thep1
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Post by thep1 on Jul 27, 2024 22:44:08 GMT -5
I get that and it started off that way, but then the thread went off the rails to drop images of AEW figs on the WWE side. Well, I did it, but thought hard about posting the links. The other option was just to tell people to go look at the AEW board, but I figured that a Surfer Sting was asked for so much that it would be an exception to post those links here. They are Ringside links, so I assume that is OK. I just don't want to see anyone get marked or flagged or whatever it is. |
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originaloutsider
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Post by originaloutsider on Jul 27, 2024 22:58:04 GMT -5
blade runner sting would've hit with Mattel.
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Post by MKSavage on Jul 27, 2024 23:56:41 GMT -5
blade runner sting would've hit with Mattel. Him and Warrior in the Mattel creations tag team two-packs would have been great. |
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Post by MKSavage on Jul 27, 2024 23:59:25 GMT -5
Ringside has it up on their Instagram. http://instagram.com/p/C98HLk3yxJz There is an also a chase of that Sting as Bladerunner Sting. And a box set coming out in their online Vault. Running through Ringsides Instagram shows these two figures, but I saw the box set in the thread on the AEW section of the forums here. http://instagram.com/p/C98H0hTSSav Sweet, very cool … the Bladerunner version is perfect, except that his tongue should be black … but a Surfer version with no scorpion on his tights? … I don’t remember them ever just saying Sting on both legs, what period is that from? Yeah, that is odd. But in his early days, when he just started as Sting after the Blade Runner days, he had plain looking tights. I don't remember "Sting" written on the tights, but he did have plain tights without the lettering and scorpion design. Someone posted that the look is similar to one he wore in the UWF. Same color tights and books, and the face paint is very close/similar. |
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crush
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Post by crush on Jul 28, 2024 0:59:25 GMT -5
I still don't understand how WWE have any rights on attires that were used on WCW or any other promotion WWE owns. If that "superstar" created that attire without any involvement of that "promotion" that WWE owns it should be fair game. Sting owns his IP so I'm sure he can do whatever he likes when it comes to the attires he wore throughout his career. I think Jazwares is afraid of getting sued, so have taken the easy option of not getting involved in attires worn on WCW TV. So yes and no. In a case like this, WWE’s claim wouldn’t be over owning the attire or gimmick, they don’t. Sting could walk out Wednesday night for a promo dressed however he wanted and Jazwaaresncoukd make an old-man Sting figure Butif Jazwares released a Sting in attire and a look that he ONLY wore on programming WWE now owns, WWE could claim that Jazwares/AEW are infringing on WWE IP in the sense that they’re smelling something that only ever appeared on WWE IP. Would WWE win? It’s tough to say, but I would guess probably not. But you can bet they would drag it out to be long and expensive. |
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Post by D.B.K. on Jul 28, 2024 1:28:12 GMT -5
Ringside has it up on their Instagram. http://instagram.com/p/C98HLk3yxJz There is an also a chase of that Sting as Bladerunner Sting. And a box set coming out in their online Vault. Running through Ringsides Instagram shows these two figures, but I saw the box set in the thread on the AEW section of the forums here. http://instagram.com/p/C98H0hTSSav PURE FIRE |
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Jul 28, 2024 7:04:51 GMT -5
I just saw the new Sting three pack. From what I remember the third attire is a WCW one from some ‘99 promo shoots? I know the attire, but honestly don’t remember that specific jacket. Anyone know when Sting wore this?
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Post by Ministry of Darkness on Jul 28, 2024 7:14:17 GMT -5
I still don't understand how WWE have any rights on attires that were used on WCW or any other promotion WWE owns. If that "superstar" created that attire without any involvement of that "promotion" that WWE owns it should be fair game. Sting owns his IP so I'm sure he can do whatever he likes when it comes to the attires he wore throughout his career. I think Jazwares is afraid of getting sued, so have taken the easy option of not getting involved in attires worn on WCW TV. So you’re saying Mattel could and should do all of CM Punk’s AEW looks that Jazwares didn’t do? Even tho WWE did not produce any of the content those looks are from Mattel could legally do make a figure from any AEW broadcast without any repercussions? It's CM Punks IP but the shirts are created with AEW input which will be tough to do. We have seen smaller toy companies using WCW and WWFE looks in their toyline and nothing seems to happen. |
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Post by Ministry of Darkness on Jul 28, 2024 7:19:23 GMT -5
I still don't understand how WWE have any rights on attires that were used on WCW or any other promotion WWE owns. If that "superstar" created that attire without any involvement of that "promotion" that WWE owns it should be fair game. Sting owns his IP so I'm sure he can do whatever he likes when it comes to the attires he wore throughout his career. I think Jazwares is afraid of getting sued, so have taken the easy option of not getting involved in attires worn on WCW TV. So yes and no. In a case like this, WWE’s claim wouldn’t be over owning the attire or gimmick, they don’t. Sting could walk out Wednesday night for a promo dressed however he wanted and Jazwaaresncoukd make an old-man Sting figure Butif Jazwares released a Sting in attire and a look that he ONLY wore on programming WWE now owns, WWE could claim that Jazwares/AEW are infringing on WWE IP in the sense that they’re smelling something that only ever appeared on WWE IP. Would WWE win? It’s tough to say, but I would guess probably not. But you can bet they would drag it out to be long and expensive. True. It's more that Jazwares doesn't want to take the risk. I reckon it would be fair game for Jazwares to use any attire that Sting wore in WCW. The only problem I could see is the shirts that WCW created for him, but again Storm Collectibles did make Hollywood Hogan with the exact shirt that the 3-pack starcade Hogan had without the NWO logos. |
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Post by Flair Forever on Jul 28, 2024 8:05:08 GMT -5
I'm not going to completely rule out a Ric Flair return to WWE/Mattel just yet....
