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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jul 1, 2024 21:47:23 GMT -5
What are some good examples of forgotten finishing moves that were eventually scrapped or replaced?
My mind immediately thinks of Shawn Michaels using the slingshot suplex. He was smart to ditch it in favor of just using his superkick which looked a million times better and could be performed on anyone. It might sound like a ridiculous over exaggeration, but I don't think HBK reaches the top if he stuck with that awful move as his finisher. It was that bad.
A more obscure one from that timeframe, when The Smoking Gunns debuted in 1993 they were doing this crazy move where Billy would back body drop their opponent only for Bart to catch him mid-flip and hit a piledriver. It looked pretty damn dangerous so I can see why they eventually went with the Sidewinder which appeared just as devastating, but was undoubtedly safer to perform.
In 2001, Kane started using a fall-out powerbomb for a brief period which somehow followed him for the next several years in every videogame. Also in that era, Jericho began using his version of the Skull Crushing Finale which was called The Breakdown and I remember it looking pretty crappy.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jul 1, 2024 21:51:04 GMT -5
Jerichos BreakDown looked meh mostly, it only looked decent a few times.
I loved Kanes Falling Powerbomb. Crazy move.
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Post by The Brain on Jul 1, 2024 21:59:26 GMT -5
Sarge using the noogie and Trips using the diamond cutter come to mind
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 1, 2024 22:11:24 GMT -5
Does HBK's weird back suplex he used when he first turned heel count??
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Post by The Brain on Jul 1, 2024 22:17:54 GMT -5
Does HBK's weird back suplex he used when he first turned heel count?? aka the ''teardrop suplex''. The announcers never called it by that name though He also used the piledriver briefly in late 93
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jul 1, 2024 22:23:16 GMT -5
Orton using the Overdrive sucked.
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Post by hbkjason on Jul 2, 2024 1:48:40 GMT -5
Jerichos BreakDown looked meh mostly, it only looked decent a few times. I loved Kanes Falling Powerbomb. Crazy move. I loved during the Brothers of Destruction run when it was like Undertaker was trying to teach Kane how to do the Last Ride and he would do stuff like throw his opponent over his head and just screw it up.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jul 2, 2024 5:44:00 GMT -5
Edge also abandoned the Downward Spiral after a few years. He messed around with a few different finishers before finally just settling with the spear.
That move just never looked devastating enough to be a finisher although I will admit that Kanyon's version was better.
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Post by MKSavage on Jul 2, 2024 8:04:14 GMT -5
Yeah, Sarge's noogie comes to mind. I didn't even remember him using that, only found out years later. I guess he couldn't use the cobra clutch because DiBiase was using it at the time as the Million $ Dream. Smart move ditching the noogie and going to the camel clutch. Did he go back to using the cobra clutch in 1992 as a babyface?
HBK using the side suplex in 1992 and the piledriver in 1993 also come to mind. I remember the side suplex mostly because of the Royal Rumble SNES game.
Warlord using the Davey Boy-style power slam in 1990 before switching to the full nelson.
Chico Santana changing up his finisher (I don't remember the name, I think they called it pasa del monte, or something like that) when he became El Matador. Never understood why, his flying forearm looked amazing.
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Post by The Brain on Jul 2, 2024 9:18:25 GMT -5
Yeah, Sarge's noogie comes to mind. I didn't even remember him using that, only found out years later. I guess he couldn't use the cobra clutch because DiBiase was using it at the time as the Million $ Dream. Smart move ditching the noogie and going to the camel clutch. Did he go back to using the cobra clutch in 1992 as a babyface? HBK using the side suplex in 1992 and the piledriver in 1993 also come to mind. I remember the side suplex mostly because of the Royal Rumble SNES game. Warlord using the Davey Boy-style power slam in 1990 before switching to the full nelson. Chico Santana changing up his finisher (I don't remember the name, I think they called it pasa del monte, or something like that) when he became El Matador. Never understood why, his flying forearm looked amazing. What you say that was, extra hot paste picante?
