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Post by JCF on Jun 16, 2008 15:39:02 GMT -5
I just think it's a damn shame what has transpired with this whole family. From the Nick crash in August, to Nick going to jail, to the divorce, wow I just cannot believe this. It's just like damn, who would've ever thought a few years ago when Hogan was Undisputed Champion we would see this whole family become this in a few years.
Now hearing the story and tapes on Tmz of the Hogans getting threatened is just crazy. I'm sorry, but I just can't believe this is what has become of the Hogan legacy.
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Post by ZMaster on Jun 16, 2008 15:40:39 GMT -5
Honestly, this has become the rise and fall of Hulk Hogan. It's just sad, nothing more can be said.
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Post by JCF on Jun 16, 2008 15:42:48 GMT -5
Honestly, this has become the rise and fall of Hulk Hogan. It's just sad, nothing more can be said. Exactly. But I hope Hogan can one day come back and just let Hulkamania run wild for another night,
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Post by Graze on Jun 16, 2008 15:43:46 GMT -5
They have no one else to blame but themselves. I feel no pity for them what so ever.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Jun 16, 2008 15:47:49 GMT -5
Well, Jason Bateman has had a fairly successful career in sitcoms (specifically Arrested Development) and movies (most recently Hancock). Sandy Duncan hasn't done anything in 7 years. Josh Taylor had a long run on Days of Our Lives. And Luis Ponce and Jeremy Licht kind of disappeared off the face of the earth in 1993.
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Jun 16, 2008 15:49:32 GMT -5
What has become of them? The Hogan's are self serving and annoying. Brooke is a terrible singer and her career is going nowhere fast. Hulk is pretty much washed up and anytime he's on WWE TV I turn the channel. Nick Hogan proved how big his ego was on the leaked tapes by saying he wants a reality show and calls himself a celebrity. He's not a celebrity, at all. Paris Hilton has done more to warrant a celebrity status, she's at least done movies. Nick has appeared in a crapty "reality" show. It's not sad either, they did it all to themselves.
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Jun 16, 2008 16:09:34 GMT -5
Well, Jason Bateman has had a fairly successful career in sitcoms (specifically Arrested Development) and movies (most recently Hancock). Sandy Duncan hasn't done anything in 7 years. Josh Taylor had a long run on Days of Our Lives. And Luis Ponce and Jeremy Licht kind of disappeared off the face of the earth in 1993. It took me a few minutes, but I got it. Nice one.
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Post by scoobypat on Jun 16, 2008 16:37:37 GMT -5
I just listened to the threat tape, pretty scare stuff. I have to sympathize with Hulk a little, I feel like he's one of the only ones in the family who's sincere on some level.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Jun 16, 2008 17:25:13 GMT -5
it is a shame, exacerbated by a predatory media. nick is a piece of crap, there is no denying that. linda is a gold digging whore. beyond that, i dont think that hulk and brooke deserve any of the $#!tstorm. what hogan said on those tapes, i may have said the same thing if my son were in solitary confinement. regardless of what all of you retards who hate hogan solely because he was the greatest businessman in wrestling, this goes far beyond what you would call kharma. this is a case of "when it rains, it pours", because it is. as far as i am concerned, graziano should have been wearing his seatbelt. the more people make him out to be an innocent martyr, the less sympathy i feel. he is 23, he had been in iraq. the moron should have been smart enough to wear a damn seatbelt. his fatther who was never present in johns life before the tragedy now has to come out and make threats, making himself look like a common thug. the media only looks at the shallow surface, as is always the case, so they will fan the flames until the next story comes out, and they will ALWAYS be against hogan. i think no less of hogan than i ever did. while all of you other fickle sheep listen to all of the sound bytes taken out of context or seemingly heartless, think about what we have. a son and a father. considering hogan disintegrated his body for 30 years while wrestling, i would call that hard earned money. hogan will likely take a nasty hit from this because of graziano's greedy family who see a quick payday available. he should be looking at his money options, and considering his age and the shape of his body, wrestling should not have to be one of them. one of the only stars of that era to not only make a great living, but also manage to stay clean and survive, only going through his first divorce, from a nasty bottom feeding whore. how many wives has flair had? 4? and he beat the one. austin had 3 and he beat them all! the people i have no sympathy for is the grazianos. fact, john was stupid for not wearing a seatbelt. fact, frank was not a part of johns life until now. hmmmm? fact, nick is a complete jackass and deserves to be where he is. regardless of all of you who are pissed at hogan for making himself the most money and the most marketable star ever and just looking for reasons to dump on him and have no sympathy, you are the heartless ones. nick was wearing a seatbelt. if john was, it would just be a fender bender caused by a couple of cool-shots who had no regard for the other drivers, and they would have recieved their deserved cuts, scrapes, and sprains, but because john chose not to wear a seatbelt in a car that he was the passenger of numerous occasions previously with nick speeding like an ass, same scenario, but john is now a victim? no bueno. im not eating that bowl of bull$#!t. i have no sympathy for nick whatsoever, but also have no sympathy for the grazianos. i feel sorry for hulk!!!!!