Billy Gunn currently has AEW figures AND WWE/Mattel figures out or being released soon. And Jake The Snake Roberts has been with AEW for several years but WWE/Mattel continue to release Jake "The Snake" figures, there's a new Superstars Jake "The Snake" that was just revealed at SDCC.
I think Flair also has some Big Rubber Guys figures coming out too so clearly AEW/Jazwares doesn't have him exclusively.
All I'm asking is that everyone Be Fair To Flair.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jul 28, 2024 8:50:51 GMT -5
For those questioning the attire choices, remember most Surfer Sting attires are property of WWE via the WCW & Mid South libraries. So very likely this attire of Sting was worn during his JCP time or during an event like with NJPW. Except they own the JCP library too. The Bladerunner and yellow attires are from UWF, so maybe there is some kind of loophole there. He didn't wrestle for NJPW until 1991. Perhaps the looks are all taken from promo photos that Sting owns the rights to. |
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jul 28, 2024 8:53:28 GMT -5
I just saw the new Sting three pack. From what I remember the third attire is a WCW one from some ‘99 promo shoots? I know the attire, but honestly don’t remember that specific jacket. Anyone know when Sting wore this? Yes, it's from that photoshoot, which was used for a WWE DVD.  Makes me wonder if the shoot was done independently of WCW and Sting owns the rights to the pictures. He also did wrestle a match in this attire. Not sure if it will have the scorpion on the back of the jacket. He also wore the pants with a shirt in the match at Mayhem vs Bret. Although it seems Jazwares has tucked the pants into his boots for some reason, so the look doesn't really work without the jacket to cover that up. |
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nohairnoflair
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Post by nohairnoflair on Jul 28, 2024 9:24:44 GMT -5
Can’t wait to see Jazwares take on Flair honestly
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jul 28, 2024 9:29:22 GMT -5
...and here he is wearing that jacket with his regular singlet:
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Jul 28, 2024 9:31:56 GMT -5
Took Jazwares long enough but they're finally trying to get creative with Sting figures
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Post by stc13 on Jul 28, 2024 9:39:07 GMT -5
So yes and no. In a case like this, WWE’s claim wouldn’t be over owning the attire or gimmick, they don’t. Sting could walk out Wednesday night for a promo dressed however he wanted and Jazwaaresncoukd make an old-man Sting figure Butif Jazwares released a Sting in attire and a look that he ONLY wore on programming WWE now owns, WWE could claim that Jazwares/AEW are infringing on WWE IP in the sense that they’re smelling something that only ever appeared on WWE IP. Would WWE win? It’s tough to say, but I would guess probably not. But you can bet they would drag it out to be long and expensive. True. It's more that Jazwares doesn't want to take the risk. I reckon it would be fair game for Jazwares to use any attire that Sting wore in WCW. The only problem I could see is the shirts that WCW created for him, but again Storm Collectibles did make Hollywood Hogan with the exact shirt that the 3-pack starcade Hogan had without the NWO logos. Just to reinforce this point a bit, there are plenty of examples. PWT has produced multiple surfer era Sting Micro Brawlers under the AEW license. And there are examples in other properties, such as the Acclaim Legends of Wrestling games and the Storm Hogans, and then countless examples recently from the small toy companies that have popped up. But as you said, there's greater risk and attention on a mass market retail figure, and court costs and possibly shipping disruptions make it not worth the risk when you can just take a path of lesser resistence. It's cost/benefit analysis, but that doesn't mean there is some sacred legal ground that WWE stands on. They just have the resources to throw their weight around that other companies don't want to deal with. |
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Post by J-MANN on Jul 28, 2024 9:41:06 GMT -5
Finally.
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Post by oldschoolfool on Jul 28, 2024 14:25:11 GMT -5
Can't wait for the third party Blade Runner Rock heads.
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Post by alienfreak24 on Jul 28, 2024 14:58:38 GMT -5
wow it only took them like 5 years to make a flashback sting Probably scared of getting sued by WWE, who have a habit of making legal threats claiming they own everything, including for stuff they absolutely do not own. Standard monopolizing tactics. Even Sting aside, Jazwares have barely touched 1980s and 1990s Legends in general, I know they did Owen Hart, and a classic Chris Jericho, but that's it isn't it? Hopefully they will explore other possibilities, obviously ones that don't infringe WWE trademarks. Obviously I'm not sure legally how any of this works, but if I’m not mistaken Jazwares should be able to use any attires that he didn’t wear in WCW, Crockett, or WWE. So his looks in NWA, NJPW, or even TNA should be allowed. That was the talk back when Jakks made the TNA Legends figures and they brought out Sting in the Surfer attire. Obviously he didn’t wear that in TNA, but he did in NWA & NJPW. Now maybe WWE owns that time period or something from NWA, but they could still use NJPW looks, like Jakks did with the TNA Legends Hogan AND the TNA Legends Deluxe Sting. That attire Sting wore against Muta on the WCW/NJPW Supershow in Nov. ‘92. So I’m pretty sure Jazwares can do it. Not really sure how they got the ‘99 WCW Photo Shoot attire though haha. So it’s all messed up. And there has to be a possibility of Sting and Flair to sign Merch Contracts with WWE/Mattel while still associated with AEW. I mean we still get Jake the Snake and Billy Gunn WWE figures while both are in AEW. Billy is having figures produced by both companies. |
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Jul 28, 2024 16:17:30 GMT -5
I’d say Jazwares is being overly conservative with luminaries, but knowing how WWE is they’d probably file a lawsuit even if they couldn’t win, just to hassle them. So I get it but it’s annoying that they aren’t doing more.
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