Leg issues

[redrooster]

Pinless leg stiffness is especially bad. The “bounce back” leg at the hip has pretty much happened on every single new elite figure I’ve bought recently. The drop down hips really worry me at this point. My Outsiders Scott hall, Amazon Undertaker, legends Yoko, legends Warrior, coliseum collection Rick rude all have drop down hip issues. Hall’s being the worst. I feel like his leg could snap at any moment if that leg is pulled downward.

[mjhawkins]

Oct 25, 2024 7:59:45 GMT -5 redrooster said:

Pinless leg stiffness is especially bad. The “bounce back” leg at the hip has pretty much happened on every single new elite figure I’ve bought recently. The drop down hips really worry me at this point. My Outsiders Scott hall, Amazon Undertaker, legends Yoko, legends Warrior, coliseum collection Rick rude all have drop down hip issues. Hall’s being the worst. I feel like his leg could snap at any moment if that leg is pulled downward.

This right here happens with almost every single ultimate I’ve bought. Who thought drop down hips was a good idea in the first place. Their absolutely horrible. I’ve also had several arms break at the shoulder joint.

[Grenouille]

I’ve encountered extremely stiff legs especially when it came to the figures in the Smackdown 4 pack. Like others I’m not a big fan of drop down hips. The Undertaker from the Gooker set was the first time I’ve ever had a Mattel figure break on me because of how fragile those leg joints are.

Not leg related, but another QC issue I ran into was with my Nitro ring. Half of the pieces were missing the teeth used to help keep the canvas down.

[ImJoeGrizzlyBitch]

#1 issue with majority of all new figures is loose heads.

[Chip]

some people man...lol. Steve posts a thread specifically asking for leg issues and yet people are like "yeah but all these 15 other things too!"....can we just for once focus on the topic at hand and be constructive/informative instead of using this as an opportunity to complain about other things?


ON TOPIC

I've noticed quite a few recent figures having tighter hip joints to where the legs just don't move in a natural way.
Most recently, my MNW DDP has a "bow" leg where his right one just stays at this weird angle
This is how it looks coming right from the package



I haven't experienced any "freezing" like others have said, but there's definitely some kind of weird warping issue that seems to be on a lot of newer figures and I get a LOT of warped foot parts that make it hard for the figures to stand up.

[ImJoeGrizzlyBitch]

Oct 25, 2024 11:20:18 GMT -5 Chip said:

some people man...lol. Steve posts a thread specifically asking for leg issues and yet people are like "yeah but all these 15 other things too!"....can we just for once focus on the topic at hand and be constructive/informative instead of using this as an opportunity to complain about other things?


ON TOPIC

I've noticed quite a few recent figures having tighter hip joints to where the legs just don't move in a natural way.
Most recently, my MNW DDP has a "bow" leg where his right one just stays at this weird angle
This is how it looks coming right from the package



I haven't experienced any "freezing" like others have said, but there's definitely some kind of weird warping issue that seems to be on a lot of newer figures and I get a LOT of warped foot parts that make it hard for the figures to stand up.

Well, obviously there’s more issues than just legs. And if somebody who works for Mattel is asking collectors what’s wrong with legs, then we as collectors need to point out the fact that’s there’s more issues than just legs.

[eatushsa2]

Oct 24, 2024 18:01:31 GMT -5 Action Figure Attack said:

Hey everyone.

I want to do all I can to resolve the leg issues you’re having.

Please drop your specific comments below on what you’re experiencing so I can pass on the feedback to QE.

Thanks!

*edit*

Please keep this focused on actual leg issues so the QE team can have some focused feedback.

And if someone else already roughly covered what you’ve experienced, please post your experience anyway. The more legitimate constructive comments, the better so they see the potential scope of the issue.

Feel free to start new threads on any other specific issues you want to discuss and I can send those links on once enough feedback accumulates.

Thank you for creating this thread. My biggest issue is with Ultimate Edition legs, it seems near impossible to articulated the legs, my KO broke immediately.

I've also noticed that all my recent elites with the pinless knees are extremely difficult to articulate, also it seems like when ever I raise the legs the ball joint at the hip gets stressed, bent or in some cases broken.

Again thank you for taking the time to address this issue.

