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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Mar 8, 2024 16:41:33 GMT -5
This a nonsensical take. Action figures aren’t “trophies” given for an achievement, they’re a product. Collecting from the start of the line isn’t an “achievement” to be “rewarded” by early figures not being re-released. Also, the part of this that people keep ignoring is that the original figures, especially MOC, aren’t going to depreciate in value and if anything will become more “collectible” but that doesn’t fit the narrative. I actually disagree with that opinion. Collectors that were part of the beginning should be rewarded as they were the ones who kept the lines going. Mattel isn’t a small start up company that needed backers. They were gonna continue to be toy juggernauts. My Magic the Gathering comparison was that they started as a small company Wizards of the Coast, and that got bought by Hasbro eventually. The fact that they still honour the reserved list 30 years later is kind of an anomaly. Jakks would be a better comparison because they were small and needed people to support them, but with a property like WWE you’re gonna make money. |
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Post by LA Knight Yeah! on Mar 8, 2024 16:45:47 GMT -5
I would take a re release of a ABA Undertaker 2001 but with a painted on vest top not like the pull down one the Ringside Exclusive had I thought that was awful.
DM Triple H from his 2002 return would be sick.
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Post by crush on Mar 8, 2024 16:56:00 GMT -5
This a nonsensical take. Action figures aren’t “trophies” given for an achievement, they’re a product. Collecting from the start of the line isn’t an “achievement” to be “rewarded” by early figures not being re-released. Also, the part of this that people keep ignoring is that the original figures, especially MOC, aren’t going to depreciate in value and if anything will become more “collectible” but that doesn’t fit the narrative. Absolutely false. These rereleases directly, and negatively, affect the value of the older/ previous releases. Just look at the Ultimate Edition series 1 Ultimate Warrior. That figure was going for over $100 before the Best of UE release and now you can’t even get rid of that figure for $30. (Side note: that figure did not have any distribution problems and was fair game for everyone!) Will some retain some value? Sure. Like someone else said, the original Harley Race had a BAF piece so that will maintain some value. However, let’s look on eBay in a few months and see what those Dudley’s are selling for. I doubt the originals will be worth anywhere near what they were going for before this announcement. That Warrior is a direct reprint in the same box and packaging. Re: the Dudleys, maybe, but the same would happen to those Dudleys if/when more desirable look came out to begin with since the biggest reason those Dudleys are in demand is because they’re the only Elite Dudleys not because they’re in-demand collectibles in their own right. It seems highly unlikely that the original RSC exclusives for example run into that issue. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Mar 8, 2024 17:28:08 GMT -5
Absolutely false. These rereleases directly, and negatively, affect the value of the older/ previous releases. Just look at the Ultimate Edition series 1 Ultimate Warrior. That figure was going for over $100 before the Best of UE release and now you can’t even get rid of that figure for $30. (Side note: that figure did not have any distribution problems and was fair game for everyone!) Will some retain some value? Sure. Like someone else said, the original Harley Race had a BAF piece so that will maintain some value. However, let’s look on eBay in a few months and see what those Dudley’s are selling for. I doubt the originals will be worth anywhere near what they were going for before this announcement. That Warrior is a direct reprint in the same box and packaging. Re: the Dudleys, maybe, but the same would happen to those Dudleys if/when more desirable look came out to begin with since the biggest reason those Dudleys are in demand is because they’re the only Elite Dudleys not because they’re in-demand collectibles in their own right. It seems highly unlikely that the original RSC exclusives for example run into that issue. I guarantee that if one of these waves has the RSC exclusive SES CM Punk, the originals value will be less than half of what it’s going for now. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Mar 8, 2024 17:34:00 GMT -5
What are you even saying? Rereleases of Mattel WWE action figures devalue the . That’s a fact. You’re making it sound like just because you want the value to stay the same, it will. Maybe your personal attachment to the figure should t change, but the actual market value of the figure will decline. That’s a fact. And you say we’re making a bad investment as if we know the rerelease is coming. These rereleases are relatively new. There is no way five years ago I would have know that the SVS Taker would be released for $30. How would I know that and what evidence at that time would make me think that’s even a possibility?  These were one off figures or a one of series with no expectations of it continuing to happen. Now we have a line devoted to rereleases and upgrades. We are expecting and theorizing what the new wave could be which ultimately makes people hold off on buying the old one. Who’s really going to buy an old CM Punk now knowing that’s it’s a possibility that he could get a rerelease. There’s the patience you were talking about. When I said “no evidence,” there was no ongoing line or promise of consistent, incoming rereleases. We have Greatest Hits, Greatest Hits Legends, Best of UE, and From the Vault. Enough already. You’re also taking my comment out of context. I said “what evidence at that time.” Everything you’re showing me is way before. They weren’t really doing releases when I bought the SVS Taker on the secondary market. |
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Post by rkmo: Everyone Else but Me on Mar 8, 2024 17:38:43 GMT -5
Lucky these aren't the new Mattel Creations crowdfund plan
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Mar 8, 2024 17:44:59 GMT -5
Lucky these aren't the new Mattel Creations crowdfund plan Speaking of crowdfunds, the recent posts in this thread really show me why the Nitro stage didn’t get funded. The wrestling figure market is too niche and people simply aren’t willing to spend the money on this hobby like other hobbies/ collections. |
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Post by jacobl18 on Mar 8, 2024 20:38:23 GMT -5
Lucky these aren't the new Mattel Creations crowdfund plan Just wait until they mass rerelease the Doink UE from the New Generation crowd fund. It’s coming and you know it. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2024 1:43:32 GMT -5
This thread got funny.
