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Post by King Silva on Mar 31, 2010 23:14:47 GMT -5
The last video was cool.
Seemed like the red took forever to get down there!
Going to be cool to watch it on SD since it will look a lot better from the right angle.
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Post by pineappleexpress on Apr 1, 2010 0:14:05 GMT -5
I liked Swagger's reaction after winning.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Apr 1, 2010 1:54:58 GMT -5
Swagger World champ? What a load of bollocks. You all complain that WWE needs to push young talent and then when Sheamus gets the WWE title and Swagger wins MITB and beats the precious Jericho for the World title theres moaning.But I will say that it would've made more sense to have had him beat Jericho after the Mania match since Edge "laid him out." Wrong talent, I'm afraid. Neither Sheamus or Swagger should be anywhere near a World championship. By pushing young talent, I mean that talent should be built up over months and months, until they CAN ACTUALLY GET A CROWD REACTION. Start from the bottom and work their way up slowly. This on the other hand is December: Barely on Raw Jan: Jobbing Feb: Jobbing March 1-27: Jobbing March 28: Finally a Win March 31: World Title win. Really? How is that 'Building someone"? That's called "hot shotting" and "stupid ass decision" Stop bitching enjoy the product, and respect your new champion.He sucks... and I don't enjoy someone I can't stand. I have absolutely no interest in seeing Swagger on TV - let alone as WHC. |
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Post by gordon on Apr 1, 2010 2:40:36 GMT -5
Swagger World champ? What a load of bollocks. You all complain that WWE needs to push young talent and then when Sheamus gets the WWE title and Swagger wins MITB and beats the precious Jericho for the World title theres moaning.But I will say that it would've made more sense to have had him beat Jericho after the Mania match since Edge "laid him out." Wrong talent, I'm afraid. Neither Sheamus or Swagger should be anywhere near a World championship. Stop bitching enjoy the product, and respect your new champion.He sucks... and I don't enjoy someone I can't stand. I have absolutely no interest in seeing Swagger on TV - let alone as WHC.[/quote] You say he sucks, but he's got the total package. Great wrestler, good mic skills, charisma, get's a reaction, people want to see him get beat etc. Where your boyfriend Paul Burchill didn't have the good mic skills, the reaction, the charisma or the beating factor. He was a great wrestler and that's it. |
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Apr 1, 2010 2:50:06 GMT -5
Swagger World champ? What a load of bollocks. Wrong talent, I'm afraid. Neither Sheamus or Swagger should be anywhere near a World championship. Stop bitching enjoy the product, and respect your new champion.He sucks... and I don't enjoy someone I can't stand. I have absolutely no interest in seeing Swagger on TV - let alone as WHC. You say he sucks, but he's got the total package.Great wrestler, good mic skills, charisma, get's a reaction, people want to see him get beat etc. Where your boyfriend Paul Burchill didn't have the good mic skills, the reaction, the charisma or the beating factor. He was a great wrestler and that's it.[/quote] No, he hasn't got the total package. Swagger can wrestle - that's it. He's got barely any charisma, his promos are awful... and he sounds like Sylvester the Cat. Repeating the word "American" isn't charismatic. He's simply not championship material. As far as Burchill goes - and I don't know why you even brought him into it, his mic-skills were fine - when he got a chance to use them... and he showed a lot of charisma when he was the Pirate. The thought of Swagger as champ is just horrible... and the only postive I can take out of this, is that at least it wasn't Punk he cashed in on. |
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Post by Jord on Apr 1, 2010 6:01:47 GMT -5
I love Swagger, so I'm happy to see him win. However, he went from wrestling Hornswoggle to winning the World Title..
