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Post by brethitmanhart on Apr 5, 2008 3:23:10 GMT -5
Carlito is awesome and the WWE should give him the push he deserves. He never gets anything. It wouldn't suprise me to see him at a few TNA events soon.
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Fiasco
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Post by Fiasco on Apr 5, 2008 3:35:15 GMT -5
Carlito>Punk
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Post by MichaelTheMartian on Apr 5, 2008 4:26:49 GMT -5
Carlito has been taking crap since mid 2006, Punk now is there boy. I mean seriously Carlito goes from an Elimanation Chamber and being thelast one surviving with Cena to jobbing to a bloody midget! Same goes with Chris Masters he bloody jobbed 100000000 times to Chuck Palumbo & Super Crazy & Santino Marella. It seems to me that WWE push people who are "heels" so to speak, backstage! First Orton & now CM Punk. I believe Carlito has every right to be jealous of this ridicouless push there about to give Punk, Carlito or Mr.Kennedy deserve that WAY more than Punk. I have never heard of them putting there hoodie on and not looking at the crowd and not sign anything or even say anything. Even Mr.Kennedy when he's in his gimmick he still talks to people and signs stuff. Uh, I have seen plenty of people not sign things for the fans, including Undertaker. SO what, they don't have to. And the CM Punk/backstage stuff, how would you know? Just because it was reported in the interweb. Carlito is a lazy ass who doesn't care to improve. That Flair promo he did a year ago was to try and wake Carlito up a little So how dont you know that it was fake internet stuff reported about Carlito being a lazy ass? Also what do you mean by "they dont have to signs stuff"? Its called an autograph signing, where people meet that superstar and he HAS TO SIGN it for them, now it will be funny probaly in a few motnhs time, you'll be a superstar he wont sign something for you, and you'll come on here complaining!
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Post by Iron Man on Apr 5, 2008 15:18:43 GMT -5
Uh, I have seen plenty of people not sign things for the fans, including Undertaker. SO what, they don't have to. And the CM Punk/backstage stuff, how would you know? Just because it was reported in the interweb. Carlito is a lazy ass who doesn't care to improve. That Flair promo he did a year ago was to try and wake Carlito up a little So how dont you know that it was fake internet stuff reported about Carlito being a lazy ass? Also what do you mean by "they dont have to signs stuff"? Its called an autograph signing, where people meet that superstar and he HAS TO SIGN it for them, now it will be funny probaly in a few motnhs time, you'll be a superstar he wont sign something for you, and you'll come on here complaining! Wow, you made yourself look smart. First of all, we all know about Carlito because of the angle he did with Flair. The whole Flair promo ya know. Do you really think they just wanted to do a storyline with them, Also I was talking about live events. You don't have to sign anything for anyone. I asked Taker for a pic and an autograph and he blew me off and acted like he didn't see anyone. I still like Taker and is one of my all time favorites. So your wrong again, tbh
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Post by Paradox on Apr 5, 2008 21:28:22 GMT -5
Just because they did a promo on it, doesn't mean it's based on real events. While the WWE does add real life situations to storylines from time to time, there's no proof that Carlito is as uninspired as all these 'smarks' think he is. I'm sure you'll reiterate "but Flair did that promo" again, and it's of no use. Flair's promo has as much substance as the Katie Vick storyline.
and, really, do Punk fans have any right to call ANY superstar lazy? Punk has been looking extremely lazy for months now. Ever since the feud with Morrison ended, he's just been half-assing each and every event. I used to be a huge Punk fan in his ROH days, but ever since he's come to the WWE, I've distanced myself further and further away from him. Not just because I find Punk's recent lack of enthusiasm a turn-off, but because new-age Punk marks are quite possibly the most annoying breed of fans. Especially the 'sXe' ones that don't even know what the hell the straight-edge subculture was even built on(it's not as pretty as most think).
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Post by Iron Man on Apr 5, 2008 21:31:50 GMT -5
Just because they did a promo on it, doesn't mean it's based on real events. While the WWE does add real life situations to storylines from time to time, there's no proof that Carlito is as uninspired as all these 'smarks' think he is. I'm sure you'll reiterate "but Flair did that promo" again, and it's of no use. Flair's promo has as much substance as the Katie Vick storyline. and, really, do Punk fans have any right to call ANY superstar lazy? Punk has been looking extremely lazy for months now. Ever since the feud with Morrison ended, he's just been half-assing each and every event. I used to be a huge Punk fan in his ROH days, but ever since he's come to the WWE, I've distanced myself further and further away from him. Not just because I find Punk's recent lack of enthusiasm a turn-off, but because new-age Punk marks are quite possibly the most annoying breed of fans. Especially the 'sXe' ones that don't even know what the hell the straight-edge subculture was even built on(it's not as pretty as most think). Wait, so basically you said that there is no proof of Carlito being lazy (which there was with the promo) but then you say Punk is lazy? Wow, you just lost all your credibility on here. I have been a Punk fan since his IWA/ROH days, so don't act like I am a "new" Punk mark. You don't even know me. Second of all, you think the Flair/Carlito Promo was just done to give them something to do? I don't think so.
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Post by la on Apr 5, 2008 22:02:15 GMT -5
i think punks better than carlito anyway
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2008 22:45:17 GMT -5
huge CARLITO fan -- but not biased, so here goes
u know whats funny??
"carlito is lazy" started when he was doing his best work in the ring....it began being reported when he was a face and showed alot more of his move set. hurricanranas, double springboard sentons, backflips off the top turnbuckle and landing on his feet, etc.
anyways, they realized he hadnt shown them all of this before and define it as lazyness. honestly he prob thought that he shouldnt do too many acrobatic things for a heel move set. regardless of that, he didnt want to be a "good guy" -- so they had him lose match after match. seems like they basically killed his spirit and wouldnt let go of the whole lazy thing. really feels like they made him buy into that and it's affecting how he wrestles.
IMO --- he has more natural talent in the ring than most anybody you'll ever see. his athleticism is up there with SHELTON BENJAMIN. they can both do things nobody on the roster will ever dream of doing. his mic skills are up there with the top guys and he's got the look as long as his hair stays "BIG".
It's amazing how many feuds he's lost --- before he was even de-pushed. only person he's gone over in a feud is CHRIS MASTERS. yet he still was over....still got cheered or booed.
if anybody else was de-railed that much idk if they'd get any reaction at all.
also, add to the fact that most his matches on tv are about 4-5 minutes after the entrances -- it's pretty hard to get a great match outa anybody with that short ammount of time.
really hope 2 see the carlito of old...but idk if they'll ever give him the chance. his match with shelton on ecw was pretty darn great.
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E-Noon
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Post by E-Noon on Apr 5, 2008 23:04:05 GMT -5
A few months ago the rumors said that Edge turned down the idea of having the SCS as his lackeys....stupid internet...
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Post by TeamExtreme718x on Apr 5, 2008 23:58:37 GMT -5
Punk > Carlito
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