignorance. Sting always had a secure top spot in WCW and I'm sure he was paid extremely well by the AOL Time Warner brass. By the time WCW was bought out by Vince in 2001, Sting was already 42. Expecting him to take a buyout on his lucrative contract to work a much busier WWF schedule at that age is pretty ridiculous. And I'm sure after watching the Invasion angle unfold and the misuse of other WCW talent such as DDP and Goldberg, any interest he may have had in joining Vince completely subsided. His Christian beliefs may have also played a role in his hesitation to join a much raunchier, pre-PG WWE. From many of his peers, Sting is considered one of the better guys in the business. He is a devout family man, great to the fans and has given a lot to the industry so calling him a "puss" is uncalled for and immature. WWE will induct Sting into their Hall of Fame once his in-ring days in TNA come to an end. He deserves it more than most and for anybody to think otherwise shows just how little they really know about pro wrestling. He had his chance in 89 to come over with Terry Taylor etc. He CHOSE not to. He wasn't making the "big bucks" from time warner then. He is a puss. Plain and simple. He didn't want to be second to Hogan. I have no respect for him. It's like turning down an Oscar so you can still make independent movies. Turning down the WWF is just like that. He was never a star and never will be. I know more than you do having watched it much longer than you...You who were born in 87. I am 38 and been watching since I was 14. That puts me in 86. One year before you were born. You couldn't possibly have the knowledge I do just because you didn't see things how they unfolded. He may belong in a hall of fame. They gave it to other wrestlers who were never in the WWF. They stayed independent their whole careers. Quite sad really. And I would tell it to his face too. No matter WHAT you do.. No matter what job you do. You should ALWAYS try your best. The fact that he never did speaks volumes about this "family" man. He may have been great at family, but career choices? Not so much. To be your age (38) and where you are from (Atlanta home of wCw) and to make fun of wCw's biggest star is just odd to me.
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