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Post by the hell demon on Apr 1, 2010 7:21:18 GMT -5
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Post by gordon on Apr 1, 2010 8:58:51 GMT -5
He sucks... and I don't enjoy someone I can't stand. I have absolutely no interest in seeing Swagger on TV - let alone as WHC. You say he sucks, but he's got the total package.Great wrestler, good mic skills, charisma, get's a reaction, people want to see him get beat etc. Where your boyfriend Paul Burchill didn't have the good mic skills, the reaction, the charisma or the beating factor. He was a great wrestler and that's it. No, he hasn't got the total package. Swagger can wrestle - that's it. He's got barely any charisma, his promos are awful... and he sounds like Sylvester the Cat. Repeating the word "American" isn't charismatic. He's simply not championship material. As far as Burchill goes - and I don't know why you even brought him into it, his mic-skills were fine - when he got a chance to use them... and he showed a lot of charisma when he was the Pirate. The thought of Swagger as champ is just horrible... and the only postive I can take out of this, is that at least it wasn't Punk he cashed in on.[/quote] Blah, blah, blah your favourite wrestlers are the best, the ones who get pushes above them are awful. How is Punk repeating the same speech every week charismatic? Swagger has charisma, you're just so blinded by your biasness that you can't see it. |
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Post by missedgehead on Apr 1, 2010 9:29:36 GMT -5
Swagger does have charisma and I think he has a lot of talent. I am willing to give the kid a shot. My question is that he has gone from being a jobber to winning the MITB and now he is the champ with NO build. Just hard for me to buy him as champ. I am all for building new stars, but really.
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Post by gordon on Apr 1, 2010 9:39:16 GMT -5
Swagger does have charisma and I think he has a lot of talent. I am willing to give the kid a shot. My question is that he has gone from being a jobber to winning the MITB and now he is the champ with NO build. Just hard for me to buy him as champ. I am all for building new stars, but really. I have mixed views. On one hand, I dislike that Swagger's had relatively no build and been given the World title on SmackDown over Edge and Jericho. But on the other hand, this is the push he should have had instead of Sheamus over on Raw. When HHH befriended Sheamus & McIntyre, they took the pushes from Jack Swagger & Dolph Ziggler. Which pissed me off. |
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Apr 1, 2010 13:24:41 GMT -5
I am also half and half. They did this whole thing late last year where he was going to go undefeated for the rest of the year. He lost like the third week. He had this whole thing for the Royal Rumble where Santino kept throwing him out of the ring....and Santino wasn't even in the Rumble. Then, he did NOTHING, until he was magically in that MITB qualifying match. I was SHOCKED that he won. Then he wins MITB, another shocker. To analyze it up until that point, he was booked to look like crap until the Raw where he won the MITB qualifier. Lets get some momentum going. The next night on Raw, he has an altercation with Cena, which looked like it was going somewhere....50 mins later, he cuts a terrible promo, where I feel like he lost count of the number of times he said "American" (All-American American American? is he supposed to be Eugene's son?), eats an RKO in a tag match that made Orton look like a super face, and is pinned again. Momentum, meet brick wall. The next night...Oh look, he's on Smackdown and defeats Jericho in weasel-like fashion. So the message conveyed by all of this is that he isn't good enough to face two of the last three Raw champions (Orton or Cena), so he has to go to Smackdown to get a cheap win over Jericho. In itself, there is nothing wrong with the cheap win. Unfortunately, based on his booking he looks like a weak champion. Yes, they got the shock value of having him take out Jericho to win the belt, but they could have easily done that without the loss to Orton.
Don't get me wrong, I am not totally against this at all, and am looking forward to seeing where they go. I like his in-ring work a lot and it's FINALLY something different. Swagger is miles better than Shaemus, who totally sucks the wad in every way. At least Swagger can actually wrestle. He needs to learn to talk, stop f#cking saying "American", develop some sort of personality (beyond that of a little intellectually- disabled boy), and actually beat some real guys. I fear that the whole purpose of this is to elongate the Edge/Jericho story with Swagger as a pawn. He isn't a lost cause yet, but if they don't start actually booking him to look strong (with wins, not competitive DQ losses) then nothing will be gained from this experiment, and it could destroy Swagger's career irreparably.
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Post by extreme on Apr 1, 2010 15:14:13 GMT -5
I just hope Swagger winning the title doesn't ruin the Edge/Jericho feud.
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Post by T1 on Apr 1, 2010 21:23:28 GMT -5
I'm still in (happy) shock over this. Almost every week that Sheamus was champ, I kept asking myself why it couldn't be Swagger getting that random push...(although I did eventually end up liking Sheamus). It's very random but Swagger is honestly the future of this company...assuming they don't screw up his push. His ECW Championship reign was amazing, and hopefully this one will be just as good.
And the idea of a "State of the champ" address is godly. Didn't JBL do one of those once? Can't believe it's been 6 years since JBL was champ.
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Post by myaddow on Apr 1, 2010 22:35:17 GMT -5
Anyone else surprised that WWE didnt post it on their site?
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