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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2010 18:28:11 GMT -5
some of the scenarios with Sting in WWF from 89 thru 95 are really mouthwatering IMO
I also dont think Vince would have changed him.look at others from JCP
Hawk and Animal Arn and Tully Ric Flair
were all essentially left alone.I know he softened Hawk and Animals look but he wouldnt even have had to do that with Sting.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2010 19:40:24 GMT -5
some of the scenarios with Sting in WWF from 89 thru 95 are really mouthwatering IMO I also dont think Vince would have changed him.look at others from JCP Hawk and Animal Arn and Tully Ric Flair were all essentially left alone.I know he softened Hawk and Animals look but he wouldnt even have had to do that with Sting..... Although Vince left their looks relatively unchanged, he definitely watered them all down. Even Flair. In the NWA, he was a cheatin' heel, but he was still a legit threat to beat almost anyone cleanly. Not so in the WWF. It's not so much that Vince would have changed Sting, but that he would have used him in ways that diminish his character. I have to admit, though, that my take on this is colored by my complete lack of respect for WWF/E's in-ring product. The prospect of Sting holding WWE-style matches with various big WWE stars is exciting to a lot of people, but doesn't really move me at all. Maybe Sting vs. Michaels (a great in ring performer), but the HBK character has always annoyed me, so the promos/build-up would've been a chore.
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Post by PJ on Feb 3, 2010 20:42:30 GMT -5
No. I think if Sting went to the WWE Vince would have ruined him. Maybe not ruined him, but he wouldn't have used him correctly. I think he'd have marketed him well, but I also think he'd always be held back from the top spot. And I do think Sting is just as much an Icon as the guys from his era.
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Post by carly1988 on Feb 3, 2010 20:52:40 GMT -5
No. I think if Sting went to the WWE Vince would have ruined him. Maybe not ruined him, but he wouldn't have used him correctly. I think he'd have marketed him well, but I also think he'd always be held back from the top spot. And I do think Sting is just as much an Icon as the guys from his era. There is no way he would have been the top face so you're right, he might not have been ruined but he wouldnt have been used right. I mean he would been on the level of Warrior or Savage. Talent/charisma but stuck behind the monster Hogan. He would had really flubbed if he left with Flair. With Hogan/Savage/Piper as top faces and then Flair/Sid/Taker as the top heels, Sting would have been royally F'd
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Feb 3, 2010 23:48:56 GMT -5
No. I think if Sting went to the WWE Vince would have ruined him. Maybe not ruined him, but he wouldn't have used him correctly. I think he'd have marketed him well, but I also think he'd always be held back from the top spot. And I do think Sting is just as much an Icon as the guys from his era. There is no way he would have been the top face so you're right, he might not have been ruined but he wouldnt have been used right. I mean he would been on the level of Warrior or Savage. Talent/charisma but stuck behind the monster Hogan. He would had really flubbed if he left with Flair. With Hogan/Savage/Piper as top faces and then Flair/Sid/Taker as the top heels, Sting would have been royally F'd You guys took the words, right out of my mouth.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2010 7:05:41 GMT -5
I knew most folks would disagree with Flairs statement.Im still kinda on the fence but the more I think about it the more I agree
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Post by PJ on Feb 4, 2010 14:15:36 GMT -5
I don't disagree with Flair's statement because I do think with that kind of backing it would have been true. I disagree because I just don't see Vince putting Sting on the same level as his guys if he had him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2010 19:36:02 GMT -5
I don't disagree with Flair's statement because I do think with that kind of backing it would have been true. I disagree because I just don't see Vince putting Sting on the same level as his guys if he had him. but isnt that what Flair was saying PJ?that if Sting had of went north Vinnie would have known what to do with him?as opposed to the way his career went? thats the way I picked it up.....but I havent seen the DVD fior a while.he says something similar in his shoot. I think if Sting had arrived in 1991 when I was 11 I would have wet myself ;D
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Post by PJ on Feb 4, 2010 21:52:05 GMT -5
Yes that's what Flair was saying. But what I'm saying is if there was that kind of corperation backing Sting (that wasn't the WWE) he'd have been huge. I don't think it would have happened in the WWE during that time period because Vince would have never made him bigger than Hulkamaina he'd have held him back.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2010 7:18:28 GMT -5
Yes that's what Flair was saying. But what I'm saying is if there was that kind of corperation backing Sting (that wasn't the WWE) he'd have been huge. I don't think it would have happened in the WWE during that time period because Vince would have never made him bigger than Hulkamaina he'd have held him back. the ideal time for Sting to jump would have been 1992.as we seen WCW was in chaos and Hulkamania was fading.....
