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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2008 22:29:12 GMT -5
Really wish all four of these guys would jump ship and join TNA all at the same time. I'd love to see them start their own stable and run things over there.
Carlito:
had all the talent in the world. He was doing amazing in the ring and great on the mic. So of course WWE burries him for "being too complacent at the midcard level" just when he was showing huge improvements....then when he shows he cares, by announcing his frustrations by being left off Mania...they burry him for good. Vince asks him to stay, only to lie about promises he made. ScrewJob2.0
Benjamin:
great worker. needs a manager who can speak but thats fine...the only thing they ever tried was giving him a comedian as his mama. if they really wanted to make it work they'd give him a true manager and let him do his thing. all i ever hear is how wwe hopes he steps up to the plate and lifts his matches to better quality. really?? seems like crap to me and he should bail...he'd have longer time to structure matches and make WWE look like fools for what they've done to him. he and carlito mesh better together than anyone i've seen in a long time -- they should have had all kinds of ladder matches by now, maybe in TNA.
Burke:
another great worker...who knows why he's not on tv. jump ship before it's too late!! he's not bein used and shoulda been ECW champ by now, so why not.
Foley:
dont even need to say anything bout this guy...vince treats people like crap and hope he does great in TNA if he actually goes. might be a swerve but who knows.
Anyways, really wana watch these guys at their best and dont think WWE will let them ever accomplish that. I dont watch TNA but I'd stop watchin WWE if they went.
What does everybody else think??
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Post by Johnny on Aug 13, 2008 22:34:49 GMT -5
Last I checked, Benjamin is the United States champion, no reason why he should leave.
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Post by tnafan4life on Aug 13, 2008 22:36:43 GMT -5
Yeah, just what TNA needs. More "talent"  |
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Post by Joey Cush on Aug 13, 2008 22:40:20 GMT -5
Yeah, just what TNA needs. More "talent" Are you trying to say that they aren't "good enough" for TNA? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2008 22:40:37 GMT -5
not just talent...they're stars
US Champ yeah, but he shoulda had the WORLD TITLE and they'll prob never pull the trigger on that....if they do, prob one time transitional champ
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Aug 13, 2008 22:40:46 GMT -5
Burke isn't o TV because he was hit by a car... Not saying he'd be on TV anyway... but that certainly hurts things...
And Foley hasn't been treated like crap. Most of his success is owed to WWE. The simple fact is that Vince likes directing the commentators, and foley feels that he can't be creative in that situation.
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Post by tnafan4life on Aug 13, 2008 22:43:07 GMT -5
Burke isn't o TV because he was hit by a car... Not saying he'd be on TV anyway... but that certainly hurts things... And Foley hasn't been treated like crap. Most of his success is owed to WWE. The simple fact is that Vince likes directing the commentators, and foley feels that he can't be creative in that situation. Burke worked a dark matches before SD/ECW Tuesday I think. |
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Post by cenaroxorz123 on Aug 13, 2008 22:45:41 GMT -5
Burke isn't o TV because he was hit by a car... Not saying he'd be on TV anyway... but that certainly hurts things... That turned out to be false. |
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Aug 13, 2008 22:50:48 GMT -5
I could see the top 3 jumping ship mostly because they are really just floundering.
Foley jumping ship seemed possible last year when apparently he came close to doing so. But this year... I don't know. Plus really what could Foley do for TNA save be a manager?
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Post by btdwnf on Aug 13, 2008 22:57:51 GMT -5
Burke isn't o TV because he was hit by a car... Not saying he'd be on TV anyway... but that certainly hurts things... That turned out to be false. Really I did not know that. *Spoiler* Elijah is back in a dark match.  |
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Post by 49% Motherf**ker, 51% SOB on Aug 14, 2008 0:12:07 GMT -5
Really wish all four of these guys would jump ship and join TNA all at the same time. I'd love to see them start their own stable and run things over there. Carlito: had all the talent in the world. He was doing amazing in the ring and great on the mic. So of course WWE burries him for "being too complacent at the midcard level" just when he was showing huge improvements....then when he shows he cares, by announcing his frustrations by being left off Mania...they burry him for good. Vince asks him to stay, only to lie about promises he made. ScrewJob2.0 Benjamin: great worker. needs a manager who can speak but thats fine...the only thing they ever tried was giving him a comedian as his mama. if they really wanted to make it work they'd give him a true manager and let him do his thing. all i ever hear is how wwe hopes he steps up to the plate and lifts his matches to better quality. really?? seems like crap to me and he should bail...he'd have longer time to structure matches and make WWE look like fools for what they've done to him. he and carlito mesh better together than anyone i've seen in a long time -- they should have had all kinds of ladder matches by now, maybe in TNA. Burke: another great worker...who knows why he's not on tv. jump ship before it's too late!! he's not bein used and shoulda been ECW champ by now, so why not. Foley: dont even need to say anything bout this guy...vince treats people like crap and hope he does great in TNA if he actually goes. might be a swerve but who knows. Anyways, really wana watch these guys at their best and dont think WWE will let them ever accomplish that. I dont watch TNA but I'd stop watchin WWE if they went. What does everybody else think?? Why does everyone think TNA is just the best place for "talent"? They misuse their own talent nonstop!!! If your not a WWE reject your no good to them. Carlito is great on the mic, but thats about it. Benjamin has zero charisma and a bad attitude. Never seen Burke really wrestle so I can't comment on him. Foley is great, but I think going to TNA will only hurt his legacy. TNA is not competition! WWE has no competition! Him going to TNA would be the same if Alex Rodriguez doesn't to leave the Yankees from a minor league team. |
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Post by Heresy on Aug 14, 2008 0:50:18 GMT -5
TNA is no longer the safe haven for talented workers, and hasn't been for quite a while.
