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Post by boss on Jun 18, 2024 16:53:09 GMT -5
Is it time for WWE to just cut losses and release Karrion Kross and Scarlett?
I like them both but creative just can't seem to find anything to get them over or provide anything interesting.
I was a huge fan of Kross when he first came to NXT but I feel like since then it's just been all uphill/ underwhelming at best.
Thoughts?
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Jun 18, 2024 18:03:22 GMT -5
I am a Kross apologist but I think it's clear he just cannot connect with fans. The deafening silence when he comes out at any time is somewhat embarrassing.
I liked him in NXT because he was a combo breaker for the roster and stood out. On the main roster he isn't just tossing around guys half his size or smaller anymore and his shtick kind of doesn't fit. I also wouldn't be surprised if he has a lot of input on what he's doing and just doesn't have great taste.
I know he's been back in NXT a bit but I'd say send him back to NXT for a good lengthy stay to try to rehab him or yeah, cut him loose.
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Post by Zeke on Jun 18, 2024 18:18:54 GMT -5
He is the least interesting person in his stable.
I think he is the dullest wrestler I have ever seen on the WWE roster in a long time.
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Post by switchbladeera on Jun 18, 2024 20:32:38 GMT -5
Yes, he's terrible.
I bought in back with the Eddie Edwards feud in impact. It's become clear since then I have not given Eddie nearly enough credit for making Kross interesting cuz Holy crap is he a walking dial tone ever since. Flashy entrance followed by a literal snoozefest.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Jun 18, 2024 20:37:58 GMT -5
Yes, he's terrible. I bought in back with the Eddie Edwards feud in impact. It's become clear since then I have not given Eddie nearly enough credit for making Kross interesting cuz Holy crap is he a walking dial tone ever since. Flashy entrance followed by a literal snoozefest. I was so excited when Kross signed because of that feud. Those matches were so freaking good. Now we know
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Post by CM Tusk on Jun 18, 2024 22:37:58 GMT -5
I don’t wish for anyone to lose their jobs but that man is like someone drew tattoos on paint drying.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Jun 19, 2024 3:09:24 GMT -5
I'm in the minority that likes Kross. Give him his NXT persona back, a proper finisher and make him a threat. You can't present someone as a dominant heel while putting him in meaningless feuds and having him lose every match. Even after being repackaged with AOP, he still hasn't gotten a win. His match at Wrestlemania had the chance to be something special for all involved yet it was given 8 minutes so I'm not going to pretend that hes the reason that hes the reason why he isn't any bigger.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Jun 19, 2024 6:41:01 GMT -5
The man has never been given a proper chance - idc what anyone says. And they've not done - or even tried to do a single ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ing thing with Scarlett. That feud with Eddie Edwards was only interesting because of the vignettes... and that was all Kross. He's one of the best talkers in the company... Give the man a live mic, and put him in the ring with, idk, Punk - and see what happens.
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Post by McBlake on Jun 19, 2024 6:52:23 GMT -5
I like Kross... but he needs to shave his head again. He looked so intimidating during his NXT title run. He's presented as some random try hard they've pulled out of Download festival now.
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Post by Rocky Balboa on Jun 19, 2024 7:00:46 GMT -5
He will never amount to anything in the WWE, I can say that much. Felt like he was just hired because they wanted Scarlett.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2024 9:01:13 GMT -5
It seemed like HHH was high on him during his NXT run but his Main Roster run has been wet fart after wet fart.
I don't want anyone to lose their job, but if WWE ain't gonna use you, just go elsewhere that will.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Jun 19, 2024 14:46:04 GMT -5
The man has never been given a proper chance - idc what anyone says. And they've not done - or even tried to do a single ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ing thing with Scarlett. That feud with Eddie Edwards was only interesting because of the vignettes... and that was all Kross. He's one of the best talkers in the company... Give the man a live mic, and put him in the ring with, idk, Punk - and see what happens. Never given a proper chance? He has feuded with Drew McIntyre, Lashley, Rey Mysterio, Finn Balor just to name a few. Give me another example of a guy that had that many chances to feud with main event talent and didn’t walk away from it the least bit over with the fans?
