UK Edge, Matt, Jeff pack, My thoughts on Jakks.

[kanekilledvince]

Yeah i got it today.


I checked the stock this morning online at about 9, and headed up to get it after dinner. I feel a little threatened actually, there were four in stock at 9 am, but only one in stock at 1pm, and it hasn't appeared in any catalogues or anything yet. This is the first time anything like that happened to me. So much for one MOC and one loose. How could such a horrible thing happen in such a quiet town?


But yeah, I'll pick one up another time again.

I posted detailed pictures in the loose database for anyone who has yet to see them. CAREFUL THOUGH, THERE ARE 22 HIGH QUALITY PICTURES!

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Heres my thoughts on the figures, Keep in mind im in Ireland, therefore Edge is new to me and hasn't been released here before.

Matt: Lookng at the MOC pics posted by fig a nomics, (I originally though Matt would be the figure i wouldn't care about) i thought he looked pretty damn sweet. He had plain black pants and shoes. White wrist tape, white belt and black hair. I know that all seems like a description of a negative (as in a negative from a photograph), but i always like when figures are clad in black. It looks more realistic in my opinion. Darker clothes on figures are superior in my opinion (generally speaking, of course).

So Matt was pretty good looking. I was looking forward to the whole set. Yay.

However, what a disaster. Maybe its just me, i don't know, But Matt's head is tiny. It doesn't look too bad in pictures, but in-person it looks.. bleh. Also, as goes with a small head scan, the plastic on the bottom of the head and the top of the neck isn't seperated as much as it should be, Meaning that, you guessed it, moving his head is a horrible task. Literally having to squeeze his head as hard as i can to turn it isn't my idea of a great exclusive figure.



Jeff: Obviously the star of the pack. Jeff is the guy the kids are gonna persecute their parents to get. Not bad, not good. A lack of facial hair is a worrying thing. I am not new to collecting and I am not new to Jakks. But.. At least put detail into a figure that you call an "Exclusive". Of course, no kid is gonna say "Mammy, Mammy MAMMY, Get me that Jeff figure! i always wanted Jeff because i am in love with him like so many other kids and we don't realise he is totally overrated in every way", and then when they get the figure say "Oh, Jakks decided not to give him facial hair, I don't want it anymore."

So i can see where Jakks are coming from. They're making the set for kids. Do i blame Jakks for cutting that corner? If jakks said "look, the kids can't get a Jeff. The scalpers are grabbing them everywhere, cutting this corner will save us a few dollars on paint. The kids will buy it purely because its Jeff."

Can you argue with that? No. You logically can't disagree.

However, that logic isn't correct. When i went looking for my complete PPV 14, I had no trouble finding them. Jeff warmed shelves. I got him with ease. Jakks must realise there is a difference between the US and Ireland/UK. Scalpers are non-existent in Ireland. Our prices are ridiculous, so we can't make a profit selling stuff on the net. therefore we don't bother attempting. Also, this figure is exclusive to 10,000 pieces. there have to have been more PPV14 Jeffs than that. Yet, he gets the facial hair.

Exclusives are gonna be bought by collectors before they're bought by kids. The word "Exclusive" screams at a collector. No matter how bad the set may be, if i don't buy it i feel guilty. I hate to think that some time i'll be saying to myself "should've gotten that set whilst i could."

Anyway, moving away from his facial hair.. and sorry for going on about it so much, just makes me annoyed.

His hair has more than one colour which is cool. The arm bands are nice, too. but doesn't jeff wear the same two colours on both arms generally? inverting them on each arm? I'm not sure, but i think it woulda looked better anyway.

Looks like after inspecting of the set a little, Jeff really isn't the star.

Which means that the star must be..?



Edge: Well.. Yeah. Screaming scan isn't a plus, but it works pretty well. A slight altering in colours is the only real difference here. Although, Unlike when some people change their attire ever so slightly (Shawn Michaels from tights to pleathers for example) and it isn't much of a difference, when some people do it (Kane from red w/ black to black w/red for example) it just makes you feel a whole lot better.

Edge is the latter. Some people change their attire to make themselves look better. From tights to trunks (Triple H), trunks to tights (Hogan) or even just small colour changes on a regular basis (Angle) its done to freshen them up. Sometimes its horrible, other times its great.

As simple a repaint as it is, A blue Edge is fantastic. When i seen it was a US exclusive with a ring, i got really pissed. I thought it looked awesome. I wanted it, and in the end, i got it. I don't know if there are any differences between the US and UK versions (doubtful) but it really is cool. However, as much as i can sing its praises...

Wheres the exclusivity of it? Is it because its only in Ireland? No? oh.. only in the whole of the UK then? No? Not that either?

But of course, its available, easily, worldwide.



