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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2009 4:01:41 GMT -5
Didn't Bret run over Sid with a monster truck one week, and then Sid appaared unhurt the following week?
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Post by k5 on Mar 9, 2009 13:24:43 GMT -5
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Dwight
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Post by Dwight on Mar 9, 2009 14:45:25 GMT -5
They just couldn't use him, all that mattered was that they stole him from Vince and they had him. That is basically how I feel. It was such a big deal obtaining Bret at the time. When they first tried in 1996 to get him to sign it really would have hurt the WWF. I mean really it was Taker, Bret, and Shawn at that point and time. By the time the screwjob happened a year later they had many young stars ready and able to take the next level that...I won't say it wasn't a big deal to lose Bret but it was certainly less painful for them I believe. I'm a huge Bret fan and I wanted him to succeed in WCW. But he really didn't do jack in WCW. He was world champion material but instead he was dicked around for two years with the US title and all that crap. By the time he was champion most people really didn't give a damn anymore. The problem with WCW by that point was they had a load of main even talent but only one World Title.
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Post by Sims on Mar 9, 2009 16:46:50 GMT -5
I;m now watching the WCW Nitro episdoe where Bret is supposed to make his debut. Weird.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2009 17:09:58 GMT -5
Thanks man, cheers. It was cool at the time, to someone, wasn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2009 20:08:45 GMT -5
I just enjoyed this finally happening
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Post by deskjet on Mar 9, 2009 21:19:03 GMT -5
they effed it up havin him in the nwo. they never built anything toward brett vs Hogan which woulda been phenomenal
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Post by k5 on Mar 9, 2009 23:30:30 GMT -5
they never built anything toward brett vs Hogan which woulda been phenomenal well, they kind of did. but not enough. he was just lost in the shuffle.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2009 14:20:56 GMT -5
they never built anything toward brett vs Hogan which woulda been phenomenal well, they kind of did. but not enough. he was just lost in the shuffle. yup.instead of pursuing the villanous NWO for the World belt he went after Booker T for the TV belt......inspired booking
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Post by k5 on Mar 10, 2009 14:42:41 GMT -5
it was cool how during his latter days in wcw he was teamed with benoit following their two matches. i loved them as a team.
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Post by fdamage: Elite Trader on Mar 10, 2009 15:25:31 GMT -5
well, they kind of did. but not enough. he was just lost in the shuffle. yup.instead of pursuing the villanous NWO for the World belt he went after Booker T for the TV belt......inspired booking Exactly. I miss WCW & when I look back at stuff like this it's really disappointing because they really had so much going for them.
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Post by gtm on Mar 12, 2009 10:21:26 GMT -5
I think that wcw just snapped them up before they could go back to the WWF but had no plan after that so they just knda faded. Bret could have gone far,bulldog and Anvil i dno.
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Post by STOMWIJF on Mar 13, 2009 7:12:05 GMT -5
From that time all I can remember is that Bulldog & Anvil looked totally helpless and lost 'feuding' with Rude and Hennig and Bret Hart NOT being on Nitro for long periods. Ànd when he was he had no build-up matches with Fit Finlay or Booker T.
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Post by Dwight on Mar 13, 2009 12:55:58 GMT -5
There really wasn't anything for Bulldog or Anvil to do. Like I said before, they had so much talent that guys just got lost in the shuffle. Anvil was never much of a singles guy and Bulldog just got lost in it all and there was nothing for him to do.
What is sad is Bret was World Champion material but yet he got lost just as much as the lower card guys. And it all started the night he debuted and they put him as a dumb guest referee for Starrcade. Then they basically just threw him around from pointless feud to pointless feud.
He had some matches that are often forgotten that were actually pretty decent. But most people remember him being tossed around until finally getting the World Title...which most felt Benoit should have won and they would be correct by that point.
Here is one of my favorite matches of Bret in WCW. Vs Randy Savage at Slamboree 98 with Roddy Piper as guest referee.
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Mar 13, 2009 16:09:59 GMT -5
On the flipside, the WWE screwed up a money angle in Owen Hart being the last member of the family left in the company. Yeah, I know, they did the 'Black Hart' thing, but a Owen/Shawn feud would've been money... instead of him being regulated to square off with a rookie Triple H, who was the sidekick of the stable at the time.
Who knows? Maybe Owen could've even taken the title.
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Post by Bruiser Brody on Mar 13, 2009 22:56:19 GMT -5
I almost feel like they were stuck in the middle of a pissing contest between WWF and WCW.
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Post by Dwight on Mar 13, 2009 23:20:00 GMT -5
On the flipside, the WWE screwed up a money angle in Owen Hart being the last member of the family left in the company. Yeah, I know, they did the 'Black Hart' thing, but a Owen/Shawn feud would've been money... instead of him being regulated to square off with a rookie Triple H, who was the sidekick of the stable at the time. Who knows? Maybe Owen could've even taken the title. Yeah really if there was ever a more perfect time to push Owen it was after the screwjob. I always remember the reaction he got at the Rumble...only for Double J to jump him. Then he was thrown in the Nation and all of that stuff and it was a real shame. Missed opportunity. The thing is they were ready to run with Austin and other guys. So I guess you could say it was bad timing.
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on Mar 14, 2009 0:04:40 GMT -5
On the flipside, the WWE screwed up a money angle in Owen Hart being the last member of the family left in the company. Yeah, I know, they did the 'Black Hart' thing, but a Owen/Shawn feud would've been money... instead of him being regulated to square off with a rookie Triple H, who was the sidekick of the stable at the time. Who knows? Maybe Owen could've even taken the title. Owen couldn't have taken the title. There was no way that a Hart was going to be world champion a couple of months after the screwjob. There would have been money in that feud, but I'm guessing that Vince/Shawn just wouldn't do it because of the animosity. Or maybe even Owen himself told them he didn't want that role. Or maybe they didn't see Owen as a money-drawing topline babyface. For whatever reason, it just wasn't going to happen. Which makes me wonder why they bothered doing the Owen run-in on Shawn's match at the DX PPV.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2009 4:50:51 GMT -5
Owen as champ.....bad timing because Austin was the man at the time but I guess he could have won it from HBK at IYH:DX then dropped it at RR.........but I doubt HBK would have went for it
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