[Wes]

Oct 25, 2024 11:44:30 GMT -5 ImJoeGrizzlyBitch said:

Oct 25, 2024 11:20:18 GMT -5 Chip said:

some people man...lol. Steve posts a thread specifically asking for leg issues and yet people are like "yeah but all these 15 other things too!"....can we just for once focus on the topic at hand and be constructive/informative instead of using this as an opportunity to complain about other things?


ON TOPIC

I've noticed quite a few recent figures having tighter hip joints to where the legs just don't move in a natural way.
Most recently, my MNW DDP has a "bow" leg where his right one just stays at this weird angle
This is how it looks coming right from the package



I haven't experienced any "freezing" like others have said, but there's definitely some kind of weird warping issue that seems to be on a lot of newer figures and I get a LOT of warped foot parts that make it hard for the figures to stand up.

Well, obviously there’s more issues than just legs. And if somebody who works for Mattel is asking collectors what’s wrong with legs, then we as collectors need to point out the fact that’s there’s more issues than just legs.

👏👏

[tommygee15]

Oct 24, 2024 18:01:31 GMT -5 Action Figure Attack said:

Hey everyone.

I want to do all I can to resolve the leg issues you’re having.

Please drop your specific comments below on what you’re experiencing so I can pass on the feedback to QE.

Thanks!

*edit*

Please keep this focused on actual leg issues so the QE team can have some focused feedback.

And if someone else already roughly covered what you’ve experienced, please post your experience anyway. The more legitimate constructive comments, the better so they see the potential scope of the issue.

Feel free to start new threads on any other specific issues you want to discuss and I can send those links on once enough feedback accumulates.

In regards to the ball joint hips, there now seems to be an extra piece of plastic molded onto the ball joint which wasn't there before in which gets trapped in the hip causing them to create a ratchet type movement and stiffen up

[eatushsa2]

Oct 25, 2024 13:57:57 GMT -5 tommygee15 said:

Oct 24, 2024 18:01:31 GMT -5 Action Figure Attack said:

Hey everyone.

I want to do all I can to resolve the leg issues you’re having.

Please drop your specific comments below on what you’re experiencing so I can pass on the feedback to QE.

Thanks!

*edit*

Please keep this focused on actual leg issues so the QE team can have some focused feedback.

And if someone else already roughly covered what you’ve experienced, please post your experience anyway. The more legitimate constructive comments, the better so they see the potential scope of the issue.

Feel free to start new threads on any other specific issues you want to discuss and I can send those links on once enough feedback accumulates.

In regards to the ball joint hips, there now seems to be an extra piece of plastic molded onto the ball joint which wasn't there before in which gets trapped in the hip causing them to create a ratchet type movement and stiffen up

I have noticed this in some of my recent elites, Chad Gable and Bronson Reed specifically.

[kgchampion]

The crotch joints seem pretty stiff on a lot of them. My Rosie and Jamal can’t move their legs up. I soaked both figures in boiling water and was able to push the legs up into a sitting position and kept them there until they cooled. Then I put the legs back in the standing position and they were stuck again. I think the ball and socket joints that Elite 19 HBK had were perfect.

Knees on a lot of recent elite figures are incredibly tight. Brock Lesnar’s are practically immovable. Butch and the new Austin Theory and Survivor Series Kevin Owens have stiff knees.

All the basics seem to have really stiff knees.

[figuremagz]

Let’s start with the pinless knees if that’s what we are calling them that, they since moving away from the pinned knees are incredibly stiff some worse than others depending on leg mould, where they need to be heated before can move some I’ve even shaved the plastic down to be able to move them, then we have the hip joints where i appreciate we seem to have left behind the pinecone joint which in its self was not good, we now have a worse issue where the joint pegs are making the legs not be moveable on some, other you try to move forward and it pings the leg back to place, where you have other issues moving the legs sideways where they get stuff and are unable to go back down, I’m not sure if this is a new crotch piece but it’s also causing many loose torsos

[Straightedge413]

The recent issue's I have encountered with legs involved the recent Austin Theory, the left leg didn't move it all. If you tried moving the leg it felt like it was gonna snap right at the joint. I've also had an issue with the Elite Solo & Legends Jamal & Rosey where the legs right at the hip joints are very stiff. If you try to move them it feels like if you go too far they might break and when you let go of the legs they just snap right back, so there's no movability with them at all

[Old Zeke]

Elites - Legs getting stuck or not moving at all. Feel very brittle as if they will break under any movement.

