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Post by addam on Nov 29, 2007 14:55:41 GMT -5
thanks addam ill keep WF informed alright, i'd like to hear what happens with it, so keep us informed. also, don't listen to everyone trying to tell you to turn him in for his own good or to pay for his mistakes or whatever...they've obviously never had friends before in a real life environment where being a goody-goody & doing the "right thing" isn't always a viable option. i saw all the posts telling you to turn him in & i respect that you did the right thing and didn't listen to them.
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Post by layzie on Nov 29, 2007 14:57:38 GMT -5
i lost faith in like everybody here who's all for turning him in.
ill just lose faith in everybody here to make it easier for myself
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Post by Markw on Nov 29, 2007 15:00:44 GMT -5
thanks addam ill keep WF informed alright, i'd like to hear what happens with it, so keep us informed. also, don't listen to everyone trying to tell you to turn him in for his own good or to pay for his mistakes or whatever...they've obviously never had friends before in a real life environment where being a goody-goody & doing the "right thing" isn't always a viable option. i saw all the posts telling you to turn him in & i respect that you did the right thing and didn't listen to them. In your first post you put only he will be hurt in the long run, what about the people that he steals from, how do you think they feel, I know that it's not good to turn your mates in, but why should you get in trouble for something stupid he did, if I where you I'd turn him in it must be complete S*** being burgled and if it happened to you, you would hate the person thats in your position. Turn him in because it's the right thing to do, he needs to learn from his mistakes and realise just how wrong it is, he's more likely to do that if you turn him in.
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Post by addam on Nov 29, 2007 15:09:36 GMT -5
alright, i'd like to hear what happens with it, so keep us informed. also, don't listen to everyone trying to tell you to turn him in for his own good or to pay for his mistakes or whatever...they've obviously never had friends before in a real life environment where being a goody-goody & doing the "right thing" isn't always a viable option. i saw all the posts telling you to turn him in & i respect that you did the right thing and didn't listen to them. In your first post you put only he will be hurt in the long run, what about the people that he steals from, how do you think they feel, I know that it's not good to turn your mates in, but why should you get in trouble for something stupid he did, if I where you I'd turn him in it must be complete S*** being burgled and if it happened to you, you would hate the person thats in your position. Turn him in because it's the right thing to do, he needs to learn from his mistakes and realise just how wrong it is, he's more likely to do that if you turn him in. i see what you're saying, but if i was in the same situation i would say "i don't know the people he's stealing from, it's not my concern", and that's IF he's a career criminal...maybe he just robbed somebody & that's it & now he's on the run. like i said, unless it's some serious s**t like rape, murder, etc. i'm always gonna put my dudes in front of random people i don't know that he may or may not be robbing. he cut ties with the guy, he's not going to be implicated in anything. his friend is obviously in a bad spot in life so the best thing a friend can do for someone in that situation is let them go do their own thing and not get yourself mixed up in it which is exactly what this guy did. we need more people like this guy on here that don't get their black & white sense of right & wrong from a grade school, "be a good lil' boy & you'll get a gold star "mentality.
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Post by mrlayzie2007 on Nov 29, 2007 16:56:02 GMT -5
thanks addam ill keep WF informed alright, i'd like to hear what happens with it, so keep us informed. also, don't listen to everyone trying to tell you to turn him in for his own good or to pay for his mistakes or whatever...they've obviously never had friends before in a real life environment where being a goody-goody & doing the "right thing" isn't always a viable option. i saw all the posts telling you to turn him in & i respect that you did the right thing and didn't listen to them. thanks it just wouldnt feel right in turning a mate you have known for years in i would feel so bad i just cant do it. In your first post you put only he will be hurt in the long run, what about the people that he steals from, how do you think they feel, I know that it's not good to turn your mates in, but why should you get in trouble for something stupid he did, if I where you I'd turn him in it must be complete S*** being burgled and if it happened to you, you would hate the person thats in your position. Turn him in because it's the right thing to do, he needs to learn from his mistakes and realise just how wrong it is, he's more likely to do that if you turn him in. i see what you're saying, but if i was in the same situation i would say "i don't know the people he's stealing from, it's not my concern", and that's IF he's a career criminal...maybe he just robbed somebody & that's it & now he's on the run. like i said, unless it's some serious s**t like rape, murder, etc. i'm always gonna put my dudes in front of random people i don't know that he may or may not be robbing. he cut ties with the guy, he's not going to be implicated in anything. his friend is obviously in a bad spot in life so the best thing a friend can do for someone in that situation is let them go do their own thing and not get yourself mixed up in it which is exactly what this guy did. we need more people like this guy on here that don't get their black & white sense of right & wrong from a grade school, "be a good lil' boy & you'll get a gold star "mentality. Calm it down i dont want this locked I agree with addam this is the first major crime he has done the only other things are minor stupid ones. If i turn him in not only will it affect are Friendship it will affect me as i will feel bad i dont see how you lot can turn on a friend even for some shitty money. i still wouldnt even if it was 20 or 30 thousand.