Overall, the set just serves as a reminder that Jakks are slipping. As much as i hate to say it, as i am one of the people who would like Jakks to stay on after 09, Its becoming more and more apparent every series.

Surely throwing Edge's new "Smirking" scan onto this figure wouldn't cause any problems? then i'd feel good being able to say "screw you America, Look what we got first!". But no.

The word "Exclusive" is as loosely used as the word "Classic" and "Limited Edition" by Jakks.

Sadly, it looks like WWE squashing its Jakks deal would be the better choice for consumers worldwide. As Vince Mcmahon would say "You can't argue with success", Jakks have proven him wrong. We can argue, and we do. Jakks decide to overlook the numerous complaints and continue to "drop the ball" as they stumble into the future.


I think we've all seen the DA Three pack Edge? With its lack of logos, camo, and just general detail.


We, as collectors, MUST put our foot down. Enough is enough.

You aren't happy with Jakks ruining RA29 Edge. You aren't happy with Jakks ruining the Four Horsemen. You Aren't happy with Jakks not painting the back of UF3 John Cena's head. You aren't happy with Jakks signing Tank Abott. You aren't happy with Jakks messing up CS Kane's mask. You aren't happy with Jakks messing up the RSR Chamber. You aren't happy with Jakks not including (advertised) cardboard cut-outs with their rings. You aren't happy with no bullet-proof vest with JTG. You aren't happy two skin tones on Candice's figure. You aren't happy with Vince being taller than other wrestlers. You aren't happy with Edge Constantly getting muscular torso's. You aren't happy with Jakks changing ECW's carding at the last minute. You aren't happy with Lance Cade getting no ring gear figures.


Yet... guaranteed you bought them anyway.

The only way you're gonna get your opinion heard, is if you give it to them. E-mail them with your list of complaints. When you go to ringside fest, tell them that their product sucks. Tell them straight to their faces that they are selling sh*t! Make them feel embarrassed to be representing Jakks.

What use is it saying how much you love the product when they have become so much noticeably worse. Jakks are taking the piss out of us at this stage, and i for one am sick of it.

As you all know i've been working on the loose database. I, myself, have taken about 1,000 pictures. When you do that for so long you realise how crappy the product really is. Why did i buy this new so called "Exclusive"? Because i want figures of the people i love. I admire Edge and the brothers because theyve succeeded in the wrestling world. Jakks shouldn't take advantage of the consumers and fans of WWE, and I am genuinely shocked that WWE haven't stepped in yet and said "what exactly is this crap?".

Needless to say, right after i press "post message" here, I'm sending an e-mail to Jakks, Jeremy and WWE. I feel so sorry for Jeremy. Hes like John Cena walking into one night stand.

Actually, let me correct that. He SHOULD be like John Cena marching into one night stand. But instead, He will be like Hulk Hogan strolling into WrestleMania. I can't be at ringside fest. If i could, i would.

Those of you who are gonna be there should get your lips of Jakks' ass and put your foot up it.

Unfortunately... I can't see that happening.


What a figure review this was... So yeah, buy the set if you want the Edge. He's the only half decent looking figure. But his torso mould is too big for his crotch mould so it overlaps. Doesn't seem like Jakks to make a mistake like that.

[mario07]

great figs enjoy

[ra24sabu]

I think you made some great points, but I really don't understand how you think Jeff is overrated. He's only had 1 world title shot ever, and he lost. He put his body on the line so frequently, more back in the attitude era then now, but he doesn't do it as much now because WWE doesn't have as many of those crazy matches. Have you ever seen Kennedy dive off the top of a stage through a crap load of tables? Has MVP ever dived off a 15 foot ladder onto a table on the outside of the ring? Has Randy Orton ever jumped off a 15 foot ladder onto another ladder outside the ring? Jeff was, and still is one of the hardest working stars in WWE, when he does decide to work. Just because he's extremely popular you think he's "overrated"?? Cena? Yeah. Batista? Yeah. But not Jeff. And he never had to take steroids like so many of your other beloved wrestlers.

