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Post by jt on Mar 25, 2024 22:56:24 GMT -5
Does the feedback and interest lead to making it a new line or will the sales become a deciding factor as to creating more? Or a combination of both? I don’t think a separate line is needed. If we have any of these talents available, they can live in Legends or Elites. But with that said, if this sold like gangbusters, I could certainly push for some different multipacks. Is there anything you can say about the status of Adrian Street? I have to assume they have something in place since they put him in the hall, did a mini-documentary on him, and mentioned his death but we haven't seen any merch so I have no idea. |
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jperrone1977
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Post by jperrone1977 on Mar 26, 2024 2:23:26 GMT -5
How about a release of the Chief Jay Strongbow figure that was in stores for like a week.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Mar 26, 2024 6:29:55 GMT -5
How about a release of the Chief Jay Strongbow figure that was in stores for like a week. There's a reason it was pulled... |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Mar 26, 2024 7:35:54 GMT -5
Just to set expectations, this is just a one off box set for now and not a new line. Any talent that are on your wishlists for this would just appear elsewhere like Legends if/when they become available. Play along Steve. Fantasy book the next wave if one were to come to fruition. What 2 iconic matchups from the territory days would you, the fan and not the Mattel employee, most wanna see? |
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Post by Grenouille on Mar 26, 2024 8:27:18 GMT -5
How about a release of the Chief Jay Strongbow figure that was in stores for like a week. There's a reason it was pulled... And yet WWE still has a piece of Strongbow merchandise on WWE Shop. Was there ever really going to be a stir about a wrestling action figure based on someone most under 45 have never heard of? |
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 26, 2024 8:37:41 GMT -5
Does the feedback and interest lead to making it a new line or will the sales become a deciding factor as to creating more? Or a combination of both? I don’t think a separate line is needed. If we have any of these talents available, they can live in Legends or Elites. But with that said, if this sold like gangbusters, I could certainly push for some different multipacks. Not complaining at all, the set is amazing, just curious. Why were these put in this box set and not put in the legends or main elite line? |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Mar 26, 2024 8:43:00 GMT -5
There's a reason it was pulled... And yet WWE still has a piece of Strongbow merchandise on WWE Shop. Was there ever really going to be a stir about a wrestling action figure based on someone most under 45 have never heard of? Mattel and WWE are two separate companies. Just because WWE chooses to sell merch of the character on their website doesn’t make the appropriation of Native American culture any less of a hot button topic in this day and age. Mattel chose to play it safe and pull the figure to avoid any potential controversy since they are a billion dollar publicly traded company. |
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Post by ztj_wwf on Mar 26, 2024 8:49:59 GMT -5
There's a reason it was pulled... And yet WWE still has a piece of Strongbow merchandise on WWE Shop. Was there ever really going to be a stir about a wrestling action figure based on someone most under 45 have never heard of? As I recall, a single person made a stink about it online and that's why it ended up being pulled. |
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Post by Grenouille on Mar 26, 2024 8:59:50 GMT -5
And yet WWE still has a piece of Strongbow merchandise on WWE Shop. Was there ever really going to be a stir about a wrestling action figure based on someone most under 45 have never heard of? As I recall, a single person made a stink about it online and that's why it ended up being pulled. Sounds about right. |
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nomorexclusives
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Post by nomorexclusives on Mar 26, 2024 9:30:20 GMT -5
Playing devil's advocate, this line seems perfect to work around that issue. They own a LOT of tape libraries or IP rights, including many NWA affiliates. And since the champions would tour the affiliates and battle defend the belts, there's a pretty high chance most major names (at least from the 70s on) appear somewhere on tape. Guys would basically cycle the same gimmick/look across the territories. And there may be more flexibility on what looks they're able to do - the reference for the upcoming Legends Hogan is almost certainly something they don't own tape of, nor do they have the Inoki/Ali match as far as I know. I agree with this my biggest thing is the sheer amount of sublines they’ve created that’s doing nothing but rereleasing figures. Wouldn’t we rather have that energy placed into making at least new figures of the wrestlers? Instead of getting a rereleased elite of warrior or something why not just another attire he wore. That’s the thing bugging me a most. It may not be an entirely new character but at least it’s not something already out there we can get. It’s a small complaint but I think it would help more. Then they give us a warrior we already had and put a pink belt on it instead of the purple one he wore, irks me after two times still couldn’t get it right I agree with you in regards to sublines of same sized lines repackaged with a different colored bandana as the selling point (but a chase in reality). I would not agree if you included the retro or superstars lines as they are primarily geared toward old school collectors looking for nostalgia and some good memories to remember before we pass on. The regular lines include some of those legends but they are the minority. I would also agree with you that there are too many repeats but i get it. They need a few known characters in each wave to keep interest. Its a tough situation because we all see how many times they do this while the most requested wrestlers get ignored, but in the end as i learned myself (surprised face), is that they need permission to make each person/wrestler/manager/character. I was a star wars collector previous to this and just dabbled a bit in wrestling figures picking them up at swapmeets or garage sales if i saw them. Hasbro too has remade darth vader a few hundred times now and it was a big reason why i stopped being a completist and just decided to pick up new characters. But i never had a doubt that every character could be made. With these wwe figures that is not the case. There is a middleman in the way since mattel is not part of the wwe, so they (mattel) have no control over it. It was a big shock but in short those are the cards we are being dealt. My main worry is the wait. At the rate this has gone on it will take a long time till we get closwr to the finish line.... mainly due to all the repeats... Just add to this, what could happen however is that a new company could come around and offer a better price as part as a deal with the wwe. The obvious elephant in the room is hasbro. They need a reboot and could try to take away one of mattels biggest ips. That could either be a bad thing or a blessing in disguise although hasbro would have the same problems mattel has. |