Ultimates - Drop down hips. PLEASE get rid of them. I'm scared to pose them at all as they just feel like they are going to break.

[oldschoolwrestling]

Both 3 Minute Warning figures (Rosey & Jamal) have severe issues to stand on their own without help by leaning them onto something in the back.

Their legs are fine i think, but their feet are causing the issues, as they have some sort of production error or something, don't know.

A buddy on mine on the other side of the world has the exact same issues with the exact same figs (3MW), so it's not just me, and i'm sure you've heard about all that before.

Thanks man!

[cuppacoffeeyeaaah]

Oct 25, 2024 11:20:18 GMT -5 Chip said:

some people man...lol. Steve posts a thread specifically asking for leg issues and yet people are like "yeah but all these 15 other things too!"....can we just for once focus on the topic at hand and be constructive/informative instead of using this as an opportunity to complain about other things?


ON TOPIC

I've noticed quite a few recent figures having tighter hip joints to where the legs just don't move in a natural way.
Most recently, my MNW DDP has a "bow" leg where his right one just stays at this weird angle
This is how it looks coming right from the package



I haven't experienced any "freezing" like others have said, but there's definitely some kind of weird warping issue that seems to be on a lot of newer figures and I get a LOT of warped foot parts that make it hard for the figures to stand up.

When I’m forking out £45 for a figure that’s got paint scuffs and marks over it then yeah I’m gonna ask a question. lol.

[shanieomaniac]

On most of the basics I have found, the legs don't bend easily at the knees at all. I have to work them really hard to get loose and some of them I can't even do that with. This has happened with some Elites as well, but it's pretty universal with the Main Event figures. It seems to be far more noticeable on figures with pinless knee joints, but that's just a general observation more than a confirmed pattern.

The biggest problem I've had with Elites is the hip joints. It runs from Main Event to Ultimates on that one but when I try to bend or turn the figures at the hip joints, it feels very much like the hip joint isn't swiveling, as in the joint isn't working properly, but rather the peg itself is twisting. There is simply no turn to the things outside of risking ripping the leg off. I can't even name how many figures this has happened with but I first started noticing it around Elite 104 or so.

Thank you so much for giving us the chance to give feedback like this. It warms my heart to know that you are acknowledging that there are QC issues that need worked on and are listening and reaching out to the community for feedback. Thank you so much, and I hope that you guys can find a working solution that allows us to continue having these awesome figures for many years to come.

ETA: Something I forgot.

I first noticed with Elite 102 Sami Zayn that sometimes there are figures where one leg is definitely longer than the other. I buy multiples of most Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens figures and on the figures I have bought that have the uneven leg issue, all of the figures that I bought of that person have it to the point that I have to position one leg out to the side to get them to stand up straight.

Also, and I feel like this may just be a mold problem, several recent figures have feel that are warped. This has happened before just the recent figures, though. But sometimes I will get a figure or two that one of the feet is mis-molded to curve downward, meaning it can't stand flat. Most of the time when I get these, I have to put the other foot on a ringside stand, and jut the mismolded leg out to the side a bit.

Should be noted that 'Jut" is not the word I should be using there, there is a far better word to describe what I do, but it's considered a swear word by the forum, so fill it in with your imagination.

[Back to the Codyverse]

Hip joints seem much tighter and weaker

Leg joints are overly stiff and seem to stress the plastic before the joint actually starts to move

Hip joint quality/placement? I have a couple of Vietnam produced figures where one leg seems longer than the other but I personally think it's more to do with the Hip joints. Just my opinion on that one

[®©D - Online™]

For elites it's the fact you added molded grooves to the ball joints which makes them more like the old ratchet joints. The legs now don't move smoothly. If you transitioned back to smooth balljoints alot of the issues would be fixed. Currently we have to boil the legs to loosen them up or as others have mentioned, sand down the grooves. Also pinless less joints on the majority of jeans molds etc are terrible and don't bend.

[coldblooded]

On topic sorta, has anyone tried silicone shock oil on the joints? Did some research and apparently this is good to use on tight joints for figures. I'm not familiar with it, wondering if anyone has had any experience using on these particular joints.