[JCF]

I myself, Read everything you typed. I must say, You are right about alot of things. It is becoming more obvious Jakks & The WWE will be parting ways in 2009. Jakks is making the product worse each series. Big letdowns are in every series. It's a shame to say, But i now believe Jakks and the wwe are done in 2009. With the current pattern as of late, Jakks is throwing anything together and packaging it. Alot of figures lately could've been gold, But are completely the opposite of what they should be. We've never had anything this bad before from Jakks. Lately, There have been too many letdowns. It's a shame because what we could get is good, detailed figures. But that's just not the case anymore. Things have gone downhill too much lately. It's a shame to say, And i really hate even saying this, But i actually feel like not collecting anymore. There's no more good feeling of things lately. But now, The biggest problem seems to be the latest/newest DA 3 Packs. Just look at the last ones, They were amazing sets. One of the last sets featured Sabu, Bobby Lashley, & RVD. Sabu was done great, With no flaws at all. Lashley was just a re-release, But atleast it gave everyone another chance to get his figure. RVD had a pretty detailed singlet. The other set was Edge, Jeff Hardy, & Randy Orton. Ok, This set was amazing. We had the first ever Edge in blue attire. We had an updated Randy Orton with a cool tight design. We had a highly detailed Jeff Hardy with his detailed tanktop with logo, His hair was a cool shade of green, And he even had the white stitching in his pants. Ok, So both sets were amazing. But, These new sets are just thrown together, Inaccurate, & Repaints. The newest sets look like Jakks did'nt try at all. The newest DA 3 packs arent the only problem. Everything lately has been a problem. Theres just TOO many letdowns EVERY series .Alot of stuff lately has had problems. But what i hate the most is the new plastic they've been using on the arms. It is too loose. It is very annoying, But theres not much i can do about it. Sure, I can fix the problem, but should a collector have to buy a figure and fix the arms on it? No. Sure, I dont have to fix the arms because my figures are only on display, But i dont want to pick up a figure and have it be so loose and make it seem like it's not of it's superior quality. I just am very, very upset about what's been happening lately. If things dont improve, I doubt im going to collect anymore. I just want to say, Thanks for the pics of the set. Enjoy it.

[kanekilledvince]

ra24sabu said:

I think you made some great points, but I really don't understand how you think Jeff is overrated. He's only had 1 world title shot ever, and he lost. He put his body on the line so frequently, more back in the attitude era then now, but he doesn't do it as much now because WWE doesn't have as many of those crazy matches. Have you ever seen Kennedy dive off the top of a stage through a **** load of tables? Has MVP ever dived off a 15 foot ladder onto a table on the outside of the ring? Has Randy Orton ever jumped off a 15 foot ladder onto another ladder outside the ring? Jeff was, and still is one of the hardest working stars in WWE, when he does decide to work. Just because he's extremely popular you think he's "overrated"?? Cena? Yeah. Batista? Yeah. But not Jeff. And he never had to take steroids like so many of your other beloved wrestlers.

You realise he just came off a suspension for drug use, right?

And Jumping off things isn't my opinion of a solid wrestler/worker. I don't care too much for "spot fests". And he is a multi-time Intercontinental champion. A title befitting Ric Flair, Triple H, King Booker, Shawn Michaels, Kane, Matt Hardy, Edge, Jericho and others. Giving it to Jeff devalues it. Despite my opinions about Jeff Hardy, I will still respect yours. But I'd like to try and stay on topic please.

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johnnycollectsfigs said:

I myself, Read everything you typed. I must say, You are right about alot of things. It is becoming more obvious Jakks & The WWE will be parting ways in 2009. Jakks is making the product worse each series. Big letdowns are in every series. It's a shame to say, But i now believe Jakks and the wwe are done in 2009. With the current pattern as of late, Jakks is throwing anything together and packaging it. Alot of figures lately could've been gold, But are completely the opposite of what they should be. We've never had anything this bad before from Jakks. Lately, There have been too many letdowns. It's a shame because what we could get is good, detailed figures. But that's just not the case anymore. Things have gone downhill too much lately. It's a shame to say, And i really hate even saying this, But i actually feel like not collecting anymore. There's no more good feeling of things lately. But now, The biggest problem seems to be the latest/newest DA 3 Packs. Just look at the last ones, They were amazing sets. One of the last sets featured Sabu, Bobby Lashley, & RVD. Sabu was done great, With no flaws at all. Lashley was just a re-release, But atleast it gave everyone another chance to get his figure. RVD had a pretty detailed singlet. The other set was Edge, Jeff Hardy, & Randy Orton. Ok, This set was amazing. We had the first ever Edge in blue attire. We had an updated Randy Orton with a cool tight design. We had a highly detailed Jeff Hardy with his detailed tanktop with logo, His hair was a cool shade of green, And he even had the white stitching in his pants. Ok, So both sets were amazing. But, These new sets are just thrown together, Inaccurate, & Repaints. The newest sets look like Jakks did'nt try at all. The newest DA 3 packs arent the only problem. Everything lately has been a problem. Theres just TOO many letdowns EVERY series .Alot of stuff lately has had problems. But what i hate the most is the new plastic they've been using on the arms. It is too loose. It is very annoying, But theres not much i can do about it. Sure, I can fix the problem, but should a collector have to buy a figure and fix the arms on it? No. Sure, I dont have to fix the arms because my figures are only on display, But i dont want to pick up a figure and have it be so loose and make it seem like it's not of it's superior quality. I just am very, very upset about what's been happening lately. If things dont improve, I doubt im going to collect anymore. I just want to say, Thanks for the pics of the set. Enjoy it.

