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Post by wyleecyotee on Aug 15, 2013 18:07:08 GMT -5
Couldn't really think of a better title to the thread So to the point, is there a PPV you dont like/ thinks a load of poop but everyone else thinks its WM17 reincarnated? While were on it, is there also a PPV you realy like but everyone else thinks its a load of garbage? I might as well start off. WrestleMania 28 seems to be a highly ranked WrestleMania to most people I see talk about it, I hated it. Everything from the set up, entrance stage, show outline and results just didn't do it for me at all. Rock/Cena was worse than HHH/Orton, at least that had a basic match structure instead of "Rock bottom and AA, rinse and repeat" and it was topped of with Bryan loosing in 18 seconds. I would say it was a very memorable moment but I felt it would better serve in the Rhodes/Show match and Bryan/Sheamus showed at Extreme Rules a month later that there match could have been a WrestleMania classic. The fans where unbelievably pumped for Bryan, there was just a great atmosphere about the match and then boom, the match was done and the life was sucked away from the event for me. Its a shame because Orton/Kane was a good match but I didn't really care because of the previous result. WrestleMania 9 is one of my favourite Manias, some of it is nostalgia but seeing it always ranked as #1/2 worst Mania so widely always comes with a bit of surprise from me. I can see why it has hate but theres a lot of PPVs that could fall into that category but dont. WrestleMania 17 had a "screwy ending" but its basically the best PPV in Wrestling arguably. A lot of people do hold Hogan winning the belt as the reason which seems to be how people judge WrestleManias, how they end rather than the show. WM25 was a good PPV overall but the lackluster Main Event killed it, WM 18 is almost the same. WM11 could have been so much better with slight adjustments and WM6 to me is a one match show but it was the match that counts to make it great. Well there a bit of nonsense and rambling in there but you get the general idea... discuss
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2013 18:13:52 GMT -5
for me its Summerslam 92.
I dont mind it.....but its far from the great event it was made out to be IMO.
Savage vs Warrior I felt was a directionless failure.
one of the most undeserving set of tag champs ever-The Natural Disasters defended against jobbers The Beverly Brothers
IMO Bret Hart saved the PPV all on his own.....because Bulldog didnt help things as we all know.
I LOVED LODS & Undertakers entrances though
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Post by wyleecyotee on Aug 15, 2013 18:26:30 GMT -5
Yeah I notice a lot of "great PPVs" hinge on one match. Its slightly annoying to me when people cant distinguish between what classifies as a good match and a good PPV but I'd go mad if it annoyed me too much.
Its funny to agree with you on SS92 as its the only big UK PPV but its one of those where Bret Hart/British Bulldog really did end the show on such a positive note that there rest was shaded over and all its faults forgotten. I still love watching it though.
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Post by Barney Stinson on Aug 15, 2013 18:47:05 GMT -5
WrestleMania XIX. Do I think it's a good show yeah. Do I think it's the god of all shows, no. The card was stacked, but Booker was made to look inferior to Triple H from the start, by that point I was sick of Austin/Rock, it must have been their 3000th televised match by that point. Still good, but like this year, I wasn't looking to see matches I've already seen. Vince & Hogan was an attraction that was better than I thought. And Angle & Lesnar was pretty good considering Angle was hurt. HBK & Jericho stole the show, the Cruiserweight Match was too short, the Diva's match was actually quite good and I don't even remember anything about the Tag Title Match. Let's not forget RVD/Kane v. Storm/Venis being bumped for the Catfight Girls. I think my problem with that show is that it was too "Top Heavy". So many guys were left off the actual show (RVD, Kane, Storm, Venis, Dudleys, Christian, Jeff Hardy, Scott Steiner, Goldust, Kidman, Cena, FBI, Tajiri, Hurricane), that it felt like something was missing. I think if there was a MITB with those guys and the other Tag Title match on the show and no catfight girls, I would probably rank it better.
I also agree about SS92 and think while Bret/Bulldog was good, it wasn't as great as people make it out to be. Put that match anywhere but Wembley that night, you have an average show at best.
I also love WMIX because it was the first PPV I ever watched live. Sure all of the matches and endings weren't ideal, but it brings back fond memories for me so I will always like it. Plus Tatanka/HBK was great and so was The Steiners v. Headshrinkers. Crush v. Doink was better than I thought and Ramon/Backlund was good but too short.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Aug 15, 2013 19:30:35 GMT -5
Wrestlemania X-Seven wasn't nearly as good as everyone praises it for. The TLC match wasn't as good as its prequel or even the Triangle Ladder Match from the year before. The ending to the main event was one of the biggest disappointments in the event's history.
