What if WCW won?

[theoutlaw1999]

OK that would never have happened by what if in a crazy alternate universe WWE lost the Monday Night Wars and went out of business how would WCW have looked from then to now?

New guys like Orton, Cena, Lesnar probably would've joined and may have been the future like they were in the WWE but what about the current WWE stars from 2001?

Would Vince have joined as an Authority figure like Bishoff did with the WWE and lets look at Austin, The Rock, HHH, Kane, Taker, Angle etc they were some of the biggest draws of wrestling at the time so if WCW bought their contracts would they have been used as midcard talent and jobbers like WWE did with WCW guys?

Also the Roster would've been huge so would WCW have done a brand split and would we have a DX invasion along with a returning Shawn Michaels debuting in WCW and lets not forget the guys that have debut from 2002/now.

What I'm basically trying to ask is would WCW have looked similar to the WWE from after the Monday Night Wars ended?

[Thunder Chunky]

No, probably not. No way in hell would Vince be an on screen authority figure for WCW. His ego is too big.

Cena, Orton, Lesnar, and Batista would have never became the mega stars they are today. With guys like Booker, Steiner, Goldberg, and DDP still headlining in WCW, and then the new talent from WWE coming in, no chance that those 4 would ever become the main guys.

[drifter]

Honestly, I don't think WCW would be around today if they had won. You have to remember, the mess that was behind the scenes, even when Bischoff was in charge. In terms of having wrestling continue on in a a big form, the right company won. While WWE dropped a lot since then, they're still around, and I really think WCW wouldn't have.
I don't think Orton would have been guaranteed as a future star in WCW. Part of what helped him when he joined, was being Bob Orton's son. Cena also, not a guarantee either. Remember, until they had the Smackdown Halloween show where he was Vanilla Ice, leading to the gimmick change, he was on a path toe mediocrity in WWE.
Austin, since he had had the health problems since the initial neck injury would have likely just retired then, my guess is Rock might have tried to leave for Hollywood sooner.

[A-Rob]

The Wrestling Industry would be in big trouble, since WCW would have went out of business down the line since it was to much of a mess.

[theoutlaw1999]

Jun 22, 2015 15:59:30 GMT -5 Thunder Chunky said:

No, probably not. No way in hell would Vince be an on screen authority figure for WCW. His ego is too big.

Cena, Orton, Lesnar, and Batista would have never became the mega stars they are today. With guys like Booker, Steiner, Goldberg, and DDP still headlining in WCW, and then the new talent from WWE coming in, no chance that those 4 would ever become the main guys.

I think Lesnar would've stood a chance because with his size and wrestling ability he could've had monster feuds with the likes of Golderg and Steiner.

Batista however probably wouldn't have even debut. He failed in the WCW Powerplant so there's no way he would've been given a contract. 

[Deleted]

I've always wondered what would have happened if WCW had won. It's crazy to think about. Like, would WCW even still be around had it won? It also probably means that TNA never would have become a thing either.

[Deleted]

Lesnar may not have had his MMA career. His mindset is similar to that of Nash's, and many of WCW's top stars: Work less dates, make more money. I think he would have been quite content with the schedule in WCW, and would be considerably different today.

Hogan probably would of come back in the end, and been at the top for another 10 years. That's not a good thing.

[King Richius]

I'm gonna' go out on a limb and say that a lot of the wrestlers who jumped from WCW to WWE (Jericho, Eddie, Mysterio, etc.) as well as talent from the bankrupt ECW would have made their way to ROH to join rising stars like AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, Bryan Danielson, Low-Ki, the Briscoes, etc. Since Jeff Jarrett was a WCW golden boy in those latter years, I don't think he would leave to form TNA. That means wrestlers like AJ, Samoa Joe, and others couldn't jump to TNA and might not have found (or wanted) a home in WCW. Certainly CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, Tyler Black, etc. couldn't go to WWE. So, I think it is possible that ROH could have expanded faster and assumed the second position behind WCW that TNA did in the mid-2000s as distant second fiddle to WWE. Hell, given the talent that ROH could have filling their roster it is possible they could give serious competition to a WCW filled with wrestlers from the 90s and countless rehashings of the nWo.

I'm not sure where WWE's home grown stars of the past decade would end up in all of this. Some would fit in with WCW (Randy Orton, John Cena, Sheamus) while others would fit well in ROH (John Morrison, Dolph Ziggler, Kofi Kingston, Cody Rhodes) and others would quit the business to pursue other careers (Rock in movies, Lesnar in MMA).

The talent that I would feel worst for is any female wrestlers. WCW never put much of an emphasis on female talent, usually relegating them to eye candy dancing on the announcer's table in short skirts. I don't know if ROH hasn't pushed women's wrestling because they just don't have enough women wrestlers or because they don't want to. In a world where wrestling is dominated by WCW and ROH the women might be sh*t out of luck.

[kazoosandstreamers]

More Disco Inferno matches, I guess.