Yeah, i seen those sets. The Edge is, at best, laughably bad. No wonder the pictures we seen were of the set in a store and not in someone's house.

I agree, that Jakks are becoming worse and worse. I mean, its OK to produce crap for a series here and there, its expected. You can't have amazing figures every series. But they have been getting gradually worse. Its not a case where they are having an off period, where the characters on TV are wearing bland attires and there are no new characters to make, so they're forced into a corner where they have to make bland, dull repaints. There are new stars debuting week in-week out lately. People are wearing colourful, detailed attires. Everyone is getting more character-specific clothes. How many wrestlers go around WWE today with nothing unique about them? They all look different. A problem Jakks also create is trying to make so many different people from so few moulds. You cant make 50 people using the same 5 moulds over and over. It just doesn't work. They need to spend some money making more moulds for people and they need to do it now. Everytime i think about jakks i think of yet another problem.

[ra24sabu]

kanekilledvince said:

ra24sabu said:

I think you made some great points, but I really don't understand how you think Jeff is overrated. He's only had 1 world title shot ever, and he lost. He put his body on the line so frequently, more back in the attitude era then now, but he doesn't do it as much now because WWE doesn't have as many of those crazy matches. Have you ever seen Kennedy dive off the top of a stage through a **** load of tables? Has MVP ever dived off a 15 foot ladder onto a table on the outside of the ring? Has Randy Orton ever jumped off a 15 foot ladder onto another ladder outside the ring? Jeff was, and still is one of the hardest working stars in WWE, when he does decide to work. Just because he's extremely popular you think he's "overrated"?? Cena? Yeah. Batista? Yeah. But not Jeff. And he never had to take steroids like so many of your other beloved wrestlers.

You realise he just came off a suspension for drug use, right?

And Jumping off things isn't my opinion of a solid wrestler/worker. I don't care too much for "spot fests". And he is a multi-time Intercontinental champion. A title befitting Ric Flair, Triple H, King Booker, Shawn Michaels, Kane, Matt Hardy, Edge, Jericho and others. Giving it to Jeff devalues it. Despite my opinions about Jeff Hardy, I will still respect yours. But I'd like to try and stay on topic please.

Maybe not a perfectly solid wrestler, but a really hardworking/entertaining one. He can do mat wrestling though, and pretty well. He's not 100% flying. The IC title befits all those people....but not as good as the world title does. Most of those people have won the world title many times over. And the drugs he was using weren't performance enhancers. If I implied any rudeness in my response, I meant none. I respect your opinion as well. It's just that mine is better.

Alright, back to the topic, I agree that Jakks is slipping. I would personally get that pack, because I missed out on the WM 2 pack. But there are small things that would really make the product better, but if you think about it, they're making massive amounts of money, therefore WWE is making massive amounts of money. All Jakks and WWE know is that thay're making massive amounts of money doing what they're currently doing, and I personally believe that's all they care about. The only way I can see anything changing is if somehow a boycot is organized. But then again, there's always someone else ready to buy the next with with a sad excuse for camo.

[Sound888]

Your loose figure database is REALLY REALLY inaccurate.. I went to search for two figs and already know that you have no clue about old RA figures.

[kanekilledvince]

rvdddp199 said:

Your loose figure database is REALLY REALLY inaccurate.. I went to search for two figs and already know that you have no clue about old RA figures.

I've been collecting since long before RA.

Also, don't criticise it without giving a reason why.

How is it inaccurate? Tell me what you found wrong with it, and if it is wrong, then i'll fix it.

Don't just say its inaccurate and offer no reason why.

[Sound888]

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[kanekilledvince]

rvdddp199 said:

loosejakks.proboards54.com/index.cgi?board=ra2&action=display&thread=1187832994

PM'ed you, Thanks for the heads up.

Anyway, can we get back on-topic please.

[● kaneisdaman ●]

Thats one damn solid review there and thanks for it. You always write A-grade reviews. Thanks for all the heads-up on the pack. Very thorough analysis.

[taker1]

I have that Blue Edge. Mine came with a huge paint mark on the back.

[ra24sabu]

taker1 said:

I have that Blue Edge. Mine came with a huge paint mark on the back.

On its booty??

[taker1]

ra24sabu said:

taker1 said:

I have that Blue Edge. Mine came with a huge paint mark on the back.

On its booty??

No, on his calf.

[jcsix]

i recently got them from argos and are good. one question. is this edge same as the tesco 6 pack raw one if so iv got 2 of the dame ones cause my nan got it my for crimbo?