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Post by jayjay on Oct 29, 2008 11:13:34 GMT -5
This man knows what hes talking about. he's obviously too focused on TNA's new HD set to make sense of any other wrestling related items. MVP has never looked good in a wrestling match, aside from with Benoit and Punk. LOL, you're actually saying that what CM Punk has done in the WWE is better than what MVP has done in the WWE? MVP has had brilliant matches since he joined it. CM Punk has had what? 4? and they were all with John Morrison. MVP has had great matches with guys like Batista, Hardy, Flair, and even Domino. Having the US title for a year and the Tag Team titles in the progress > winning the ECW title, a tag team title and being a pushover of a World Champion. |
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Post by Matthew Stovell on Oct 29, 2008 15:27:20 GMT -5
he's obviously too focused on TNA's new HD set to make sense of any other wrestling related items. MVP has never looked good in a wrestling match, aside from with Benoit and Punk. LOL, you're actually saying that what CM Punk has done in the WWE is better than what MVP has done in the WWE? MVP has had brilliant matches since he joined it. CM Punk has had what? 4? and they were all with John Morrison. MVP has had great matches with guys like Batista, Hardy, Flair, and even Domino. Having the US title for a year and the Tag Team titles in the progress > winning the ECW title, a tag team title and being a pushover of a World Champion. at no point in that post did i say CM Punk has done better than MVP, even though it is true. i basically said MVP's only matches in which IMHO he has looked even slightly worth his wwe job, is in his matches with Benoit and Punk, in which is so obvious, he was carried through. Doing nothing with the second tier championship from Dec 07 to April 08 is hardly an achievement. |
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Post by Hollywood QJD on Oct 29, 2008 16:10:06 GMT -5
I was right.......HHH buried MVP at No mercy. The Bastard.
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Post by LAXxxx305 on Oct 29, 2008 16:13:06 GMT -5
Yeah... no. They've got a chance to build a FUTURE superstar yet they constally job him out. He can talk and wrestle but they keep jjobbing him out week in and week out. Yeah...no he really, really can't wrestle. Really he just can't. Yeah, Like Bret Hart can wrestler, now or then. I agree with you Creed 110%. |
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Post by Matthew Stovell on Oct 29, 2008 16:23:41 GMT -5
Yeah...no he really, really can't wrestle. Really he just can't. Yeah, Like Bret Hart can wrestler, now or then. I agree with you Creed 110%. Did you really just say Bret Hart can't wrestle, but you are arguing that MVP can wrestle? where's the Star Trek facepalm picture when you need it. this'll have to do  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2008 18:32:48 GMT -5
MVP's boring to watch and listen to.
He can wrestle just fine, but he sucks at making wrestling interesting.
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Post by S on Oct 29, 2008 19:14:45 GMT -5
Yeah...no he really, really can't wrestle. Really he just can't. And I guess you really can't see.  Bollocks to MVP... i want Super Crazy dammit  |
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Post by tnafan4life on Oct 29, 2008 19:36:01 GMT -5
This man knows what hes talking about. he's obviously too focused on TNA's new HD set to make sense of any other wrestling related items. MVP has never looked good in a wrestling match, aside from with Benoit and Punk. Awwww. A TNA shot how cute.  |
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Post by jayjay on Oct 29, 2008 21:38:19 GMT -5
LOL, you're actually saying that what CM Punk has done in the WWE is better than what MVP has done in the WWE? MVP has had brilliant matches since he joined it. CM Punk has had what? 4? and they were all with John Morrison. MVP has had great matches with guys like Batista, Hardy, Flair, and even Domino. Having the US title for a year and the Tag Team titles in the progress > winning the ECW title, a tag team title and being a pushover of a World Champion. at no point in that post did i say CM Punk has done better than MVP, even though it is true. i basically said MVP's only matches in which IMHO he has looked even slightly worth his wwe job, is in his matches with Benoit and Punk, in which is so obvious, he was carried through. Doing nothing with the second tier championship from Dec 07 to April 08 is hardly an achievement. Um... He won it in May 2007 and lost it in April 2008... how is being the longest reigning WWE United States Champion NOT an achievement? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2008 22:43:33 GMT -5
Yeah, Like Bret Hart can wrestler, now or then.