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Post by Nivro™ on Aug 15, 2013 19:31:33 GMT -5
Wrestlemania X-Seven
I really dont understand the whole "cream my pants" over the event. Just running through the matches, Jericho vs Regal was a good match, great for an opening match but it wasnt anything like a 5 star classic and only went on for like 5 minutes. The whole 6 man tag match was just a waste IMO. The Hardcore Title match had its moments but like most things Hardcore, the whole thing was really getting old by that point. Added to that, the only "Hardcore" guy in the match was Raven...just seemed, odd. Eddie Guerrero was a great worker and probably could have had a hell of a match at WM17 but they paired him with Test who IMO was one of the most boring wrestlers of the Attitude Era. Benoit vs Angle was easily match of the night in the non spot fest category. Just a great pure classic match. Chyna vs Ivory and Shane vs Vince were both bathroom breaks. Not only a piss break but you could squeeze out a doo-doo also to kill nearly 20 mins. TLC was an exciting match. Many consider it the match of the night (which I can understand), it just comes down to what type of fan you are. The Gimmick battle royal was enjoyable from an old school stand point but could have easily been moved to a pre show. Taker vs Triple H was a decent match at best but the value of the match has really gone down since both have had much better matches against each other in the past couple Manias. Rock vs Austin was just.....I dont know. It seemed like it was just thrown together. You try and turn your biggest star heel (which flops), then you try to put two huge rivals together in a giant swerve...and it flops...The ending was very anti-climatic...Just a very meh event for me.
Honorable Mentions
-IYH Canadian Stampede- Great main event, suck ass undercard.
-ECW One Night Stand (either version)- It was over with, the idea behind it was great but some things cant be duplicated.
-MITB '11- The crowd reaction to Punk was completely amazing but the match had a lot to be desired and the undercard was a typical hot/cold WWE Event.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2013 19:34:24 GMT -5
Haven't seen enough ppvs for the first question
I like WrestleMania XV but most people just like Rock and Austin
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Aug 15, 2013 22:09:04 GMT -5
This doesn't fit into the category really, but I always had a problem with WrestleMania 15. Despite the huge popularity boom for the business I really think this show was totally underwhelming.
There were so many pointless matches. Billy Gunn and Road Dogg swapping places in their matches remains a mystery. D'Lo and Test made absolutely no sense. The punchline that was the Brawl for All finals. Sable versus Tori had no real history. Undertaker and Boss Man was possibly the worst Hell in the Cell ever. I did like the Shane/X-Pac match and was shocked when HHH turned heel. Still, even Austin versus The Rock was mediocre. The match was okay it's just that I had a hard time believing Stone Cold was going to lose.
I always found it pretty unacceptable that the show was THAT bad considering how hot the WWF and pro wrestling were at the time. It should've been a classic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2013 23:42:57 GMT -5
I never liked Wrestlemania 20. At all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 2:34:39 GMT -5
WrestleMania X-Seven. When I sat down and was gonna watch it I was expecting the most amazing show off my life cause that is how people talk about it. I was mildly entertained by the gimmick battle royal and Undertaker vs HHH. The rest wasn't all that great in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 6:11:02 GMT -5
I like WM17 and Invasion but the endings of both with Austins ridiculous heel turns have sullied both for me permanently.
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Post by Infinite on Aug 16, 2013 6:14:33 GMT -5
Canadian Stampede. As Nivro said: great main event, sucky undercard.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 7:36:06 GMT -5
I like Wrestlemania 9 a lot but other people don't seem to like it. Outside of the annoying ending and the Gonzalzer/Taker match the event was pretty good.
Shawn/Tatanka - was a great match (although a rather anti-climactic ending), IMO one of Shawn's best WM matches. Steiners/Headshrinkers - is one of the best worked tag matches ever, IMO. I couldn't say enough good things about it. Razor/Backlund - was a squash, but quite important as it's the first time (to my knowledge) that a heel is cheered over a face in the WWE, especially at a Wrestlemania. Money Inc/Megamaniacs - was a solid tag match, it's a shame the maniacs didn't win the tag titles instead of what happened with the world title later in the event. Doink/Crush - was a solid mid card match and the two Doinks thing was brilliant. Hennig/Luger - was great, I really like the finish. Gonzalez/Undertaker - Sucked ass. BUT, seeing The Undertaker overcome such a huge obstacle is quite a significant moment. Bret/Yoko - was unquestionably the best match that Yokozuna ever had.
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on Aug 16, 2013 8:19:26 GMT -5
Payback 2013.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Aug 16, 2013 10:55:02 GMT -5
TLC 2011...A couple of decent matches and Daniel Bryan cashing in doesn't make for a great PPV in my mind.
