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Post by miserere on Jul 6, 2008 3:31:13 GMT -5
How scripted are wrestling matches? I know they plan out the big spots and the conclusions, but other than that are the wrestlers on their own as to what moves/holds they do or what? I'd imagine planning out and remembering a 30-minute pay-per-view match would be difficult.
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Post by skribbel24 on Jul 6, 2008 3:34:38 GMT -5
I think some matches are well thought out from bell to bell. I read that Randy Savage is one of the guys who prefer to lay out everything and practice it before a big match.
Some guys just call the match as they go along.
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Post by Happy Pizza on Jul 6, 2008 3:35:41 GMT -5
Yeah, I dunno about newer guys, but Ric Flair claims he and a lot of older guys like Ricky Steamboat could just make it up as they go along and create epic matches.
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Post by Mark on Jul 6, 2008 3:36:11 GMT -5
Traditionally, i think rookies plan out things while the vets call it on a fly
and vets usually take control with rooks
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Post by BØRNS on Jul 6, 2008 4:06:30 GMT -5
it's hard to tell sometimes, but you can see that some are very obvious (usually with the cruiser-style matches)
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Post by commish13 on Jul 6, 2008 6:20:21 GMT -5
it's hard to tell sometimes, but you can see that some are very obvious (usually with the cruiser-style matches) Uh, way to be completely unable to make any kind of point. Are you saying it's obvious they're very scripted or obvious that they aren't? |
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Post by Triple S on Jul 6, 2008 6:50:18 GMT -5
Your are completely correct with the fact that major spots and the finish of the match are scripted and well planned out. The rest of the match however, for good wrestlers (that know how to put on a match), call the match while out there. The "white noise" (crowd noise) is the reason why most of the time, we don't hear the moves being called.
Now, as for who calls the moves/match. A veteran will always call the match. However, if the both men have pretty much the same amount of years experience, the heel will call the match.
So it's pretty much: Heel veteran > Face Veteran > Whoever else. But i've also been told that some of the veterans will sometimes give the "rookie" the opportunity to call the match, to learn more of the psychology of the ring.
- Triple S
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Post by theroborton on Jul 6, 2008 8:02:13 GMT -5
Triple H calls every single match he is in... It's all I ever look out for when watching him... seriously, next time watch him, his mouth's running a riot when he's picking them up from the canvas or giving them the "talking" punches
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Jul 6, 2008 8:28:09 GMT -5
I suppose it all depends on who's in the match.
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Post by commish13 on Jul 6, 2008 8:37:59 GMT -5
Triple H calls every single match he is in... It's all I ever look out for when watching him... seriously, next time watch him, his mouth's running a riot when he's picking them up from the canvas or giving them the "talking" punches At One Night Stand, Orton may have been calling their match. Maybe not the whole thing, but he did call the spot where he got injured. |
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Post by Triple S on Jul 6, 2008 9:12:43 GMT -5
Triple H calls every single match he is in... It's all I ever look out for when watching him... seriously, next time watch him, his mouth's running a riot when he's picking them up from the canvas or giving them the "talking" punches Triple H would normally not be calling a match against The Undertaker, Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, or anyone else that has more years experience than him... unless they wanted him to. - Triple S |
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Post by acr93 on Jul 6, 2008 9:47:59 GMT -5
I was just thinking about this the other day. Thanks for the help Triple S:
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Post by f1gh7er on Jul 6, 2008 11:24:08 GMT -5
kevan nash in one of his shoot interviews i saw says that he just knew the finish and would make it up as he went. so i guess it just depends on whos in it
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Post by TeamExtreme718x on Jul 6, 2008 11:33:19 GMT -5
Its called Headlocks and resthold..The wrestlers comminucate in there..Its not that hard to come up with a chain right then and there..And then actually do it..
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Post by Wago on Jul 6, 2008 12:45:04 GMT -5
No match is exactly the same on how much detail is put in. And example is, personally me, I don't like to put that much work in to the match, so I don't forget spots. Wrestlers can pretty much comunicate with a whisper or quiet voice any time there near each other, just to remind each other. Headlocks are often used to go over forgotten things to. Some wrestlers go in with only the ending planned and work from there, a match is in stages such as. Shine - Face gets his chance to look good. Heat - Heel works on them. Hope Spot - Face comes back, gets cut off. More Heat - Explains it self. Hope Spot 2 - Same again with more impactful moves. More heat or straight on to the next stage. Fire Up - Face gets his fire and goes all crazy getting in high impactful moves and such. Finish - Ending of the match I may have some mixed up, but thats basicaly how a match goes, things can be re-arranged and taken out, this way it makes it easier for the wrestlers to remember what there doing before they go out, really you only need to plan the faces spots, with any good heel they can just call anything in the ring. And if they lock up at the start, they can plan the WHOLE match in there as they go along. Conclusion - Different matches have different amount of planning in it. EDIT: Also this doesn't just imply to independents, some of the former WWE workers have also said they worked this way too  |
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