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Post by MKSavage on Jul 2, 2024 11:44:57 GMT -5
Yeah, Sarge's noogie comes to mind. I didn't even remember him using that, only found out years later. I guess he couldn't use the cobra clutch because DiBiase was using it at the time as the Million $ Dream. Smart move ditching the noogie and going to the camel clutch. Did he go back to using the cobra clutch in 1992 as a babyface? HBK using the side suplex in 1992 and the piledriver in 1993 also come to mind. I remember the side suplex mostly because of the Royal Rumble SNES game. Warlord using the Davey Boy-style power slam in 1990 before switching to the full nelson. Chico Santana changing up his finisher (I don't remember the name, I think they called it pasa del monte, or something like that) when he became El Matador. Never understood why, his flying forearm looked amazing. What you say that was, extra hot paste picante? ![](https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExN3RucXFuZWxucGw5Mm8zajhxMTczOXYzd204d2dyMWl3ZHZwaHB3diZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/XMBJ0l20sNWEM/giphy.gif)
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jul 2, 2024 15:31:39 GMT -5
Jerichos BreakDown looked meh mostly, it only looked decent a few times. I loved Kanes Falling Powerbomb. Crazy move. I loved during the Brothers of Destruction run when it was like Undertaker was trying to teach Kane how to do the Last Ride and he would do stuff like throw his opponent over his head and just screw it up. Yeah that was funny lol. It was cool how Taker had the Last Ride & Kane had the Falling Powerbomb.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 2, 2024 21:25:33 GMT -5
Edge briefly used the “Edge-A-Cution” submission in 2005. Always looked awkward to me.
I much preferred Brock’s brief “Brock Lock” submission he was using towards the end of 2003.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jul 2, 2024 21:26:34 GMT -5
Edge also abandoned the Downward Spiral after a few years. He messed around with a few different finishers before finally just settling with the spear. That move just never looked devastating enough to be a finisher although I will admit that Kanyon's version was better. I liked Edges Downward Spiral tbh
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Post by JokerFC on Jul 7, 2024 15:42:41 GMT -5
Jerichos BreakDown looked meh mostly, it only looked decent a few times. I loved Kanes Falling Powerbomb. Crazy move. The Breakdown didn't take at all and it only looked good on a chair,belt etc. You needed someone to sell the hell out of it as well.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jul 7, 2024 22:47:14 GMT -5
Jerichos BreakDown looked meh mostly, it only looked decent a few times. I loved Kanes Falling Powerbomb. Crazy move. The Breakdown didn't take at all and it only looked good on a chair,belt etc. You needed someone to sell the hell out of it as well. Yeah lol only on belts,chairs,tables etc. It was a good signature move but never a finisher for Jericho.
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Post by JokerFC on Jul 7, 2024 23:06:30 GMT -5
The Breakdown didn't take at all and it only looked good on a chair,belt etc. You needed someone to sell the hell out of it as well. Yeah lol only on belts,chairs,tables etc. It was a good signature move but never a finisher for Jericho. yup a great "sequence move" but nothing more IMHO
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jul 12, 2024 8:39:07 GMT -5
I remember Test having many finishers...Big boot, Pumphandle Slam, Test Drive, TKO, Diving Elbow, Full Nelson Slam, Gutwrench Powerbomb.
I believe he used most of em as finishers at one point.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Jul 13, 2024 10:57:34 GMT -5
I loved the “One & Only” lifting sleeper slam Billy did as The One
Justin Credibles (that’s incredible) was a swinging DDT in WWF, rather than a spinning tombstone like it was in ECW
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jul 13, 2024 16:59:48 GMT -5
I loved the “One & Only” lifting sleeper slam Billy did as The One Justin Credibles (that’s incredible) was a swinging DDT in WWF, rather than a spinning tombstone like it was in ECW Good call! The Fame-Asser was such a good move too because it could be done to anyone regardless of their size so that was kind of a head scratcher. I feel like 2001 was the unofficial year of failed new finishers. Remember when Big Show started using the Final Cut AND the Alleyoop? 😂
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