I agree with you Creed 110%. Did you really just say Bret Hart can't wrestle, but you are arguing that MVP can wrestle? where's the Star Trek facepalm picture when you need it. this'll have to do Thanks bro, seriously I dont know why people post such non sense like what I just bold faced. |
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Oct 29, 2008 23:24:31 GMT -5
he's obviously too focused on TNA's new HD set to make sense of any other wrestling related items. MVP has never looked good in a wrestling match, aside from with Benoit and Punk. LOL, you're actually saying that what CM Punk has done in the WWE is better than what MVP has done in the WWE? MVP has had brilliant matches since he joined it. CM Punk has had what? 4? and they were all with John Morrison. MVP has had great matches with guys like Batista, Hardy, Flair, and even Domino. Having the US title for a year and the Tag Team titles in the progress > winning the ECW title, a tag team title and being a pushover of a World Champion. Wrong - Punk has also had great matches with Edge, Jericho, Regal and Chavo - all of which trump most of MVP's matches.. Of course Punk has been more successful - he's already been champion of a brand (which he basically carried), and the top champion, on the number one brand in the company, and has now been given the tag belt.. MVP has held one mid-card title (that he hardly defended), and a tag-title.. The key words are World Champion.. Punk has already been WHC.. I might be wrong, but I don't recall MVP ever holding a world title in the WWE - and last time I checked, Punk wasn't jobbing to Funaki.. So, to summarise... Punk: ECW Champion (could be classed as world champion) MITB winner at WM World Heavyweight Champion World Tag-Team Champion MVP: US Champion WWE Tag-Team Champion Game, set & match.. |
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Post by jayjay on Oct 29, 2008 23:53:20 GMT -5
LOL, you're actually saying that what CM Punk has done in the WWE is better than what MVP has done in the WWE? MVP has had brilliant matches since he joined it. CM Punk has had what? 4? and they were all with John Morrison. MVP has had great matches with guys like Batista, Hardy, Flair, and even Domino. Having the US title for a year and the Tag Team titles in the progress > winning the ECW title, a tag team title and being a pushover of a World Champion. Wrong - Punk has also had great matches with Edge, Jericho, Regal and Chavo - all of which trump most of MVP's matches.. Of course Punk has been more sucessful - he's already been champion of a brand (which he basically carried), and the top champion, on the number one brand in the company, and has now been given the tag belt.. MVP has held one mid-card title (that he hardly defended), and a tag-title.. The key words are World Champion.. Punk has already been WHC.. I might be wrong, but I don't recall MVP ever holding a world title in the WWE - and last time I checked, Punk wasn't jobbing to Funaki.. So, to summarise... Punk: ECW Champion (could be classed as world champion) MITB winner at WM World Heavyweight Champion World Tag-Team Champion MVP: US Champion WWE Tag-Team Champion Game, set & match.. Um, I gave Morrison as an example because he was the ONLY wrestler he had a good match with who wasn't better than him. Punk didn't carry a thing when he was world champion, he wasn't even in the main event, Cena and Batista's feud was the hottest thing on RAW while he was jobbing to Jericho and getting stiffed by Regal. Besides, you're not the one to talk about MVP jobbing to anybody, Punk has jobbed to Hardcore Holly for christ sake. I'd take going down in history as the longest reigning WWE US champ in history over being one of the biggest fluke champions in recent history. And by fluke, I mean won it so the belt could go to RAW and so a heel could take it from a face . You're arguing with yourself to be honest. There is no argument at all, the only good thing CM Punk won was the ECW title, he wouldn't even be this years MITB if Jeff didn't get busted. He would be a one time ECW champ and a one time Tag Team champ. hell, he would probably still be on ECW as we speak. |
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Post by tnafan4life on Oct 30, 2008 0:05:26 GMT -5
Last time I checked Punk was almost a jobber as world champion..
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Oct 30, 2008 0:05:37 GMT -5
Wrong - Punk has also had great matches with Edge, Jericho, Regal and Chavo - all of which trump most of MVP's matches.. Of course Punk has been more sucessful - he's already been champion of a brand (which he basically carried), and the top champion, on the number one brand in the company, and has now been given the tag belt.. MVP has held one mid-card title (that he hardly defended), and a tag-title.. The key words are World Champion.. Punk has already been WHC.. I might be wrong, but I don't recall MVP ever holding a world title in the WWE - and last time I checked, Punk wasn't jobbing to Funaki.. So, to summarise... Punk: ECW Champion (could be classed as world champion) MITB winner at WM World Heavyweight Champion World Tag-Team Champion MVP: US Champion WWE Tag-Team Champion Game, set & match.. Um, I gave Morrison as an example because he was the ONLY wrestler he had a good match with who wasn't better than him. Punk didn't carry a thing when he was world champion, he wasn't even in the main event, Cena and Batista's feud was the hottest thing on RAW while he was jobbing to Jericho and getting stiffed by Regal. Besides, you're not the one to talk about MVP jobbing to anybody, Punk has jobbed to Hardcore Holly for christ sake. I'd take going down in history as the longest reigning WWE US champ in history over being one of the biggest fluke champions in recent history. And by fluke, I mean won it so the belt could go to RAW and so a heel could take it from a face . You're arguing with yourself to be honest. There is no argument at all, the only good thing CM Punk won was the ECW title, he wouldn't even be this years MITB if Jeff didn't get busted. He would be a one time ECW champ and a one time Tag Team champ. hell, he would probably still be on ECW as we speak. When I said Punk carried a brand, I was referring to ECW, not RAW.. Punk only lost to Holly because of backstage politics - and even so, Holly still has more credibiity than Funaki.. As for him winning MITB only because Jeff screwed up.. maybe so, but they didn't have to give it to him - they could have easily given it to Jericho, Kennedy or even your beloved, MVP - but they didn't.. There is no argument - I'm just telling you like it is.. |