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Mar 26, 2024 10:14:48 GMT -5
And yet WWE still has a piece of Strongbow merchandise on WWE Shop. Was there ever really going to be a stir about a wrestling action figure based on someone most under 45 have never heard of? As I recall, a single person made a stink about it online and that's why it ended up being pulled. same with mania 23 RVD |
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Post by azraelms on Mar 26, 2024 10:27:17 GMT -5
Just add to this, what could happen however is that a new company could come around and offer a better price as part as a deal with the wwe. The obvious elephant in the room is hasbro. They need a reboot and could try to take away one of mattels biggest ips. That could either be a bad thing or a blessing in disguise although hasbro would have the same problems mattel has. That is another can of worms right there, in my opinion. So let's say that Hasbro gets the license at the start of 2026, how many people would start over? Getting every legend from scratch, just the Hasbro version and not the Mattel version. I suspect a good number of people would use the opportunity to completely get out of it, unless they had some sort of amazing Legend debuts. But I am not sure what names out there would tip the scales in that direction. When Mattel took over from Jakks, they had Ricky Steamboat early on in the Legends line which was a big deal, then the Defining Moments Macho Man was another big deal, both early on in the line. I don't know if something like Haku or Hercules debuting for Hasbro would tip the needle at all like Steamboat or Savage. |
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Post by Grenouille on Mar 26, 2024 10:46:31 GMT -5
Just add to this, what could happen however is that a new company could come around and offer a better price as part as a deal with the wwe. The obvious elephant in the room is hasbro. They need a reboot and could try to take away one of mattels biggest ips. That could either be a bad thing or a blessing in disguise although hasbro would have the same problems mattel has. That is another can of worms right there, in my opinion. So let's say that Hasbro gets the license at the start of 2026, how many people would start over? Getting every legend from scratch, just the Hasbro version and not the Mattel version. I suspect a good number of people would use the opportunity to completely get out of it, unless they had some sort of amazing Legend debuts. But I am not sure what names out there would tip the scales in that direction. When Mattel took over from Jakks, they had Ricky Steamboat early on in the Legends line which was a big deal, then the Defining Moments Macho Man was another big deal, both early on in the line. I don't know if something like Haku or Hercules debuting for Hasbro would tip the needle at all like Steamboat or Savage. I've given this some thought. If Mattel loses the license I don't think I'd go out completely like I did in Jakks last year, but I'd scale back majorly. The idea of starting over like I eventually did in 2016 is a non-starter for me. |
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Post by marvelelite on Mar 26, 2024 10:47:35 GMT -5
I'd rather see Mattel keep the license, but at the same time see McFarlane get the license to do their typical 7 inch scale. The lines don't have compete with each other, a McFarlane WWE line belongs with the collectibles aisle like the NECA stuff.
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Post by stc13 on Mar 26, 2024 12:28:05 GMT -5
How did we get back to fantasy booking Hasbro getting the license when WWE/Mattel basically just signed their most recent extension?
There's absolutely no indication Hasbro has been or would be interested in WWE. They have a long term deal with two monster licensed properties with Star Wars and Marvel. Plus a ton of in house IP (Transformers, GI Joe) in the same category as wrestling.
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Post by coldblooded on Mar 26, 2024 12:43:15 GMT -5
How did we get back to fantasy booking Hasbro getting the license when WWE/Mattel basically just signed their most recent extension? There's absolutely no indication Hasbro has been or would be interested in WWE. They have a long term deal with two monster licensed properties with Star Wars and Marvel. Plus a ton of in house IP (Transformers, GI Joe) in the same category as wrestling. Not to mention they ditched the MMPR line that they OWN. |
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Post by ztj_wwf on Mar 26, 2024 13:20:27 GMT -5
As I recall, a single person made a stink about it online and that's why it ended up being pulled. same with mania 23 RVD Ah maybe that’s what I was thinking about…Or perhaps it happened with both. |
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Post by JWLJN on Mar 27, 2024 10:54:43 GMT -5
Just to set expectations, this is just a one off box set for now and not a new line. Any talent that are on your wishlists for this would just appear elsewhere like Legends if/when they become available. Sounds like the “influencers” who are constantly coddled for never damning any product dropped the ball here. They’ve been spouting the word “line” in relation to this set since it was unveiled. |
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Post by azraelms on Mar 27, 2024 11:29:31 GMT -5
Just to set expectations, this is just a one off box set for now and not a new line. Any talent that are on your wishlists for this would just appear elsewhere like Legends if/when they become available. Sounds like the “influencers” who are constantly coddled for never damning any product dropped the ball here. They’ve been spouting the word “line” in relation to this set since it was unveiled. I would love it if this was a big enough seller to change this into a regular line, even if it was one set of 4 a year like this. I am quite happy to get 3 out of 4 of these figures, especially the Harley. |
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Post by shanieomaniac on Mar 27, 2024 23:22:02 GMT -5
Ah maybe that’s what I was thinking about…Or perhaps it happened with both. A single Karen lost her mind about an Al Snow figure in the 90s and it became national news. So big they made it a storyline. Mattel wasn't about to let that happen to them. One person is all it takes to roll the snowball and start an avalanche. |
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