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Post by Villa on Aug 14, 2008 4:17:41 GMT -5
Really wish all four of these guys would jump ship and join TNA all at the same time. I'd love to see them start their own stable and run things over there. Carlito: had all the talent in the world. He was doing amazing in the ring and great on the mic. So of course WWE burries him for "being too complacent at the midcard level" just when he was showing huge improvements....then when he shows he cares, by announcing his frustrations by being left off Mania...they burry him for good. Vince asks him to stay, only to lie about promises he made. ScrewJob2.0 Benjamin: great worker. needs a manager who can speak but thats fine...the only thing they ever tried was giving him a comedian as his mama. if they really wanted to make it work they'd give him a true manager and let him do his thing. all i ever hear is how wwe hopes he steps up to the plate and lifts his matches to better quality. really?? seems like crap to me and he should bail...he'd have longer time to structure matches and make WWE look like fools for what they've done to him. he and carlito mesh better together than anyone i've seen in a long time -- they should have had all kinds of ladder matches by now, maybe in TNA. Burke: another great worker...who knows why he's not on tv. jump ship before it's too late!! he's not bein used and shoulda been ECW champ by now, so why not. Foley: dont even need to say anything bout this guy...vince treats people like crap and hope he does great in TNA if he actually goes. might be a swerve but who knows. Anyways, really wana watch these guys at their best and dont think WWE will let them ever accomplish that. I dont watch TNA but I'd stop watchin WWE if they went. What does everybody else think?? Carlito is great on the mic, but thats about it. Benjamin has zero charisma and a bad attitude.Never seen Burke really wrestle so I can't comment on him. Foley is great, but I think going to TNA will only hurt his legacy. TNA is not competition! WWE has no competition! Him going to TNA would be the same if Alex Rodriguez doesn't to leave the Yankees from a minor league team. Joe, AJ, Lethal, Williams Creed and LAX. Serioz? |
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Post by pineappleexpress on Aug 14, 2008 4:19:52 GMT -5
not just talent...they're stars US Champ yeah, but he shoulda had the WORLD TITLE and they'll prob never pull the trigger on that....if they do, prob one time transitional champ Shelton is far from a star. He shouldn't be near the World Title. It's like watching stale bread doing flips - which is cool in gimmick matches, but no way he could bolster a show as its champion. |
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Post by reallypeevedoff on Aug 14, 2008 4:49:03 GMT -5
Yeah, just what TNA needs. More "talent" I agree with that, How about TNA utilize who they have first. if they keep bringing in all these Ex wwe Guys, it will end up with guys like Joe, Styles, Sting, Storm, Kong etc. all leaving to find a place where they can actually be used more. why, because every fan thinks that if your not being used to their liking in the WWE, they would automatically Fare better in TNA. TNA is like a Cartoon version of WCW, which in itself was a cartoon version of WWE at the time. |
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Post by DTP. on Aug 14, 2008 4:56:32 GMT -5
I hate people who say that talented wrestlers all belong to TNA, WWE needs some good wrestlers, otherwise HBK would be in a random assembling with AJ Styles in a tag team/uneasy alliance.
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Post by deskjet on Aug 14, 2008 12:43:12 GMT -5
I think if tna is gonna bring in anymore talent they need another show. they're clustered already and have too mcuh talent not being used. You know who headlines tna...Sting, Booker T, Team 3d, Kevin NAsh, Kurt Angle...and oh Samoe joe and AJ just for shyts and giggles. When was the last time tna had a non wwe guy other than AJ/Joe as a headline. TNA need creativity and adding benjamin and carltio, butke, foly, will do nothing but cluster stuff up more till they put the belt on one of then
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Post by AKI Man on Aug 14, 2008 14:15:39 GMT -5
i know they should all go to tna & be the new radicalz with mick foley as their mentor
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Post by rockbottom42385 on Aug 14, 2008 14:16:12 GMT -5
Really wish all four of these guys would jump ship and join TNA all at the same time. I'd love to see them start their own stable and run things over there. Carlito: had all the talent in the world. He was doing amazing in the ring and great on the mic. So of course WWE burries him for "being too complacent at the midcard level" just when he was showing huge improvements....then when he shows he cares, by announcing his frustrations by being left off Mania...they burry him for good. Vince asks him to stay, only to lie about promises he made. ScrewJob2.0 Benjamin: great worker. needs a manager who can speak but thats fine...the only thing they ever tried was giving him a comedian as his mama. if they really wanted to make it work they'd give him a true manager and let him do his thing. all i ever hear is how wwe hopes he steps up to the plate and lifts his matches to better quality. really?? seems like crap to me and he should bail...he'd have longer time to structure matches and make WWE look like fools for what they've done to him. he and carlito mesh better together than anyone i've seen in a long time -- they should have had all kinds of ladder matches by now, maybe in TNA. Burke: another great worker...who knows why he's not on tv. jump ship before it's too late!! he's not bein used and shoulda been ECW champ by now, so why not. Foley: dont even need to say anything bout this guy...vince treats people like crap and hope he does great in TNA if he actually goes. might be a swerve but who knows. Anyways, really wana watch these guys at their best and dont think WWE will let them ever accomplish that. I dont watch TNA but I'd stop watchin WWE if they went. What does everybody else think?? Foley had the greatest run of his career thanks to the WWE, that's a fact. He is technically retired since 2000, and as we know has had a match here or there since then, plus a great run as the commissioner. Being a color commentator now is the perfect thing for Foley, his career is pretty much done. |
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Post by 49% Motherf**ker, 51% SOB on Aug 14, 2008 15:05:49 GMT -5
i know they should all go to tna & be the new radicalz with mick foley as their mentor None of them are half as talented as the original radicalz. Maybe Perry Saturn, but not even close to the rest of the group. |
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