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Post by chumped on May 14, 2008 20:17:37 GMT -5
Well at one point in time it was. It's not just a catch phrase, that is a gimmick.
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Post by Flyrfn144 on May 14, 2008 20:18:31 GMT -5
The King of Kings is his gimmick. He is called that, he calls himself that, his DVD is called that, his shirts say that. That isn't a gimmick, its a catchphrase. T he Rock's gimmick wasn't the most electryfying man in sports entertainment. HBK's gimmick isn't Heart Break Kid. Um, yeah, that was/is their gimmicks
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Post by Iron Man on May 14, 2008 20:19:19 GMT -5
Well at one point in time it was. It's not just a catch phrase, that is a gimmick. Ok, so last thing I am going to post. You don't call this a gimmick. -Cocky -Arrogant -Prick -Loudmouth -Bad ass If those are gimmicks, then Kennedy has them. Argument done with me, tbh.
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Post by chumped on May 14, 2008 20:21:11 GMT -5
Well at one point in time it was. It's not just a catch phrase, that is a gimmick. Ok, so last thing I am going to post. You don't call this a gimmick. -Cocky -Arrogant -Prick -Loudmouth -Bad ass If those are gimmicks, then Kennedy has them. Argument done with me, tbh. Those are characteristics. Things like King of Kings, Heart Break Kid, etc are gimmicks. When Triple H comes down dressed like Conan the ing Barbarian in a crown, it is a gimmick.
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Post by Flyrfn144 on May 14, 2008 20:23:12 GMT -5
Well at one point in time it was. It's not just a catch phrase, that is a gimmick. Ok, so last thing I am going to post. You don't call this a gimmick. -Cocky-Arrogant -Prick-Loudmouth -Bad assIf those are gimmicks, then Kennedy has them. Argument done with me, tbh. Right now, Kennedy is none of these. He was sort of when he was a heel, but right now he is a face, and none of these are applying. And the only reason he is a loudmouth is because he screams his name like he is God. So that leaves Arrogant, which isn't really a gimmick.
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Post by Trypod on May 14, 2008 20:29:53 GMT -5
They'll probably both become big. People will be forced to accept them as the main event. It's pretty much what they've been doing since their last group of top stars have faded off. So no matter how average they both are, they'll be given the top spots. I think MVP has more of what it takes. Kennedy is two scoops of vanilla with a glass of water. There's nothing special there at all. MVP has a character you can get into and associate with just based on the fact that sports are filled with arrogant and self-centered athletes. He's got a style and a look that can sell. Kennedy's just a prick who can say his name really loud.
They'll both be in the next batch of the company's main eventers, but it doesn't mean they'll be huge stars. They'll be placed there because there really isn't anything else to put there now.
It's just funny, because no matter how much their status grows into the main event, if guys like HBK, HHH, and Undertaker are still there, they'll still be getting the bigger pops and selling more merchandise. It just goes to show how incredibly average and lackluster their ability to groom superstars is and that people are still clinging to the older guys. If they go any time soon, their audience gets even smaller.
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Post by Iron Man on May 14, 2008 20:33:50 GMT -5
Meh, I know I said the argument is done, but dark knight, if you think Kennedy's promo's are terrible, please tell me what you think of Orton's promo skills? If you think he is above Kennedy then your opinon doesn't mean crap to me anymore.
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Post by LAXxxx305 on May 14, 2008 20:35:03 GMT -5
Orton has worse Microphone skills than Kennedy. I was watching RAW and he said "NO!" just how Lashley would say it. If somebody says none of them will be huge stars/become the World Champion, you're intellectually- disabled. C'Mon who is going to take the WWE over when Triple H, Taker, Shawn, ect leaves. What is so special about Orton? Only he has a cool finisher but, that's all. Kennedy has way betetr mic skills than Orton. Randy Orton is bland in the ring so none of you can say anything about Kennedy's ring skills.
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Post by Trypod on May 14, 2008 20:35:10 GMT -5
Meh, I know I said the argument is done, but dark knight, if you think Kennedy's promo's are terrible, please tell me what you think of Orton's promo skills? If you think he is above Kennedy then your opinon doesn't mean **** to me anymore. They both go about it the same way. "If I talk really loud, I'll get my point across some more" There's nothing fancy to how they go about talking on the mic. Very plain.
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Post by chumped on May 14, 2008 20:39:37 GMT -5
Meh, I know I said the argument is done, but dark knight, if you think Kennedy's promo's are terrible, please tell me what you think of Orton's promo skills? If you think he is above Kennedy then your opinon doesn't mean **** to me anymore. Well then I guess my opinion doesn't mean crap. I don't think Orton is GREAT on the microphone by any means, because he is usually hit or miss. But lately, mainly since becoming champion, I think he has had more "hits". As I said, I don't think he is great, but when he starts chewing like a cow, over exaggerating his lines, and screaming his name, I'll say he sucks too.