*edit* i guess the father's name is edward, he was not a part of johns life before the incident. frank is just the estranged half brother.
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Post by missedgehead on Jun 16, 2008 17:37:14 GMT -5
Hard to feel sorry for just about anyone in this entire mess if you ask me. I have a hard time feeling sorry for the Hogan family because they chose to be celebrities and all, so they should know that there are pitfalls that can come with being famous. Hard to sympathize with Nick, for example because he was stupid enough to be careless with his car. Hard to sympathize with Linda....is she a money grubber? Maybe. Maybe not. Not for me to judge. I sure as heck do not sympathize with Hogan himself. Poor parent. Also, the fact that he was a well known politician backstage in WWE and WCW, well, he should know that "you reap what you sow." or as the other saying goes, "karma is a you know what". I was very upset that he said that God was punished the Graziano kid. Since Hogan claims he is a Christian, he should know that is not true at all. I do feel bad that the Graziano kid is not able to walk , but I do feel he should have worn his seatbelt.
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Post by Thick Justice on Jun 16, 2008 17:59:40 GMT -5
it is a shame, exacerbated by a predatory media. nick is a piece of crap, there is no denying that. linda is a gold digging whore. beyond that, i dont think that hulk and brooke deserve any of the $#!tstorm. what hogan said on those tapes, i may have said the same thing if my son were in solitary confinement. regardless of what all of you retards who hate hogan solely because he was the greatest businessman in wrestling, this goes far beyond what you would call kharma. this is a case of "when it rains, it pours", because it is. as far as i am concerned, graziano should have been wearing his seatbelt. the more people make him out to be an innocent martyr, the less sympathy i feel. he is 23, he had been in iraq. the moron should have been smart enough to wear a damn seatbelt. his fatther who was never present in johns life before the tragedy now has to come out and make threats, making himself look like a common thug. the media only looks at the shallow surface, as is always the case, so they will fan the flames until the next story comes out, and they will ALWAYS be against hogan. i think no less of hogan than i ever did. while all of you other fickle sheep listen to all of the sound bytes taken out of context or seemingly heartless, think about what we have. a son and a father. considering hogan disintegrated his body for 30 years while wrestling, i would call that hard earned money. hogan will likely take a nasty hit from this because of graziano's greedy family who see a quick payday available. he should be looking at his money options, and considering his age and the shape of his body, wrestling should not have to be one of them. one of the only stars of that era to not only make a great living, but also manage to stay clean and survive, only going through his first divorce, from a nasty bottom feeding whore. how many wives has flair had? 4? and he beat the one. austin had 3 and he beat them all! the people i have no sympathy for is the grazianos. fact, john was stupid for not wearing a seatbelt. fact, frank was not a part of johns life until now. hmmmm? fact, nick is a complete jackass and deserves to be where he is. regardless of all of you who are pissed at hogan for making himself the most money and the most marketable star ever and just looking for reasons to dump on him and have no sympathy, you are the heartless ones. nick was wearing a seatbelt. if john was, it would just be a fender bender caused by a couple of cool-shots who had no regard for the other drivers, and they would have recieved their deserved cuts, scrapes, and sprains, but because john chose not to wear a seatbelt in a car that he was the passenger of numerous occasions previously with nick speeding like an ass, same scenario, but john is now a victim? no bueno. im not eating that bowl of bull$#!t. i have no sympathy for nick whatsoever, but also have no sympathy for the grazianos. i feel sorry for hulk!!!!! I mostly agree with whats in blue. I have too disagree with whats in Red. The first part. These dumbass wrestling news site made that part up. It is not being investigated as if it was hiss father it was his older half brother from his moms first marriage or something like that. "Stay clean" Hogan has admitted too massive amounts of steroids. That is why his body is in worse shape than flairs. John is sorta a victim but not completely. Hulk however is in no way the victim. There was alcohol found in nicks body. Hulk had bought some earlier that day. Either hulk let him or wasn't careful and he snuck some. Persons at fault IMO are Nick and Linda. Linda was and maybe still is a huge drag race fan. She said in that video she loves it. Hulk and Linda should of both put an end too Nicks drag racind and speeding by over 40 miles an hour after his third ticket in one day. Hulk is 2 faced you can tell by the way he changed around his statements. He is trying too make himself out like the victim. The only way to tell who the victim is to see a video from inside the vehicle before it crashed. If John was telling nick to speed up or egging him on no one is at fault except for the hogans and very little at that. John would of gotten what he deserved. If he was telling nick too slow down John is the victim. Either way I think Hulk should pay for the cost of living for John just because he can afford it and John was suppost to be a friend.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Jun 16, 2008 18:46:12 GMT -5