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Mar 9, 2024 9:27:04 GMT -5
It always was gonna happen haha. You know this place. You know toy collecting fandom in general. |
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Mar 9, 2024 9:27:33 GMT -5
I am here for that Warrior too. Mine has a bit of a loose arm.
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Mar 9, 2024 12:13:25 GMT -5
I hope we get all fruity pebble cena colors re released
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Post by MonsoonMan on Mar 9, 2024 12:41:29 GMT -5
i for one an very excited for this line. i literally could buy this whole set if i wanted because i dont have any of the figures being offered in my collection right now---WHYYY becuase theyre so expensive on the secondary. at the end of they day all these are are action figures to me and i mean ill pay up a certain amount for a figure i really want, but i draw the line and stay behind it. any time im searching on ebay and see figure listed anywhere over $50 i chuckle and any figures over $100-200 i just laugh. like really though thats an insane price to ask for an action figure. and honestly the people that bank on these figures being investments and that are getting cranky that their figures are worthless now....good! quit being silly and get over it. no one was ever going to buy them from you anyways.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Mar 9, 2024 13:25:14 GMT -5
i for one an very excited for this line. i literally could buy this whole set if i wanted because i dont have any of the figures being offered in my collection right now---WHYYY becuase theyre so expensive on the secondary. at the end of they day all these are are action figures to me and i mean ill pay up a certain amount for a figure i really want, but i draw the line and stay behind it. any time im searching on ebay and see figure listed anywhere over $50 i chuckle and any figures over $100-200 i just laugh. like really though thats an insane price to ask for an action figure. and honestly the people that bank on these figures being investments and that are getting cranky that their figures are worthless now....good! quit being silly and get over it. no one was ever going to buy them from you anyways. There is so much nonsense in this post I can’t even handle it. You don’t think people buy figures in the secondary market? People were just bidding over $100 for that VERY RECENT Defining Moment Cody. You say you would “pay up” a certain amount for a figure you really want, but the laugh at anything around $50. How much are you “paying up” then? An extra 5 bucks? If $50 is too much for a figure you really want that is no longer in production then you might be in the wrong hobby. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2024 13:45:50 GMT -5
“You need to do what I think you should do.”
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Post by rkmo: Everyone Else but Me on Mar 9, 2024 14:09:42 GMT -5
- Item gets produced
- Demand outpaces supply
- Item's value increases, people complain
- Similar item gets produced to ease demand
- People lose their shit
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2024 14:16:51 GMT -5
- Item gets produced - Demand outpaces supply - Item's value increases, people complain - Similar item gets produced to ease demand - People lose their crap We need WFigs shirts made. WF logo on the front, this on the back. Just one of many ideas. |
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Post by WOOOOOO on Mar 9, 2024 15:42:39 GMT -5
i for one an very excited for this line. i literally could buy this whole set if i wanted because i dont have any of the figures being offered in my collection right now---WHYYY becuase theyre so expensive on the secondary. at the end of they day all these are are action figures to me and i mean ill pay up a certain amount for a figure i really want, but i draw the line and stay behind it. any time im searching on ebay and see figure listed anywhere over $50 i chuckle and any figures over $100-200 i just laugh. like really though thats an insane price to ask for an action figure. and honestly the people that bank on these figures being investments and that are getting cranky that their figures are worthless now....good! quit being silly and get over it. no one was ever going to buy them from you anyways. That's comical you think people won't pay for collectibles. Just because you won't doesn't mean anything. I've sold figures, not wrestling, for thousands of dollars. Wrestling figures sell for several hundred as well pretty regularly. There are plenty of people with plenty of money that collect too. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Mar 9, 2024 16:28:05 GMT -5
- Item gets produced - Demand outpaces supply - Item's value increases, people complain - Similar item gets produced to ease demand - People lose their crap According to some people on here, “items value increases” shouldn’t happen. Toys shouldn’t increase in value and no one pays the increased value… |
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Post by rkmo: Everyone Else but Me on Mar 9, 2024 16:37:05 GMT -5
- Item gets produced - Demand outpaces supply - Item's value increases, people complain - Similar item gets produced to ease demand - People lose their crap According to some people on here, “items value increases” shouldn’t happen. Toys shouldn’t increase in value and no one pays the increased value… And nobody should bank on that happening either. |
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