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Post by greenjack1992 on Feb 6, 2010 20:08:38 GMT -5
I'm really glad he never went, I just think he would have gotten the Goldberg treatment, particularly if it had happened after the acquisition.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2010 20:21:01 GMT -5
I'm really glad he never went, I just think he would have gotten the Goldberg treatment, particularly if it had happened after the acquisition. I think he was right not to go there after the closure of WCW.especially after the initial invasion angle. he would have been fed to HHH in a title program just like Booker,Goldberg and Nash.
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Post by layton on Feb 6, 2010 21:46:32 GMT -5
Depends on when he came. If he came during the Hogan runs then he would have still be the 2nd biggest face in the company... Also I dont understand why everyone wants to see Taker vs Crow Sting? They've fought before, both in their younger more agile days and the match wasnt great then. I dont see the "aura" (is that the word?) of Sting vs Taker. What just because they both wear black and long coats and have slimy hair?? A Sting vs HBK match would have been much more off the charts I think it's the program and the storylines that everyone hypes. The match itself would be pretty good, but the build would be incredible.
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Post by roth630 on Feb 8, 2010 16:31:01 GMT -5
nah. Sting didn't find her true persona in the 80's yet. He was still green, and yeah I know the Warrior was green as can be. But Sting got a education wrestling the likes of Flair and the rest of the Horsemen. And tagging with Dusty and so on. He learned everything from them. There wasn't anyone in the WWF, at that time, that would or could do that. Hogan would never have cause he wouldn't want Sting to pass him. Savage was paranoid as ever and would never give up his spot. Warrior was a tool. Andre wouldn't take the time to care. Sting was right to stay with WCW/NWA.
Now the attitude era is a different story. I think Sting would have done well in a feud with Austin and then The Rock. But he wouldn't have lasted too long. I just don't ever see him fitting in up north.
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Post by LA Times on Feb 9, 2010 18:06:06 GMT -5
I'm really glad he never went, I just think he would have gotten the Goldberg treatment, particularly if it had happened after the acquisition. I think he was right not to go there after the closure of WCW.especially after the initial invasion angle. he would have been fed to HHH in a title program just like Booker,Goldberg and Nash. If Sting went to the WWF after the Invasion angle ended, he wouldve made for a month of interesting TV before becoming a midcarder. If he went during the late 80s/early 90s, he wouldve been the second coming of Rugged Ronnie Garvin.
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Post by K5 on Feb 10, 2010 22:24:45 GMT -5
there's a lot of honor in the fact that he never sold out and switched over. he was one of the few to resist vince's pull.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2010 3:41:21 GMT -5
Im glad he didnt go. I prefered WCW back in the day and they never would have survived without Dting
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2010 3:41:49 GMT -5
He probably would have made more money there though
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Post by carly1988 on Feb 11, 2010 8:59:08 GMT -5
Yes that's what Flair was saying. But what I'm saying is if there was that kind of corperation backing Sting (that wasn't the WWE) he'd have been huge. I don't think it would have happened in the WWE during that time period because Vince would have never made him bigger than Hulkamaina he'd have held him back. the ideal time for Sting to jump would have been 1992.as we seen WCW was in chaos and Hulkamania was fading..... I think '92 would have been bad. He would be behind Savage and Warrior as a face and of course Flair would still be the top dog. I think '93 would have been prime for him as Hogan, Savage, Warrior, Flair had all pretty much left and the only names left were Bret Hart and to an extent Yokozuna. Sting would have left guys like Bob Backlund, Diesel etc in the dust. Even with The Undertaker still around it wasnt really in the title picture again for another 4 years.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2010 10:39:21 GMT -5
the ideal time for Sting to jump would have been 1992.as we seen WCW was in chaos and Hulkamania was fading..... I think '92 would have been bad. He would be behind Savage and Warrior as a face and of course Flair would still be the top dog. I think '93 would have been prime for him as Hogan, Savage, Warrior, Flair had all pretty much left and the only names left were Bret Hart and to an extent Yokozuna. Sting would have left guys like Bob Backlund, Diesel etc in the dust. Even with The Undertaker still around it wasnt really in the title picture again for another 4 years. yes.....93 would have been better.
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