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Post by tigerlillysingh on Jun 19, 2024 15:37:31 GMT -5
I mean in the year 2024 how much can you really shine working Lashley & New Day.
That’s a graveyard shift.
The group are in a tough spot, feels like they’re waiting for the pin to be pulled on Judgement Day to create the vacuum for a group which isn’t there right now, it’s crowded on Raw.
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Post by Lone Wölf on Jun 19, 2024 16:40:28 GMT -5
I typically like anything with Kross minus any of his matches
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jun 19, 2024 16:56:48 GMT -5
People love to blame Kross abut seem to forget how badly he's been booked.
When he returned he was presented as Roman's next challenger but a few weeks later he gets fed to Mcintyre and after that he rarely appeared.
He would show up now and again, have a small feud where he would lose and this was a recurrence until The Final Testament.
How is someone meant to get over or connect with the fans in they're trapped in a cycle of piss poor booking?
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Post by J-MANN on Jun 19, 2024 16:57:49 GMT -5
I typically like anything with Kross minus any of his matches He’s a great promo with a baddie wife. That’s about it.
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Post by Lone Wölf on Jun 19, 2024 17:08:16 GMT -5
I typically like anything with Kross minus any of his matches He’s a great promo with a baddie wife. That’s about it. When I see him in videos and interviews he seems cool and has a personality. On TV he just looks like some dude named Derek
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Post by cableV on Jun 19, 2024 17:32:55 GMT -5
Scarlett is one that hasn't been given a chance on the main roster and is being underutilized, IMO. Her stuff in Impact was good and she showed she can be entertaining and do just about anything. Now she is in a group with 3 duds and Paul Ellering, who I'm sorry, ads nothing to the act.
Kross is fine until the bell rings and then there is a disconnect between the character and the in ring work. Until they find a way to close that gap, he will never be a top guy. It's not that he is a horrible wrestler, there is just something missing. I hope they can find it.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Jun 20, 2024 1:01:16 GMT -5
I'm in the minority that likes Kross. Give him his NXT persona back, a proper finisher and make him a threat. You can't present someone as a dominant heel while putting him in meaningless feuds and having him lose every match. Even after being repackaged with AOP, he still hasn't gotten a win. His match at Wrestlemania had the chance to be something special for all involved yet it was given 8 minutes so I'm not going to pretend that hes the reason that hes the reason why he isn't any bigger. People love to blame Kross abut seem to forget how badly he's been booked. When he returned he was presented as Roman's next challenger but a few weeks later he gets fed to Mcintyre and after that he rarely appeared. He would show up now and again, have a small feud where he would lose and this was a recurrence until The Final Testament. How is someone meant to get over or connect with the fans in they're trapped in a cycle of piss poor booking? Well at least there's some people in here who get it. Let's look at the McIntyre 'feud', shall we? Returned out of nowhere, to attack McIntyre - and possibly be Reigns' new challenger, just before CATC...then goes to Wales to do what... sit in the ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ing front row and throw a bottle of water - that's it. In fact, let's go right back to his main roster debut, the first time around... jobbed out to Jeff Hardy. And how many matches has he actually won? He loses pretty much every match/feud he's in - and then it's just rinse and repeat. People blame Kross for not getting over, but I'm not having it. The man has basically been sabotaged at every turn. If you present someone as a jobber, then the fans will treat them as a jobber. Maybe a face turn will light the spark... He's got the mic skills, personality and presence to pull it off - and the crowd would definitely get behind Scarlett, if she was ever allowed to do anything.
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Post by CM Tusk on Jun 20, 2024 2:32:03 GMT -5
He was boring as piss when he was booked as NXTs big star too. Having him beat Keith Lee and having him end Finn’s reign are two of the low point towards the end of the black and gold era. The guy doesn’t have IT. Booking has nothing to do with it.
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