[Nivro™]

Jun 22, 2015 18:34:45 GMT -5 King Richius said:

I'm gonna' go out on a limb and say that a lot of the wrestlers who jumped from WCW to WWE (Jericho, Eddie, Mysterio, etc.) as well as talent from the bankrupt ECW would have made their way to ROH to join rising stars like AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, Bryan Danielson, Low-Ki, the Briscoes, etc. Since Jeff Jarrett was a WCW golden boy in those latter years, I don't think he would leave to form TNA. That means wrestlers like AJ, Samoa Joe, and others couldn't jump to TNA and might not have found (or wanted) a home in WCW. Certainly CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, Tyler Black, etc. couldn't go to WWE. So, I think it is possible that ROH could have expanded faster and assumed the second position behind WCW that TNA did in the mid-2000s as distant second fiddle to WWE. Hell, given the talent that ROH could have filling their roster it is possible they could give serious competition to a WCW filled with wrestlers from the 90s and countless rehashings of the nWo.

I'm not sure where WWE's home grown stars of the past decade would end up in all of this. Some would fit in with WCW (Randy Orton, John Cena, Sheamus) while others would fit well in ROH (John Morrison, Dolph Ziggler, Kofi Kingston, Cody Rhodes) and others would quit the business to pursue other careers (Rock in movies, Lesnar in MMA).

The talent that I would feel worst for is any female wrestlers. WCW never put much of an emphasis on female talent, usually relegating them to eye candy dancing on the announcer's table in short skirts. I don't know if ROH hasn't pushed women's wrestling because they just don't have enough women wrestlers or because they don't want to. In a world where wrestling is dominated by WCW and ROH the women might be sh*t out of luck.

The problem with that is AJ Styles was in WCW at the time of the closing. I believe Christopher Daniels was as well. Its hard to say "So and So" would have been in ROH because like TNA, ROH probably wouldnt have been around. The key question is all of this is that did WCW win with Time Warner as owners or did WCW win as Eric Bischoff as owner? With Bischoff as owner, I could easily see guys like Guerrero, Benoit, Jericho etc all come back. With TW in charge it could be a different story.

[hbkbigdaddycool]

WCW only lost the war because they pulled WCW off TNT and TBS after the merger with AOL and Time Warner and all that which went down. For WWE to lose the war, every TV network would have had to not want their product on their station. When Raw left USA in the Fall of 2000, you could say that WCW won the war right then if Raw didn't get on The New TNN - which became Spike TV.

If Time Warner would have let WCW stay on TNT and TBS, then still to this very day there would be a WCW Monday Nitro. Eric Bischoff said it best on the old Monday Night War DVD that came out in 2003. "Without TV, WCW was worth $20."

So WCW never really lost the war, and WCW never died because of Hogan, Nash and them, WCW simply died because Time Warner didn't want wrestling on their TV stations anymore.

[mikey1974]

- Austin quits, for good.

- McMahon would NEVER come over! between his ego, and the real hatred between him and Bischoff...would never work.

- HBK definitely comes over, likely a member of nWo 2001 or something.even with his drug problems. WCW didn't care about such things.

- I think Undertaker doesn't come over. he was too much of a WWF loyalist. maybe goes to ROH in the scenario Richius put out there.

- The Rock... depends of what time frame it happened in. if it was post- The Mummy Returns, I think Dwayne just goes to Hollywood.

- guys who would be brought in : Cena, Orton,Batista, Billy Gunn, Chyna,Hardy Boyz,Angle, Edge, Christian,Raven.

- guys who would be screwed - Triple H, Road Dogg, X-Pac, Big Show, Y2J, Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn, Dudley Boyz

[Deleted]

for WCW to win......it would mean the following never happened

Austin never develops as a character into Stone Cold....he won the damn war backed up the hot as f*ck Rock and DX.

No Stone Cold/Rock/DX = a world I dont want any effin part of.

[TheXtremisT]

There's too many factors to say "this would have happened" or "so-and-so would have done this". A lot of you are saying how it would have panned out at a certain part of time (eg 2000), but for them to have won, you would have to go back to 1998 and not have WCW squander things or the execs at AOL/Time Warner backing them. To that point, who knows what would have happened in 1998-2001.

WWF was gaining serious momentum, and to undo all of that, you would rewrite the course of history in a MAJOR way. Not as simple as "a, b, c and d wrestler goes there..." or whatever.

So there can be endless speculation, and I know you've all given some great thoughts already. But I'd like to explore what could have happened before 2000.


Oh and my favorite thing about this - scientists say there are infinite universes out there, with infinite scenarios, anything you could imagine.

Therefore, in another universe, WCW did indeed win the monday night war.

[JC Motors]

I think that WCW would have probably not signed the entire WWF roster like WWF did when they bought WCW

[Brad]

Wrestling would be worse off than it is now.

[Deleted]

I think we'd see more tragedies in the industry. They didn't care about drug problems or steroid use. Hell, the Benoit tragedy could've happened way sooner. What if HBK went over and never found Jesus?

[Deleted]

'What if?'

Yeah...too many of those to even start...

[Nivro™]

I can promise you this. If WCW won the war, you wouldnt have seen a bunch of ing WWF jobbers like Val Venis & D'Lo on Thunder getting beat my Jarrett & Nash. WCW would have only paid for the biggest names to be squashed.