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Post by jayjay on Oct 30, 2008 0:19:31 GMT -5
Um, I gave Morrison as an example because he was the ONLY wrestler he had a good match with who wasn't better than him. Punk didn't carry a thing when he was world champion, he wasn't even in the main event, Cena and Batista's feud was the hottest thing on RAW while he was jobbing to Jericho and getting stiffed by Regal. Besides, you're not the one to talk about MVP jobbing to anybody, Punk has jobbed to Hardcore Holly for christ sake. I'd take going down in history as the longest reigning WWE US champ in history over being one of the biggest fluke champions in recent history. And by fluke, I mean won it so the belt could go to RAW and so a heel could take it from a face . You're arguing with yourself to be honest. There is no argument at all, the only good thing CM Punk won was the ECW title, he wouldn't even be this years MITB if Jeff didn't get busted. He would be a one time ECW champ and a one time Tag Team champ. hell, he would probably still be on ECW as we speak. When I said Punk carried a brand, I was referring to ECW, not RAW.. Punk only lost to Holly because of backstage politics - and even so, Holly still has more credibiity than Funaki.. As for him winning MITB only because Jeff screwed up.. maybe so, but they didn't have to give it to him - they could have easily given it to Jericho, Kennedy or even your beloved, MVP - but they didn't.. There is no argument - I'm just telling you like it is.. What sense would it make to give the money in the bank to MVP who was jumping right into a feud with Hardy... who interfered in that match to begin with. Jericho was set for a feud with Shawn and Kennedy was finishing his movie... who else would they give it to? Carlito? Benjamin? Um no. Punk is all they had. |
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Post by tnafan4life on Oct 30, 2008 0:27:13 GMT -5
When I said Punk carried a brand, I was referring to ECW, not RAW.. Punk only lost to Holly because of backstage politics - and even so, Holly still has more credibiity than Funaki.. As for him winning MITB only because Jeff screwed up.. maybe so, but they didn't have to give it to him - they could have easily given it to Jericho, Kennedy or even your beloved, MVP - but they didn't.. There is no argument - I'm just telling you like it is.. What sense would it make to give the money in the bank to MVP who was jumping right into a feud with Hardy... who interfered in that match to begin with. Jericho was set for a feud with Shawn and Kennedy was finishing his movie... who else would they give it to? Carlito? Benjamin? Um no. Punk is all they had. Exactly. Punk was the only one who could actually work the full "champion" schedule. In the year (or whatever it was) that M.V.P was a "mid card champion" he showed me more than Punk did as a main event champion. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2008 1:17:25 GMT -5
Wow , is SmackDown so desperate that they need to put a casket match on the weekly card ? Not to be an ass against SD fans but ...
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Post by Likwid[[Southern]] on Oct 30, 2008 8:47:37 GMT -5
MVP had the US Title from May 2007 to April 2008.
For how much of that time has he out injured?
CONSTANTLY.
When did he defend it?
NEVER.
It's simple. I've said it since Wrestlemania 23. The only way MVP will ever look good is to wrestle Benoit.
He's subpar in the ring. Kennedy was leagues better than MVP, sans his matches against Michaels which were atrocious.
MVP will be released by the end of 2009.
Bank on it.
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Post by Matthew Stovell on Oct 30, 2008 9:15:46 GMT -5
at no point in that post did i say CM Punk has done better than MVP, even though it is true. i basically said MVP's only matches in which IMHO he has looked even slightly worth his wwe job, is in his matches with Benoit and Punk, in which is so obvious, he was carried through. Doing nothing with the second tier championship from Dec 07 to April 08 is hardly an achievement. Um... He won it in May 2007 and lost it in April 2008... how is being the longest reigning WWE United States Champion NOT an achievement? yeah, but from December last year he did bugger all with the belt, until losing it at Backlash. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2008 10:44:52 GMT -5
MVP had the US Title from May 2007 to April 2008. For how much of that time has he out injured? CONSTANTLY. When did he defend it? NEVER. It's simple. I've said it since Wrestlemania 23. The only way MVP will ever look good is to wrestle Benoit. He's subpar in the ring. Kennedy was leagues better than MVP, sans his matches against Michaels which were atrocious. MVP will be released by the end of 2009. Bank on it. Although I'm not big on Kennedy, your analysis of MVP is absolutely correct. He's terrible and always relied on the talent working with him to look good. +1 for you. |
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