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Post by AdamBomb on Nov 29, 2007 17:30:55 GMT -5
Calm it down i dont want this locked I agree with addam this is the first major crime he has done the only other things are minor stupid ones. If i turn him in not only will it affect are Friendship it will affect me as i will feel bad i dont see how you lot can turn on a friend even for some ****ty money. i still wouldnt even if it was 20 or 30 thousand. Look man, I'm all for 'stealing to survive.' My father did that when he was growing up and his dad passed away - he was the oldest of four kids and his mother didn't make a lot of money, so he did what he and his family needed to, to get by. Stealing and committing crimes because you're a stupid kid is just flat out dumb. I'm not saying turn him in for money, I'm saying turn him in because he WRONGED SOMEONE. And you sitting on your hands and letting him get away with it is WRONG too. Remember, two wrongs don't make a right. - And from what I can see, with you telling him you're done with him, isn't you helping him out, it's you trying to keep it outta sigh outta mind so you don't have it on your conscience. Your friend stole something(s) from people who probably got them the honest way, and it's the holiday season to boot. ing pathetic, and shame on you for just 'letting it go.' People work to have what they do have, people like this guy need to be locked up in a 4x6 cell and think about the petty **** they've done. You said that him being locked up might not get him the help he needs, well riddle me this Batman; will him being on the street with chances like this being open to him again help him out anymore? No, it won't. Going to jail and learning a ing lesson will do him more good, than the idea of him breaking in to a house, or car, and someone being around to catch him, getting lost in that moment, and possibly ending his life... or vice versa. You need to do a lot of thinking brother, because right now, you're not helping him at all.
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Post by mrlayzie2007 on Nov 29, 2007 17:33:46 GMT -5
How the would turning him in help?
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Post by AdamBomb on Nov 29, 2007 17:36:14 GMT -5
How the would turning him in help? Did you just like, decide to not read what I just wrote, at all?
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Post by Markw on Nov 29, 2007 17:39:20 GMT -5
How the would turning him in help? Because it will teach him a ing lesson, he did the crime now he should put up with the consequences and you letting him get away with it is complete BS
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Post by mrlayzie2007 on Nov 30, 2007 5:04:48 GMT -5
Shut the up about turning him in i aint ing doing it. This is ed up. He came to my house so i dont think he cares about getting caught now as tis a bit risky. anyways he says he is sorry for making me say that and alot of other **** and finally he says he probaly will turn himself in but i dont ing know he is a ed up mess at the moment and i ing hate to see him like that
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Post by AdamBomb on Nov 30, 2007 12:33:25 GMT -5
You came here asking "what can I do?" And the general consensus on this was, the best thing you could do for him would be to turn him in. Reading back over the posts, the only one you liked and responded to in good faith was the one post saying NOT to turn him in... which leads me to believe you were only going to do what you wanted to hear, and that's not turning him in. So why even post it in the first place?
Your friend broke the law, hopefully he does grow a pair and turn himself in.
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Post by mrlayzie2007 on Nov 30, 2007 12:54:56 GMT -5
Well know i listened to Hulkamaniac who seemed sensible and thought about it the rest of you just instantly said turn him in.
Hulkamaniac thought about it and what he said about turning him in will be bad got me thinking and i agreed with him.
It was helping seeing most of you would turn your friends in which i dont know how you would but that helped more what Hulkamaniac said.
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Post by sycho1warrior on Nov 30, 2007 13:13:58 GMT -5
tell him to meet you somewhere then call the police about it straight away then go with him so he dosent think you Told them, Then when the cops turn up make sure your out in the open then the cops will get him. which is when you say "man whats all this" then the cops will have him and you'll not have a friend.
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Post by AdamBomb on Nov 30, 2007 13:22:53 GMT -5
Okay, fair enough. Sooo ummm, what was it he stole?
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Post by mrlayzie2007 on Nov 30, 2007 15:26:57 GMT -5
Jewelry from a store in town and money from somones wallet when the person realised he ran after but failed.
They got proof somhow of the wallet thing.
It seems little but its not.
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Post by bobski. on Nov 30, 2007 16:53:51 GMT -5
RKO Him
(yeah, somebody had to)
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Post by mrlayzie2007 on Nov 30, 2007 17:27:17 GMT -5
Was waiting for somthing on those lines lol.
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Post by compton on Nov 30, 2007 21:42:36 GMT -5
I know i should turn him in but i dont think it will help as Hulkamaniac said he needs to grow up and accept the responsibility instead of me turning him in and him coming out and doing it again. That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard. How is he supposed to learn his lesson if his crimes go unpunished?
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Post by mrlayzie2007 on Dec 1, 2007 6:32:16 GMT -5
No he aint the smartest apple you could say i know he will get caught and hopefully he will get longer for running so he may learn from that.
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Post by nibz on Dec 1, 2007 7:59:10 GMT -5
stealing is awful. My grandparents were burgaled 10 months back. You have got to turn him in, friend or no friend.
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