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Post by Wez on Jan 31, 2008 12:44:57 GMT -5
I was thinking of changes that could be made seeing how few seem to be happy here and thought that I'd post my ideas to see what everyone thinks and to get you to post your ideas.
Here's what I would go with:
1) I would start by scrapping the House Shows. Only 8 of the 16 participants on the last House Show posted, that's half the people no-showing and I think that some people are been held back on the house shows too long.
2) We currently have 44 characters on the roster so we could split the fed into two shows (Loaded and an old show title brought back such as Enmity) and have a draft. Each show
would have 2 exclusives titles that can be challenged for at any show and also the non-exclusive tag titles and world title which can be challenged for at PPVs only. The first exclusive title would be a low card title (show 1 - Hardcore, show 2 - Cruiserweight) and the second exclusive title would be a mid card title (show 1 - National, show 2 - International).
3) I would create a new mod (such as Burton or Obo) to cover unimportant tasks such as cleaning up spammed posts so that results and cards can be created faster.
Opinions or your own ideas?
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Post by recklessmatten on Jan 31, 2008 13:12:27 GMT -5
I once mentioned about a two show split. It simply will not work. I like the format of it now
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Post by Markw on Jan 31, 2008 13:24:54 GMT -5
1) Let people know what is planned for them in advance, when you don't know what is planned for you at all it seems a bit  , however this one seems to have changed for me as I know exactly what I am doing after SB, and looking forward to being involved in it. 2) Give people a little more control over their character, if Yukio and Mike talked to everyone about their plans for them a few weeks in advance I am sure things could be changed if needed and their wouldn't be so much fighting, people won't complain as much about people being added to matches ect. if they are told it will happen before it happens. 3) There isn't really any need for a 'Second Brand' it wouldn't work, when Thunder takes over the HS he can book it and will do so very well and Yukio can focus on Loaded 4) Yukio and Mike need to work together on every show, booking and writing so that things will get done quicker and better instead of them taking a show every other week and the other person in between. 5) Twists Suck. 6) Some feuds need to be uilt up a little better, I know that isn't always the owners fault I just mean people need to get more involved in their feuds (Me included as I really haven't done much to help the tag fedu whilst Horror and Burton have been doing some great Promo's) 7) I don't think we need a new mod but if we did, then THUNDER! 8) Scrapping The HS Is a terrible Idea (No Offense) the HS is there to build people up, allow people to introduce their characters before going straight to the main competition, the HS can be great as we saw when Yukio first had controll of it and Thunder will bring something new to the HS which should be good. |
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Post by kingofgoreobo on Jan 31, 2008 13:44:12 GMT -5
1) Let people know what is planned for them in advance, when you don't know what is planned for you at all it seems a bit , however this one seems to have changed for me as I know exactly what I am doing after SB, and looking forward to being involved in it. everyone but you and a few other newer guys already do that... see 1. I agree. House shows just needs to go back to being house shows, and the booking of people who are brand new on the main show needs to stop. Five shows on house show, BARE MINIMUM. I agree See 4 feuds are mostly the people, but when there's people in the fed that want to cooperate about absolutely nothing, or contribute nothing (no fingers pointed, CBT), it becomes null and void No.. See 3 Moral of this story: Williams says the same things a lot. A brand split would be terrible, and just a rip of WWE. Our fed is either all main eventers or lower mid carders. there is no in between. to split the fed in two would just create endless weeks of main eventers versus new comers, essentially just squashes. I had a mod spot a while back, running house shows and cleaning up the sign up board. When I stepped down as house show mod, they also took my sign up board mod spot for whatever reason. And like I said earlier, no one with a warning bar can ever be mod on these forums, so thanks Horror. |
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Post by Revvie® on Jan 31, 2008 13:46:48 GMT -5
First thing would be to simply dispose of an excess belts. I would keep tag, wfwf, and national. The people who lost their belts would be some how compensated in some way. I would also keep one belt simply called "The House Show Title"...that title would allow that one person to make semi-regular appearances on the main card as well as still be on the HS. It would prolly only be defended at a ppv.
All new ppl will be on HS till deemed ready and there would be no give on that. On occasion on a special card or PPV there might be a little give but most of them would end up on some pre-show for ppv's. Once your ready you would be given a chance to show your stuff on a main card, if you step up then your moved up.
The roster thread would be split into 2 sections. It would be split into HS and Main Card. This would keep it so that we know who is on what show.
!NO MORE TWISTS AND TURNS!
I would make sure that you are on the level you are on. You would get chances to do better but you would have to prove you can do it and not let me down.
Storylines: ARE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY!!!! I would work closely with the main champions and number one contenders BUT it will still be their responsibility to beef up the feuds and angles. Also if you needed help finding someone or coming up with something, I would help you get something going and help you on a needed basis.
Judging: A winner is a winner when the out rp the other, no other reason will be able to detour that unless both parties have agreed. If judging is split down the middle then a third, well knowledged party, would break it.
Owners would converse regularly and keep absolute track of what both are receiving.
PPV cards would be based on feuds, if you do not have a feud going you may be placed in a match randomly. Again its your responsibility to keep track of your feud and build on it.
There would also be NO story lines or angles on HS. Sorry, its a training and will only be aimless matches with short results, its to build your rp ability not angle and storylines.
Sooo yea...thats most of what I would do, besides providing an open ear to all about ideas and such for their characters or the fed in general.
Revvie ;D
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Post by Kurt Burton: Script Doctor! on Jan 31, 2008 14:32:09 GMT -5
1.)I say the number one rule is that people here need to start building their own storylines. Just like Rev said, it is your responcibility. However, I do agree with Williams that if someone is to be inserted into a storyline, they should be notified.
