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Post by theMOESIAH on Jan 29, 2015 15:27:13 GMT -5
Stop posting this bullcrap from Madden. The title clearly states that this was not written by Mark Madden.
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Post by Brad on Jan 29, 2015 15:31:03 GMT -5
One thing that baffles me is the so called wrestling fans that want the network to fail. The ones that are happy to take shots at it or to discredit the success it's had. I don't get it either. WWE Network is a wrestling fans dream. I think you have too many people who would just rather bitch about WWE than quiet frankly take advantage of them for the insane deal they have given us.
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Post by torriefan4life on Jan 29, 2015 15:31:19 GMT -5
It is an odd way to celebrate 1 million subscribers by giving February for free. They must not think the numbers will hold strong after the Rumble.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 15:36:37 GMT -5
Stop posting this bullcrap from Madden. The title clearly states that this was not written by Mark Madden. Read the title wrong, and seeing as you post everything Mark Madden writes, I wouldn't have been shocked. Either way, no, they aren't lying about subscribers. Anyone saying otherwise is flat out wrong.
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Post by The Yes Man on Jan 29, 2015 15:45:51 GMT -5
I actually cancelled The Network after the Rumble but had planned to do so before the hashtag thing. My basic, short and simple reasons are: 1) It's not compatible with Chromecast, so I have to watch it on my laptop. If I could use Chromecast to send it to my television then I might go back to it. 2) I realized that I got it for NXT but that and other shows are on Hulu +, which I also have and will keep so I can watch other television shows because I don't have cable. I got The Network back in November when it was free and was watching it a lot that month, then not as much during December and the first time I remember going to the site for it in January was the Rumble so I just concluded it wasn't necessary. I highly doubt that *I* will do something so as to make it compatible with my television so for me it's on their end to make it work with Chromecast because both Hulu + and Netflix do. Geez, even YouTube works with Chromecast and it's mostly free. To me those are more valid reasons than "Boo hoo, the guy I wanted to win didn't win. Cancel the network!" I didn't want Roman to win either. But I'm not gonna shoot myself in the foot just to "prove a point to WWE" I don't think you really need a more valid reason than what they have. "I'm not happy with this, so I'm not giving it my money" is perfectly valid. It'd be like if I hated the Big Mac, but still went to McDonalds everyday and ordered the Big Mac.
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Post by rustyy on Jan 29, 2015 15:50:36 GMT -5
I honestly can't believe the network hasn't been a smash success. I know I for one would be very bummed if they stopped it. I can easily believe it. Wrestling is a fairly niche product. A service like Netflix has something for everyone, all kinda of movies and tv for a similar price point. WWE shouldn't have included the live monthly PPVs in with the network. They've really shot themselves in the foot with that. It's the only selling point for casuals. Most don't care about the AE/anything in the past. They've screwed themselves either way, now they can't go back to PPV, and they can't raise the network price because fans don't buy it now. It wouldn't shock me to see WWE lie about numbers, isn't that what screwed them at first when he lost like 750 mil in a day?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 15:53:27 GMT -5
To me those are more valid reasons than "Boo hoo, the guy I wanted to win didn't win. Cancel the network!" I didn't want Roman to win either. But I'm not gonna shoot myself in the foot just to "prove a point to WWE" I don't think you really need a more valid reason than what they have. "I'm not happy with this, so I'm not giving it my money" is perfectly valid. It'd be like if I hated the Big Mac, but still went to McDonalds everyday and ordered the Big Mac. That's not an accurate analogy at all. The Network offers much more content that is much different from the current product. All McDonald's burgers taste pretty much the same. If you don't like the current product, there are still hundreds of videos of old content to watch from a time when you did enjoy the product. Not to mention, NXT and the original shows that are pretty solid. I don't think cancelling because of one bad event to be valid. It's just a case of people whining and crying because they don't agree with the result. Most people disagree with the result of the rumble, or at least how it was booked, but they don't kick and scream and cry because ReignsWinslolz. It's more like going to McDonalds, and they forgot the toy in your happy meal, because the people cancelling over one event are basically acting like children.
