NPC8008
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Post by NPC8008 on Feb 16, 2024 12:35:16 GMT -5
I mean, this just ain't it There are soo many 3rd party makers out there just hitting this belt out of the park. I just really feel that Mattel needs to take another crack at this mold. IDK, Maybe release it with a DX In Your House Shawn Michaels Ultimate. I know Mattel can make a good mold in a larger scale:
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Post by Flair Forever on Feb 16, 2024 12:56:12 GMT -5
what's your gripe with it? The thickness of the strap? The "gold" color? The detail (or lack of)?
Honestly, I think the plates and leather strap are too thick and the luster of the belt seems off; The better customs I've seen have the detail etched in a little finer/better and the luster is much closer to your 2nd example....
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jt
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Post by jt on Feb 16, 2024 13:04:28 GMT -5
Personally I'd much rather see that Big Gold mold from the Nitro crowdfunder come back. It bugs the hell out of me Flair and Dusty have the wrong version of that belt
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Feb 16, 2024 13:07:34 GMT -5
The belts need to sit on the figs waist better as well. They are way too boxy, needs to have more of a curve.
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Post by gentlemanjohnny on Feb 16, 2024 13:19:21 GMT -5
I’ll sign that petition. Something’s off with it. It could be better.
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Post by NPC8008 on Feb 16, 2024 13:30:11 GMT -5
what's your gripe with it? The thickness of the strap? The "gold" color? The detail (or lack of)? Honestly, I think the plates and leather strap are too thick and the luster of the belt seems off; The better customs I've seen have the detail etched in a little finer/better and the luster is much closer to your 2nd example.... The main plate. It just looks too stretched out and there is a major lack of detail. Also the ring posts are suppose to stand out and almost be separate, but with this current mold, they are connected by this flat blank gold space the really messes up the whole overall shape of the original design.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Feb 16, 2024 18:02:05 GMT -5
It’s the worst of all the belts and way overdue a refresh. Plates, particularly the main one too think, blurred/merged lack of detail, too yellow.
The quality of figures Mattel have been putting out in the last couple of years in particular, far outweigh the naffness of the belts and I really hope they redress the balance soon.
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Post by Mr. #1derful 🇵🇸 on Feb 16, 2024 18:39:24 GMT -5
they are connected by this flat blank gold space the really messes up the whole overall shape of the original design. Perhaps it's a QC/stability issue having 4 thin pieces sticking out. The Jakks winged eagle was the same way; I'd paint the blank sections black on both. I agree with the main plate looking stretched
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Post by coldblooded on Feb 16, 2024 18:53:56 GMT -5
I don't even care for them anymore since taking the plates off and dremeling/sanding off the pegs and super gluing the now flat plates to leather.
12+ years with same molds should be grounds for new ones to be made.
The belts are too thick in general then you add thick plates the belts just look out of place.
Can Mattel offer "Premium" or "Ultimate" belts along the lines of the 3d printers? I don't see why not as its own thing if it would be too expensive to include with figures? Since ultimate figures are now getting basic titles as well.
Imo this is something that could better utilize the crowd fund.
Why do we have to have entrance stages all the time? Something like premium title belts should be seriously considered for crowd funding.
Maybe a figure to go with said belt in a crowd fund? 5 wrestlers 5 brand new premium titles?
Change up the eras for other crowd fund titles in future. Idk id but a couple of those each tbh.
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Post by kgchampion on Feb 16, 2024 19:02:15 GMT -5
It’s awfully wide. Same with the classic IC. So they don’t look good on the slimmer waists of figures like HBK and Bret Hart.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 16, 2024 19:11:50 GMT -5
Mattel’s belts overall are pretty weak. I remember being unimpressed when I first got into the line and my opinion hasn’t really changed since. I am more partial to Jakks RA belts.
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Post by HHH316 on Feb 16, 2024 20:07:25 GMT -5
I’m not one to get bent out of shape over things like wrong boots, missing wrist tape, etc. But this desperately needs a redo. I’m not asking for a Forbidden Figurines level of detail, but there’s got to be a better middle ground.
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MonsoonMan
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Post by MonsoonMan on Feb 16, 2024 20:28:57 GMT -5
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Post by ztj_wwf on Feb 16, 2024 20:44:47 GMT -5
It’s too wide. I’ve never understood why. The Jakks one was much better.
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Post by ricflair4ever on Feb 17, 2024 2:36:57 GMT -5
I agree completely. I'm pretty laid back in terms of being a stickler for minor details etc, but I truly think we need a new mold for this one. Entirely too wide middle plate. Its been the same release since it debuted so I think its time for another swing at this one. The Jakks Classic Deluxe version is better than this one in terms of the look of the main plate. But I'm not a fan of the old style "zip" straps that Jakks gave us. Hopefully Mattel will get around to a new one.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Feb 17, 2024 20:24:16 GMT -5
I always thought this mold was off, Mattel’s always looked too wide. I think Jakks belt was better in terms of the look. On another hand we need a resized WCW US belt, it looks way too big. I also hope we get a shot at a WCW heavyweight belt at some point.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2024 21:04:28 GMT -5
Third party sellers/hobbyists aren’t mass producing these. They’re custom made and individually hand painted.
If you need completely lifelike titles for your action figures, look into those custom titles. Mattel make toys.
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Post by TheHitmanKid on Feb 18, 2024 0:09:46 GMT -5
Whoa whoa whoa!
We need a resized WCW United States belt first.
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Post by TheHitmanKid on Feb 18, 2024 0:12:11 GMT -5
That does make the Winhed eagle look better. Have you thought about making the hardcore belt using the vac type belt and adding small pieces of duck tape? Your skills seem to be able to pull it off.
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MonsoonMan
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Post by MonsoonMan on Feb 18, 2024 10:19:21 GMT -5
Whoa whoa whoa! We need a resized WCW United States belt first. That does make the Winhed eagle look better. Have you thought about making the hardcore belt using the vac type belt and adding small pieces of duck tape? Your skills seem to be able to pull it off. i certainly could 🤷♂️ i had actually used some sort of HVAC tape on the custom belt i have pictured it was like a foil type material that was shiny silver but still pretty adhesive. i just cut it into small little strips to apply them to the belt
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