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Post by Spear Guy on Aug 16, 2013 11:13:31 GMT -5
Wrestlemania X-Seven I really dont understand the whole "cream my pants" over the event. Just running through the matches, Jericho vs Regal was a good match, great for an opening match but it wasnt anything like a 5 star classic and only went on for like 5 minutes. The whole 6 man tag match was just a waste IMO. The Hardcore Title match had its moments but like most things Hardcore, the whole thing was really getting old by that point. Added to that, the only "Hardcore" guy in the match was Raven...just seemed, odd. Eddie Guerrero was a great worker and probably could have had a hell of a match at WM17 but they paired him with Test who IMO was one of the most boring wrestlers of the Attitude Era. Benoit vs Angle was easily match of the night in the non spot fest category. Just a great pure classic match. Chyna vs Ivory and Shane vs Vince were both bathroom breaks. Not only a piss break but you could squeeze out a doo-doo also to kill nearly 20 mins. TLC was an exciting match. Many consider it the match of the night (which I can understand), it just comes down to what type of fan you are. The Gimmick battle royal was enjoyable from an old school stand point but could have easily been moved to a pre show. Taker vs Triple H was a decent match at best but the value of the match has really gone down since both have had much better matches against each other in the past couple Manias. Rock vs Austin was just.....I dont know. It seemed like it was just thrown together. You try and turn your biggest star heel (which flops), then you try to put two huge rivals together in a giant swerve...and it flops...The ending was very anti-climatic...Just a very meh event for me. Exactly. You put that better than I could have put it. The whole oh my god what an amazing pay per view best ever thing is dumb. X7 was a great event but honestly X8 is way more entertaining imo. Also Mania XIX never really did anything for me... the cat fight bumped real stars off the card which was just sad.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 12:11:24 GMT -5
Wrestlemania XII for me was one of my favourite Wrestlemania shows until one match happened... that being the 60 minute iron man match with Bret and HBK.
And the funny thing is, in my top 5 favourite wrestlers when I was a youngster, it went Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Kevin Nash, Shane Douglas & Barry Windham. So clearly I should have loved the fact that HBK vs. Bret was happening, and for an hour at that!
But all I could do was watch that stupid fecking time on the bottom of the screen count down from 59:59 to finally 0:00. I was so bored of that match. Not even the 'hot spots' in the match could save that match for me, because it went right back to arm bars and arm drags (you would think Chris Jericho must have gotten his 1004 holds from watching that match with how many arm bars there were that night)
The only match that really stood out on that show for me, was Diesel vs. Undertaker. And I know, people say "Nash sucks" or "Nash is lazy" or "Nash is a sh*t disturber" and so forth, but that was probably one of Taker's BEST match that he ever had at a Wrestlemania up to that point. And you can say "Thank you, Mr. Nash" for that.
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Post by mikey1974 on Aug 16, 2013 14:42:05 GMT -5
WrestleMania XV definitely for me. great main event,everything else sucked balls. I know there's quite a bit of love for it out there.
WrestleMania X too. has 2 good matches ( Bret-Owen, HBK-Razor), rest pretty much ranged from super-suck to barely passable. but I know it gets a lot of it's "glow" from those 2 matches....
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 16, 2013 15:49:06 GMT -5
Wrestlemania X-Seven I really dont understand the whole "cream my pants" over the event. Just running through the matches, Jericho vs Regal was a good match, great for an opening match but it wasnt anything like a 5 star classic and only went on for like 5 minutes. The whole 6 man tag match was just a waste IMO. The Hardcore Title match had its moments but like most things Hardcore, the whole thing was really getting old by that point. Added to that, the only "Hardcore" guy in the match was Raven...just seemed, odd. Eddie Guerrero was a great worker and probably could have had a hell of a match at WM17 but they paired him with Test who IMO was one of the most boring wrestlers of the Attitude Era. Benoit vs Angle was easily match of the night in the non spot fest category. Just a great pure classic match. Chyna vs Ivory and Shane vs Vince were both bathroom breaks. Not only a piss break but you could squeeze out a doo-doo also to kill nearly 20 mins. TLC was an exciting match. Many consider it the match of the night (which I can understand), it just comes down to what type of fan you are. The Gimmick battle royal was enjoyable from an old school stand point but could have easily been moved to a pre show. Taker vs Triple H was a decent match at best but the value of the match has really gone down since both have had much better matches against each other in the past couple Manias. Rock vs Austin was just.....I dont know. It seemed like it was just thrown together. You try and turn your biggest star heel (which flops), then you try to put two huge rivals together in a giant swerve...and it flops...The ending was very anti-climatic...Just a very meh event for me. Just my opinion but I'd easily take HHH/Taker at WM17 over their WM27 and WM28 bouts. I totally agree though that the ending to Austin/Rock ruined the match. MITB '11 would be high on my list. Decent matches but the booking was crap. Punk didn't get a clean win over Cena (and never would) so all his promo work building towards the event seemed to lose some luster. Christian continued to be booked as crap as well. After putting Orton over in three straight title fights they couldn't even let him get a pin on the guy. They had him win the title by friggin DQ. The Raw MITB match was lackluster IMO and everyone knew Alberto was winning the match. He was pushed to the moon that year when he didn't deserve it. The SD MITB match was much better and Bryan winning was a great surprise but was really the only bright spot on the card to me. The Divas match was crap (Kelly vs Brie) and Henry/Show was a typical slow, big man match.
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Post by sideeffect on Aug 16, 2013 20:52:19 GMT -5
Bad Blood 1997...i've read lot of people praise this event just because of the HBK/Taker HIAC. The match was good, but doesn't make the PPV the best ever. If it wasn't for HBK/Taker the event was an absolute DUD IMO.
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