2.)I am going to differ from the general consensus and say twists are good... when used properly. Honestly, name one TV show, movie or book that did not have any twists that were good. However, these twists cannot be random twists. It shouldn't be like... Deville and Obo are feuding over a title, let's throw Burton into the mix. That is bad. But... if Burton has had good matches with the two individuals leading up to the match, and the character feels he is being neglected for the title opportunity he deserves... then it would make sense to add him. As Obo stated before, the twist of him and Deville being added was a good twist as it is logical. The drama just came up because of the afformentioned part 1.
Wayne and Yukio should work together on booking cards... as mentioned above in everyone's post. I think one of the main problems is that Yukio is spread too thin. Once he gives control to Thunder, it will improve... I guarantee that.
And also... I think inflamatory comments need to go down. I know we have gotten really used to each other joking around on here... but I have seen some stuff that even in my wildest imagination could not be considered a joke.
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Post by Thunder on Jan 31, 2008 14:53:03 GMT -5
First thing would be to simply dispose of an excess belts. I would keep tag, wfwf, and national. The people who lost their belts would be some how compensated in some way. I would also keep one belt simply called "The House Show Title"...that title would allow that one person to make semi-regular appearances on the main card as well as still be on the HS. It would prolly only be defended at a ppv. All new ppl will be on HS till deemed ready and there would be no give on that. On occasion on a special card or PPV there might be a little give but most of them would end up on some pre-show for ppv's. Once your ready you would be given a chance to show your stuff on a main card, if you step up then your moved up. The roster thread would be split into 2 sections. It would be split into HS and Main Card. This would keep it so that we know who is on what show. !NO MORE TWISTS AND TURNS!I would make sure that you are on the level you are on. You would get chances to do better but you would have to prove you can do it and not let me down. Storylines: ARE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY!!!! I would work closely with the main champions and number one contenders BUT it will still be their responsibility to beef up the feuds and angles. Also if you needed help finding someone or coming up with something, I would help you get something going and help you on a needed basis. Judging: A winner is a winner when the out rp the other, no other reason will be able to detour that unless both parties have agreed. If judging is split down the middle then a third, well knowledged party, would break it. Owners would converse regularly and keep absolute track of what both are receiving. PPV cards would be based on feuds, if you do not have a feud going you may be placed in a match randomly. Again its your responsibility to keep track of your feud and build on it. There would also be NO story lines or angles on HS. Sorry, its a training and will only be aimless matches with short results, its to build your rp ability not angle and storylines. Sooo yea...thats most of what I would do, besides providing an open ear to all about ideas and such for their characters or the fed in general. Revvie ;D Rev pretty much said it all here, but I'll add another thing to the twists. Twists work ONLY when it's something that no one sees coming and MAKES PERFECT SENSE. You want a twist that once someone sees it they immediately put together the pieces and understand why that happened. |
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Post by Calvin on Jan 31, 2008 15:03:55 GMT -5
well, to rebuttal.
The house shows are suppose to bel ike this. The house shows pretty much are here for all new comers. They decide who stays. Usually, you will stay if you rp. The raeson half the people no show is well, they post a bio and never are hear dof again. It happens. Better onthe house show them main board.
Absolutely NOT. Two shows means the owners have more work load. Late results already have pointed out that they have problems dealing with the work load now. Plus, that means more titles. We already have too many titles as it is. Two shows will destroy out main event stage. We've tried this before. It fails, miserbly.
The whole cleaning up spam is ki nda stupid because unless we get reported no one is even going to see it. Two, Burton and Obo both kinda arent' next in line. If anything EBR Al, and Thunder, but Thunder has house shows now and it's kinda dumb to have the house show guy lead the main show too, as yukio showed us.
What we need, is simple. Feuds. Ideas. No more stupid stipulations. We need ORGANIZATION. Like I said, I challenge Yukio and Wayne to change things up or drop down in a month to let new comers take over.
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Post by ZMaster on Feb 8, 2008 15:15:38 GMT -5
As somebody who was owner before, I'll go ahead and give my own take.
A brand split I don't see it working at all. I see this suggested and to be honest, I think it would cause more problems than it needs to. You'd have it being like a WWE clone and to be honest that's not necessary. This was suggested when myself and FLAPS were owners and I was the one that was against the idea but I did have a 2nd show though. Only add another if it's necessary and will work. A booking plan is try to book everyone, if they're not one show, book them on the other.
House Shows can develop talent if they are especially given direction on what to work on. This is something the RPers need to do and that's actually reply to rps instead of spamming up the WFWF Discussion as if that's much more important. Once Thunder takes command, it should work out. My suggestion would be evaluate the talent and see who should go on the main shows and go from there. I'm guessing Thunder will be doing that.
Twists can be used if done right and make sense. Can't have twists for the sake of having them.
Slow down on the stipulation bouts. Not every match needs one. If it's a major feud and it calls for it, then that's fine. If it's just for a PPV match, then make it singles 1st and then go from there.
Another thing I notice is constant deadline extensions. Once in a while but it seems there never is a concrete deadline. Not a knock on the owners but it seems to happen a lot.
As far as feuds, that's up to everyone involved to do their part and get it set up the way you guys want it. As far as who wins, let the RPs determine that though I'm pretty sure that still happens here.
As long as the owners work together, it'll work out. I think WFWF may need a bit of a reboot for some reason. I've seen problems coming up and maybe that's what it will take. Start fresh after Super Brawl V and go from there. This happened before I believe in early 2004 after Super Brawl 2 (think that's the name).
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