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Post by thejoker on Jul 1, 2008 3:08:25 GMT -5
When edge first won the wwe champion at new years revolution against john cena, that was probably one of the OMG top 10 moments in the past 5 years. It worked the ratings was good for a few weeks.
They see that the idea works and they use it again and again. Now with punk. I mean come on. The idea is dead. Can you please give us something new?
What is CM punk the new Opportunist? Is he going to have the same gimmick as Edge now? I mean come on hes a face for chirst sakes. Winning the WORLD TITLE like this makes a baby face look weak, scared, useless, and a cheater. (CM PUNK DOESN'T CHEAT TO WIN) Give US SOMETHING NEW!
You know the company can't put younger stars over when they NEED to have a Gimmick Match/Item To make them become world champion.
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Post by Deadshot on Jul 1, 2008 3:09:47 GMT -5
WWE....repetetive?!?!?!?! ...don't be silly
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Post by thejoker on Jul 1, 2008 3:12:08 GMT -5
WWE....repetetive?!?!?!?! ...don't be silly The least they can do is like what they did with RVD. Cash it in for a real match. None of this opportunity BS.
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Post by Thick Justice on Jul 1, 2008 3:12:17 GMT -5
Well I'm hoping there is a rematch on SD and Punk wins cleanly.
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Post by ppk101 on Jul 1, 2008 3:25:57 GMT -5
WWE....repetetive?!?!?!?! ...don't be silly The least they can do is like what they did with RVD. Cash it in for a real match. None of this opportunity BS. If you remember correctly, RVD won after interference from Edge, with Heyman coming in to make the 3 count. Not necessarily clean. I understand why some people think this makes Punk look weak, is more of a heel move, etc... but I disagree. I might agree if Punk pulled this on Triple H, but he has had a history with Edge. Edge cost him his ECW title, and has screwed him in the past. Also, Edge used MITB twice to win world titles, so it made sense for a face to beat Edge at his own game and outsmart the heel. Plus, Punk defeated JBL tonight after showing guts by defending his title, so he is still saving face that way as well.
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Jul 1, 2008 3:39:53 GMT -5
That's why they had him beat JBL legit. So he wont be called that. And he instead a fighters champ who will fight anyone at anytime. And had an oportunity and took it.
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Post by commish13 on Jul 1, 2008 4:21:08 GMT -5
Plus, it makes perfect sense, since Edge twice cashed in when the champion was down, and now Punk does it to him.
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Post by juggarnautmofo on Jul 1, 2008 4:35:19 GMT -5
I dont think that was a bad way for punk to win the title because he won it that way against of all people Edge.... the person who used that whole opportunist type win twice, so its like karma coming back and biting edge in the ass, and nobody really saw it coming so it was a shocker still, plus punk beating JBL later on doesnt make him look weak.
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Post by thepeopleschamp on Jul 1, 2008 5:03:30 GMT -5
I think it was kind of an irony thing where Punk beat Edge to win the belt the same way Edge beat UT and Cena for the belt
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Post by tommyglamm on Jul 1, 2008 5:10:36 GMT -5
That's why they had him beat JBL legit. So he wont be called that. And he instead a fighters champ who will fight anyone at anytime. And had an oportunity and took it. not really legit, seeing as JBL was distracted, if i am correct.
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Post by Fiasco on Jul 1, 2008 5:13:10 GMT -5
Yeah I think they should have had Punk totally squash Jbl to put him over more.
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Post by Keyboard Cat on Jul 1, 2008 5:17:06 GMT -5
Like WCW. History will repeat it's self.
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Post by scoobypat on Jul 1, 2008 6:45:35 GMT -5
Like all wrestling. History will repeat it's self. FIX'D Storylines in wrestling have always and will always repeat in some form or another, it's been this way since the begining of time. All those fantastic Attitude Era storylines were done in a different way not even 10 years prior and so on and so forth. I reccomend that everyone reads a really old wrestling book called "Whatever Happened to Gorgous George?" Not only is it really informative but it really makes you see how as a whole wrestling has not progressed much in nearly 100 years.
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Post by lytus on Jul 1, 2008 7:28:09 GMT -5
When edge first won the wwe champion at new years revolution against john cena, that was probably one of the OMG top 10 moments in the past 5 years. It worked the ratings was good for a few weeks. They see that the idea works and they use it again and again. Now with punk. I mean come on. The idea is dead. Can you please give us something new? What is CM punk the new Opportunist? Is he going to have the same gimmick as Edge now? I mean come on hes a face for chirst sakes. Winning the WORLD TITLE like this makes a baby face look weak, scared, useless, and a cheater. (CM PUNK DOESN'T CHEAT TO WIN) Give US SOMETHING NEW! You know the company can't put younger stars over when they NEED to have a Gimmick Match/Item To make them become world champion. I think it would have made him look like an idiot if there was a world champion laid out in the ring and he didn't come out and take advantage.
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Post by Suckasays on Jul 1, 2008 7:35:28 GMT -5
Well to be fair Edge is the only person to ever win the championship in that manner before Punk did. RVD cashed his in in a full fledge legit match. Now, the odds were in his favor and all. But still. It was a full match. Punk doing this in return to Edge makes sense. It's like it gives him a taste of his own medicine. Now, if they do the MITB again and the winner does the same thing...it's old.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2008 7:38:29 GMT -5
They made it like that cause none of Edge's family was around to help Edge win. So Punk seen the perfect opportunity, and cashed in.
Who cares. As long as Punk is Champ.
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Post by johnnymalloy on Jul 1, 2008 7:46:23 GMT -5
I think this whole title reign has started off very smart.
Punk adds a dose of irony to it, by winning from Edge, in a similar way Edge did. And fans love to see heels get what they deserve.
Then they have JBL challenge punk, and punk accept, than have punk go over, but not completely 100% cleanly, due to the john cena/crymetyme distraction...then punk vaults over the top rope, to continue fighting as we went off the air.
So, what we get out of it, is Punks smart and he has heart, and he wants to earn that title.
Also by having him win with these two ways, its not like he just suddenly went from midcarding to defeating maineventers with ease over night.
They are building punk pretty well...we'll see if this continues.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jul 1, 2008 8:02:09 GMT -5
Oh, whatever. If last night wasn't the perfect opportunity to cash in the title shot, then tell me what would've been..The only thing that I can think of would've been at the end of Night of Champions when Cena was beaten and out and Triple H was exausted and hurt. That would've been a perfect time to cash in too, but WWE didn't want him to. Not just yet.
So, they had him hold onto it for another night and use it on Edge last night on Raw. Well, Raw does need a World title...Personally, I loved the surprise factor. It just made it THAT much better.
No ammount of complaining/pissing and moaning from the Punk haters could get me down. I am thrilled that C.M. Punk is the new champ. If they don't like it, TOUGH. You guys should've been expecting it. I know I was.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Jul 1, 2008 9:20:25 GMT -5
Edge just got done back to him what he had done two times previously; it makes perfect sense. Plus, Punk beat JBL later in the night which helped make him look more legit.
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Post by Edge618 on Jul 1, 2008 9:52:21 GMT -5
Different? you want different? Raw has had a dominant superman character as a champion for the last 2 years in Cena and HHH. When you ordered a PPV, you knew that there probably wasnt going to be a new champion. Im glad they made Punk look weak, it makes it more exciting, and its a HUGE change from Cena and HHH. Every match CM Punk has from now on people will be wondering if he's going to win or not, instead of waiting for Cena's finishing sequence. CM Punk is an underdog, he's not the biggest guy on Raw, and to me it will make his matches more interesting.
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