Question about Undertaker

[Duke Silver]

Did The Undertaker ever refuse to put someone over? With over 20+ years, I never heard about him refusing when you hear about other top guys having a history of not putting someone over because of such-and-such.

Just curious if anyone on here has ever heard of Taker refusing to putting someone over.

[gravedigger3]

Aug 17, 2013 20:18:06 GMT -5 Duke Silver said:

Did The Undertaker ever refuse to put someone over? With over 20+ years, I never heard about him refusing when you hear about other top guys having a history of not putting someone over because of such-and-such.

Just curious if anyone on here has ever heard of Taker refusing to putting someone over.

I don't believe he has he even wanted several people o break the streak and wanted to work a program with some people that you would be surprise to hear about (hardcore holly)

[Johnny Wrestling]

Aug 17, 2013 20:48:06 GMT -5 gravedigger3 said:

Aug 17, 2013 20:18:06 GMT -5 Duke Silver said:

Did The Undertaker ever refuse to put someone over? With over 20+ years, I never heard about him refusing when you hear about other top guys having a history of not putting someone over because of such-and-such.

Just curious if anyone on here has ever heard of Taker refusing to putting someone over.

I don't believe he has he even wanted several people o break the streak and wanted to work a program with some people that you would be surprise to hear about (hardcore holly)

One of them being Kurt Angle.

[Captain McKay]

That's a good question. Everything I've heard seems to show that he had no problem putting people over. I remember in The Rock's book, when he talked about a match with Undertaker and how Rock was just starting to be a prominent main-event guy. He knew he was winning the match, so he asked Undertaker how he should go over, and Undertaker responded with something like "hit me with the Rock Bottom in the middle of the ring." Undertaker is just one of those guys who's always been business, and he manages to never really look weak when he loses, which is something that makes him so awesome.

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The Undertaker not only refused to work with people and put people over, but he also caused The Spellbinder (Phantasio) to be fired because Taker felt his gimmick was too close to his own (or so Spellbinder says). 

[cordless2016]

From what I've read and heard Taker is one of the few guys who has never refused to put someone over, atleast since he has been a top name. I've read stories and rumors over the years about so many guys refusing to put others over and Taker, Foley, and Rocky are the only super over/main event guys from the WWF who I've never heard anything about holding other back. Just personal experience and could be wrong.

I have heard that he was trying to push the idea strong to Vince about putting Randy Orton over at WM21 since he felt Randy was bigger for their future. Kurt Angle has also claimed that Taker wanted to put him over at WM22. Just rumors but I've never heard anything to rebuff them.

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Aug 17, 2013 22:38:34 GMT -5 @stingersplash84 said:

The Undertaker not only refused to work with people and put people over, but he also caused The Spellbinder (Phantasio) to be fired because Taker felt his gimmick was too close to his own (or so Spellbinder says). 

Who/what/when the hell is this?

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Aug 18, 2013 0:11:03 GMT -5 @bashcrashwiley said:

Aug 17, 2013 22:38:34 GMT -5 @stingersplash84 said:

The Undertaker not only refused to work with people and put people over, but he also caused The Spellbinder (Phantasio) to be fired because Taker felt his gimmick was too close to his own (or so Spellbinder says). 

Who/what/when the hell is this?

Phantasio was a pretty successful indy wrestler in the mid 90's named Harry Del Rios. He was known as The Spellbinder in the indys. He wrestled a handful of matches in the WWF in the summer of 1995. He claims, and others in the locker room at the time support his claims, that he was released from the WWF because the Undertaker felt that his gimmick too closely mirrored his own. 

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Didn't Undertaker get Chainz fired?

[mikey1974]

Aug 18, 2013 8:07:41 GMT -5 @cabbageconkers said:

Didn't Undertaker get Chainz fired?

doubt it. Chainz -aka Brian Lee - was one of Taker's best friends. hell,they brought him in as the fake Undertaker in 1994 because Taker suggested he would be perfect for the role. unless they had a falling out or something.

not exactly refusing to do a job,but Taker refused to work with HBK for many years.not because of anything personal,he just felt that people wouldn't view a small guy like Michaels as a legitimate threat to Undertaker. once DX was being formed,and Vince went to Taker about the feud in 1997,he was okay with it because ,Shawn would have backup,and by that point had defeated some bigger guys ( Diesel,Vader,Sid)

[Raine]

Chainz was also Taker's best man at his wedding

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Aug 18, 2013 8:21:05 GMT -5 mikey1974 said:

Aug 18, 2013 8:07:41 GMT -5 @cabbageconkers said:

Didn't Undertaker get Chainz fired?

doubt it. Chainz -aka Brian Lee - was one of Taker's best friends. hell,they brought him in as the fake Undertaker in 1994 because Taker suggested he would be perfect for the role. unless they had a falling out or something.

not exactly refusing to do a job,but Taker refused to work with HBK for many years.not because of anything personal,he just felt that people wouldn't view a small guy like Michaels as a legitimate threat to Undertaker. once DX was being formed,and Vince went to Taker about the feud in 1997,he was okay with it because ,Shawn would have backup,and by that point had defeated some bigger guys ( Diesel,Vader,Sid)

I'm pretty sure I read that Taker got him fired 'cause he slept with his wife but I could be wrong.

[mikey1974]

it's certainly possible! I just know from like the early 90's to 1997-1998 they were best buds and used to ride together whenever possible...

after that? who knows....

[Deleted]

yeah I havent heard anything in this respect either.

I mean....he allowed Great Khali to pin him with one foot.

[savage]

Look at all the guys that have defeated Undertaker. I think anyone that deserved a win over Taker eventually got one.

[joesgonnakillu]

I have heard that Taker pushed HARD for Kane to be the one to end the streak

[Danger10]

Aug 18, 2013 8:33:23 GMT -5 @cabbageconkers said:

Aug 18, 2013 8:21:05 GMT -5 mikey1974 said:

doubt it. Chainz -aka Brian Lee - was one of Taker's best friends. hell,they brought him in as the fake Undertaker in 1994 because Taker suggested he would be perfect for the role. unless they had a falling out or something.

not exactly refusing to do a job,but Taker refused to work with HBK for many years.not because of anything personal,he just felt that people wouldn't view a small guy like Michaels as a legitimate threat to Undertaker. once DX was being formed,and Vince went to Taker about the feud in 1997,he was okay with it because ,Shawn would have backup,and by that point had defeated some bigger guys ( Diesel,Vader,Sid)

I'm pretty sure I read that Taker got him fired 'cause he slept with his wife but I could be wrong.

I heard this rumor about his wife too, don't know if it's true or not. Wasn't Taker best friends with Crush not Brian Lee, or was he good friends with both?

[Mike Giggs' Munchies]

Aug 17, 2013 23:39:26 GMT -5 cordless2016 said:

From what I've read and heard Taker is one of the few guys who has never refused to put someone over, atleast since he has been a top name. I've read stories and rumors over the years about so many guys refusing to put others over and Taker, Foley, and Rocky are the only super over/main event guys from the WWF who I've never heard anything about holding other back. Just personal experience and could be wrong.

I have heard that he was trying to push the idea strong to Vince about putting Randy Orton over at WM21 since he felt Randy was bigger for their future. Kurt Angle has also claimed that Taker wanted to put him over at WM22. Just rumors but I've never heard anything to rebuff them.

Yeah, those 3 are the only top guys I can think of where I've never heard of them refusing to put someone over. Shocking how many big guys have refused to do jobs despite it being such a key part of the business.

Actually, come to think of it, were there ever strong rumours of Cena flat out refusing to lose? As far as I'm aware his incessant winning is all WWE not him.

[mikey1974]

he was good friends with both. from what I've heard,he was instrumental in pushing Vince to bring Crush back in late 1996. and getting Lee his first job in the WWF (as fake Undertaker) in 1994,and then again to come back in 1997 as part of DOA.

[Dante, The Voc]

Aug 18, 2013 15:50:56 GMT -5 Mike Giggs' Munchies said:

Aug 17, 2013 23:39:26 GMT -5 cordless2016 said:

From what I've read and heard Taker is one of the few guys who has never refused to put someone over, atleast since he has been a top name. I've read stories and rumors over the years about so many guys refusing to put others over and Taker, Foley, and Rocky are the only super over/main event guys from the WWF who I've never heard anything about holding other back. Just personal experience and could be wrong.

I have heard that he was trying to push the idea strong to Vince about putting Randy Orton over at WM21 since he felt Randy was bigger for their future. Kurt Angle has also claimed that Taker wanted to put him over at WM22. Just rumors but I've never heard anything to rebuff them.

Yeah, those 3 are the only top guys I can think of where I've never heard of them refusing to put someone over. Shocking how many big guys have refused to do jobs despite it being such a key part of the business.

Actually, come to think of it, were there ever strong rumours of Cena flat out refusing to lose? As far as I'm aware his incessant winning is all WWE not him.

The only story I've heard about Cena not wanting to do the job was last year's WM but I'm 95% sure that's BS.