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Post by JC Motors on Jan 29, 2015 15:58:27 GMT -5
Face it WWE network has about as many subscribers as there were people who watched the XFL
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Post by The Yes Man on Jan 29, 2015 15:58:30 GMT -5
I don't think you really need a more valid reason than what they have. "I'm not happy with this, so I'm not giving it my money" is perfectly valid. It'd be like if I hated the Big Mac, but still went to McDonalds everyday and ordered the Big Mac. That's not an accurate analogy at all. The Network offers much more content that is much different from the current product. All McDonald's burgers taste pretty much the same. If you don't like the current product, there are still hundreds of videos of old content to watch from a time when you did enjoy the product. Not to mention, NXT and the original shows that are pretty solid. I don't think cancelling because of one bad event to be valid. It's just a case of people whining and crying because they don't agree with the result. Most people disagree with the result of the rumble, or at least how it was booked, but they don't kick and scream and cry because ReignsWinslolz. It's more like going to McDonalds, and they forgot the toy in your happy meal, because the people cancelling over one event are basically acting like children. I agree, it's a great value but if people were gonna miss it that much they wouldn't have cancelled. But, many people get it just for the monthly PPV, and a lot of the people that cancelled probably only get it for the Network.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 16:00:08 GMT -5
That's not an accurate analogy at all. The Network offers much more content that is much different from the current product. All McDonald's burgers taste pretty much the same. If you don't like the current product, there are still hundreds of videos of old content to watch from a time when you did enjoy the product. Not to mention, NXT and the original shows that are pretty solid. I don't think cancelling because of one bad event to be valid. It's just a case of people whining and crying because they don't agree with the result. Most people disagree with the result of the rumble, or at least how it was booked, but they don't kick and scream and cry because ReignsWinslolz. It's more like going to McDonalds, and they forgot the toy in your happy meal, because the people cancelling over one event are basically acting like children. I agree, it's a great value but if people were gonna miss it that much they wouldn't have cancelled. But, many people get it just for the monthly PPV, and a lot of the people that cancelled probably only get it for the Network. I can understand if people are cancelling if they're ONLY using it for current product PPVs. I just don't understand why you'd even bother with it if that's the case. There are a ton of other...alternatives, that provide the same quality half the time.
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Post by k5 on Jan 29, 2015 16:03:59 GMT -5
The title clearly states that this was not written by Mark Madden. Read the title wrong, and seeing as you post everything Mark Madden writes, I wouldn't have been shocked. Either way, no, they aren't lying about subscribers. Anyone saying otherwise is flat out wrong. and how do you know this as fact?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 16:15:29 GMT -5
Read the title wrong, and seeing as you post everything Mark Madden writes, I wouldn't have been shocked. Either way, no, they aren't lying about subscribers. Anyone saying otherwise is flat out wrong. and how do you know this as fact? Pretty simple, common sense.
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Post by k5 on Jan 29, 2015 16:17:14 GMT -5
and how do you know this as fact? Pretty simple, common sense. any time you wanna get off your horse you'll realize that in no way certifies it as a fact.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 16:18:33 GMT -5
Pretty simple, common sense. any time you wanna get off your horse you'll realize that in no way certifies it as a fact. Or you can do some research on the matter and find that the only people questioning the number are idiots in the wrestling community. Nobody else. You could also realize there's no reason to lie about the number before the quarterly reports come out. Either or. Take your pick.
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Post by k5 on Jan 29, 2015 16:23:57 GMT -5
any time you wanna get off your horse you'll realize that in no way certifies it as a fact. Or you can do some research on the matter and find that the only people questioning the number are idiots in the wrestling community. Nobody else. You could also realize there's no reason to lie about the number before the quarterly reports come out. Either or. Take your pick. both of those may support your theory, but that still in no way shape or form makes it a fact. you're wrong anyways - the article that this very thread references ( 247wallst.com/) is absolutely not a wrestling community based website - it's a stock finance opinion/news website.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 16:26:23 GMT -5
Or you can do some research on the matter and find that the only people questioning the number are idiots in the wrestling community. Nobody else. You could also realize there's no reason to lie about the number before the quarterly reports come out. Either or. Take your pick. both of those may support your theory, but that still in no way shape or form makes it a fact. you're wrong anyways - the article that this very thread references ( 247wallst.com/) is absolutely not a wrestling community based website - it's a stock finance opinion/news website. Interesting, considering the same site has an article saying they can't "pin them down" as in keep them subscribed, not that the number is wrong. But no, they're obviously calling them liars. The full article it seems is the one I'm referring to. It says nothing about them failing to reach the number, but rather sustaining that number. Nobody is legitimately questioning it.
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Post by BCizzle on Jan 29, 2015 16:29:07 GMT -5
The WWE would never, eeeeeever lie to us.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 16:30:18 GMT -5
The WWE would never, eeeeeever lie to us. It's not about "us." If they were caught lying about this number, it would kind of piss off their share holders. That's a big deal.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jan 29, 2015 16:46:08 GMT -5
The WWE would never, eeeeeever lie to us. It's not about "us." If they were caught lying about this number, it would kind of piss off their share holders. That's a big deal. I was gonna mention something about that. Wouldn't they get in serious trouble with their shareholders if they lied about the number of subscribers the Network had? I'm not sure too familiar with the stock market and what they could get away with, so that's why I ask.
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Post by k5 on Jan 29, 2015 16:55:06 GMT -5
both of those may support your theory, but that still in no way shape or form makes it a fact. you're wrong anyways - the article that this very thread references ( 247wallst.com/) is absolutely not a wrestling community based website - it's a stock finance opinion/news website. Interesting, considering the same site has an article saying they can't "pin them down" as in keep them subscribed, not that the number is wrong. But no, they're obviously calling them liars. The full article it seems is the one I'm referring to. It says nothing about them failing to reach the number, but rather sustaining that number. Nobody is legitimately questioning it. from my understanding of it, the issue is that they are implying the network is a success in having a million subscribers, but in reality it's dwindling a degree. 'lie' is a bit of a stretch i suppose, as most corporate businesses attempt to keep face to a degree. i agree with you that they wouldn't full out lie about their numbers.
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