it is a shame, exacerbated by a predatory media. nick is a piece of crap, there is no denying that. linda is a gold digging whore. beyond that, i dont think that hulk and brooke deserve any of the $#!tstorm. what hogan said on those tapes, i may have said the same thing if my son were in solitary confinement. regardless of what all of you retards who hate hogan solely because he was the greatest businessman in wrestling, this goes far beyond what you would call kharma. this is a case of "when it rains, it pours", because it is. as far as i am concerned, graziano should have been wearing his seatbelt. the more people make him out to be an innocent martyr, the less sympathy i feel. he is 23, he had been in iraq. the moron should have been smart enough to wear a damn seatbelt. his fatther who was never present in johns life before the tragedy now has to come out and make threats, making himself look like a common thug. the media only looks at the shallow surface, as is always the case, so they will fan the flames until the next story comes out, and they will ALWAYS be against hogan. i think no less of hogan than i ever did. while all of you other fickle sheep listen to all of the sound bytes taken out of context or seemingly heartless, think about what we have. a son and a father. considering hogan disintegrated his body for 30 years while wrestling, i would call that hard earned money. hogan will likely take a nasty hit from this because of graziano's greedy family who see a quick payday available. he should be looking at his money options, and considering his age and the shape of his body, wrestling should not have to be one of them. one of the only stars of that era to not only make a great living, but also manage to stay clean and survive, only going through his first divorce, from a nasty bottom feeding whore. how many wives has flair had? 4? and he beat the one. austin had 3 and he beat them all! the people i have no sympathy for is the grazianos. fact, john was stupid for not wearing a seatbelt. fact, frank was not a part of johns life until now. hmmmm? fact, nick is a complete jackass and deserves to be where he is. regardless of all of you who are pissed at hogan for making himself the most money and the most marketable star ever and just looking for reasons to dump on him and have no sympathy, you are the heartless ones. nick was wearing a seatbelt. if john was, it would just be a fender bender caused by a couple of cool-shots who had no regard for the other drivers, and they would have recieved their deserved cuts, scrapes, and sprains, but because john chose not to wear a seatbelt in a car that he was the passenger of numerous occasions previously with nick speeding like an ass, same scenario, but john is now a victim? no bueno. im not eating that bowl of bull$#!t. i have no sympathy for nick whatsoever, but also have no sympathy for the grazianos. i feel sorry for hulk!!!!! I mostly agree with whats in blue. I have too disagree with whats in Red. The first part. These dumbass wrestling news site made that part up. It is not being investigated as if it was hiss father it was his older half brother from his moms first marriage or something like that. "Stay clean" Hogan has admitted too massive amounts of steroids. That is why his body is in worse shape than flairs. John is sorta a victim but not completely. Hulk however is in no way the victim. There was alcohol found in nicks body. Hulk had bought some earlier that day. Either hulk let him or wasn't careful and he snuck some. Persons at fault IMO are Nick and Linda. Linda was and maybe still is a huge drag race fan. She said in that video she loves it. Hulk and Linda should of both put an end too Nicks drag racind and speeding by over 40 miles an hour after his third ticket in one day. Hulk is 2 faced you can tell by the way he changed around his statements. He is trying too make himself out like the victim. The only way to tell who the victim is to see a video from inside the vehicle before it crashed. If John was telling nick to speed up or egging him on no one is at fault except for the hogans and very little at that. John would of gotten what he deserved. If he was telling nick too slow down John is the victim. Either way I think Hulk should pay for the cost of living for John just because he can afford it and John was suppost to be a friend. first i would like to say i appreciate the well thought out reply. by clean, i should have specified alcoholism, drug addiction, and the like. you are right. hogan and linda should have stopped it before it got out of hand, and hulk is 2 faced, he is worried about his image, but he always comes across terribly. we will never know what happened in that car before the accident, but he still should have been wearing a seatbelt. as far as hogan paying for assisted living, I am not sure how i feel about that. maybe he should pay to an extent, but considering that hulk wasnt in the car, and his abuse of his own body is what made him his money, he shouldnt have to pay to the extent that he won't be able to support his children (although he should no longer spoil them rotten).
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Jun 16, 2008 18:54:42 GMT -5
My feelings on the Hogan's
Nick: Got what he deserved for driving wrecklessly. He played now he is paying.
Linda: Horrible gold digging bitch. Has never done anything productive. Just lives off Hulk. Now is with a 19 year old? Trash.
Brooke: Seems like she has her head on straight. And is atleast trying to better herself by singing.
Hulk: While he may not have punished his son enough he is still a great dad. And just wants the best for his kids.
To the people bringing up Hulks wrestling "politics" that is stupid. He was trying to make himself better in a world of make believe. This is the real world. I saw Hulk a few years back with Brooke at her CD signing. Was Linda their? Nope. Nick? Nope. Hulk went because 1. He wants to be their for his daughter. 2. He knows with him their more people will come. So does that sound like a bad dad?
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Post by leila on Jun 16, 2008 19:20:05 GMT -5
I heard the phone call today which was threatening. I sure hope that he doesnt kill hogan. Thats what Im afraid of.
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