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Post by Iron Man on May 14, 2008 20:40:23 GMT -5
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Post by chumped on May 14, 2008 20:43:33 GMT -5
Well your Kennedy link proved my point about 4 seconds in, and that is where I turned it off. And as far as the Orton link goes, as I said, he isn't great. But that promo was good because of what he said. He talked about the cowards way out, etc, which was genius for his character, because that is exactly what he does. So telling Cena he did it is just adding on to his heel character.
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Post by Iron Man on May 14, 2008 20:44:32 GMT -5
Well your Kennedy link proved my point about 4 seconds in, and that is where I turned it off. And as far as the Orton link goes, as I said, he isn't great. But that promo was good because of what he said. He talked about the cowards way out, etc, which was genius for his character, because that is exactly what he does. So telling Cena he did it is just adding on to his heel character. See, the first part might be annoying but watch the rest. another one. You can't say they are "horrible".
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Post by chumped on May 14, 2008 20:46:32 GMT -5
Well your Kennedy link proved my point about 4 seconds in, and that is where I turned it off. And as far as the Orton link goes, as I said, he isn't great. But that promo was good because of what he said. He talked about the cowards way out, etc, which was genius for his character, because that is exactly what he does. So telling Cena he did it is just adding on to his heel character. See, the first part might be annoying but watch the rest. another one. You can't say they are "horrible". I don't give a **** about Kennedy hopping up and down on a chair acting like an idiot, or sitting on the toilet acting like an idiot. That has nothing to do with wrestling.
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Post by Iron Man on May 14, 2008 20:49:56 GMT -5
See, the first part might be annoying but watch the rest. another one. You can't say they are "horrible". I don't give a **** about Kennedy hopping up and down on a chair acting like an idiot, or sitting on the toilet acting like an idiot. That has nothing to do with wrestling. Meh, you could do the most amazing move and you'd probably say it was boring. Or if he cut an amazing promo you'd say it's terrible. Your just a Kennedy hater, doesn't matter what he does, you say it's "Terrible".
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Post by chumped on May 14, 2008 20:52:15 GMT -5
I don't give a **** about Kennedy hopping up and down on a chair acting like an idiot, or sitting on the toilet acting like an idiot. That has nothing to do with wrestling. Meh, you could do the most amazing move and you'd probably say it was boring. Or if he cut an amazing promo you'd say it's terrible. Your just a Kennedy hater, doesn't matter what he does, you say it's "Terrible". That can swing right back around to you. You love him, so you will enjoy anything he does. You've proven this by linking me to a few of the most idiotic "promos" I have ever seen. I mean, he was talking about Tom Cruise, while jumping on a chair, sitting on a toilet, holding a fake baby, and giving lame one liners about Poo-Poo Platters.
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Post by Iron Man on May 14, 2008 20:54:30 GMT -5
Meh, you could do the most amazing move and you'd probably say it was boring. Or if he cut an amazing promo you'd say it's terrible. Your just a Kennedy hater, doesn't matter what he does, you say it's "Terrible". That can swing right back around to you. You love him, so you will enjoy anything he does. You've proven this by linking me to a few of the most idiotic "promos" I have ever seen. I mean, he was talking about Tom Cruise, while jumping on a chair, sitting on a toilet, holding a fake baby, and giving lame one liners about Poo-Poo Platters. No, as a matter of a fact I use to dislike Randy Orton in late 07 but he grew on me as he got better in the ring and on the mic. I am not like you, someone who hates on a wrestler no matter what he does. And what about the other video's? And who cares if he acted like an idiot, it was funny, you of all people called him bland.
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Post by chumped on May 14, 2008 20:58:38 GMT -5
That can swing right back around to you. You love him, so you will enjoy anything he does. You've proven this by linking me to a few of the most idiotic "promos" I have ever seen. I mean, he was talking about Tom Cruise, while jumping on a chair, sitting on a toilet, holding a fake baby, and giving lame one liners about Poo-Poo Platters. No, as a matter of a fact I use to dislike Randy Orton in late 07 but he grew on me as he got better in the ring and on the mic. I am not like you, someone who hates on a wrestler no matter what he does. And what about the other video's? And who cares if he acted like an idiot, it was funny, you of all people called him bland. I only hate everything a wrestler does if everything that wrestler does sucks. When Kennedy does something that I like, I will admit that he has done something well, and have no problem doing so. But, this really needs to end. So if you have any other replies, do it via PM or something, because we've really spammed this thread up big time, lol. Seeing as we have these arguments weekly...I'll see you next week
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Post by fallenhero on May 14, 2008 21:11:16 GMT -5
What do people honestly see in Kennedy? All I see is another average wrestler who screams his name really loud. What did anyone see in Rock? Just a guy who was good at promo's. What did anyone see in Austin? Austin was awesome on the mic, and was the ing crap in the ring.
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Post by Iron Man on May 14, 2008 21:20:30 GMT -5
Why is it so wrong for me to have an opinon on a wrestler I like, and to have an opinon that this guy is going to be one of the best in the WWE without getting bitched on?
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