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Post by rkmo: The FOCUS Method on Feb 15, 2024 10:18:51 GMT -5
That's great advice for a teenager, but companies don't pay their bills with hugs. Advertisers, sponsors, tv executives and owners want money. And you don't have to be "the E" to accomplish that. Tony Khan just has to learn from his mistakes but has demonstrated that he's either incapable or unwilling to do so. Again ... TNA still exists. So does MLW. NWA even has a show. NJPW has a show too. You seem to think AEW simply HAS to get the same ratings and make the same profits that WWE does ... and that's simply not true. They're #2, they know they're #2, they're happy to be #2. Being comfortable in your lane doesn't mean you have to always forsake an easy payday and sabotage your own chances for success.
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Post by kinnikuman on Feb 15, 2024 10:56:54 GMT -5
Again ... TNA still exists. So does MLW. NWA even has a show. NJPW has a show too. You seem to think AEW simply HAS to get the same ratings and make the same profits that WWE does ... and that's simply not true. They're #2, they know they're #2, they're happy to be #2. Being comfortable in your lane doesn't mean you have to always forsake an easy payday and sabotage your own chances for success. I'm pretty sure they're doing quite well.
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Post by K5 on Feb 15, 2024 15:36:07 GMT -5
That's great advice for a teenager, but companies don't pay their bills with hugs. Advertisers, sponsors, tv executives and owners want money. And you don't have to be "the E" to accomplish that. Tony Khan just has to learn from his mistakes but has demonstrated that he's either incapable or unwilling to do so. Again ... TNA still exists. So does MLW. NWA even has a show. NJPW has a show too. You seem to think AEW simply HAS to get the same ratings and make the same profits that WWE does ... and that's simply not true. They're #2, they know they're #2, they're happy to be #2. if they're happy being number 2, why does TK go nuts on Twitter every time he gets a W over his competitors? instead of you speaking for them, let's look at their actions. and they seem to be striving for more but making bad steps.
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Post by J-MANN on Feb 15, 2024 19:06:40 GMT -5
Again ... TNA still exists. So does MLW. NWA even has a show. NJPW has a show too. You seem to think AEW simply HAS to get the same ratings and make the same profits that WWE does ... and that's simply not true. They're #2, they know they're #2, they're happy to be #2. if they're happy being number 2, why does TK go nuts on Twitter every time he gets a W over his competitors? instead of you speaking for them, let's look at their actions. and they seem to be striving for more but making bad steps. 💯
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Post by kinnikuman on Feb 15, 2024 20:50:39 GMT -5
Again ... TNA still exists. So does MLW. NWA even has a show. NJPW has a show too. You seem to think AEW simply HAS to get the same ratings and make the same profits that WWE does ... and that's simply not true. They're #2, they know they're #2, they're happy to be #2. if they're happy being number 2, why does TK go nuts on Twitter every time he gets a W over his competitors? instead of you speaking for them, let's look at their actions. and they seem to be striving for more but making bad steps. Because he's loony and needs to stay off social media? They can strive do be as big as they want in their own way. Why does everyone think they should copy some formula?
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Post by K5 on Feb 16, 2024 3:13:35 GMT -5
if they're happy being number 2, why does TK go nuts on Twitter every time he gets a W over his competitors? instead of you speaking for them, let's look at their actions. and they seem to be striving for more but making bad steps. Because he's loony and needs to stay off social media? They can strive do be as big as they want in their own way. Why does everyone think they should copy some formula? I do not think they should copy wwe's formula. I also do not think they should use the one that is proving futile. pointing out holes in the boat while we're sinking is not wishing the boat to sink.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Feb 16, 2024 9:04:32 GMT -5
Because he's loony and needs to stay off social media? They can strive do be as big as they want in their own way. Why does everyone think they should copy some formula? I do not think they should copy wwe's formula. I also do not think they should use the one that is proving futile. pointing out holes in the boat while we're sinking is not wishing the boat to sink. I’m a big fan of their finally being a big alternative, it has made wwe step their game up, it’s great. I’m a huge fan of a lot of the talent, i buy merch, I go to every local show, I buy some ppvs, but I do not like Tony khan, I think he is a clown that hurts his company more than he helps and I hate his booking about 60%-70% of the time. That sting/Darby vs bucks feud started off soft with some soft booking. The angle last week was great, heated it up real quick, great heel work from the bucks….the follow up was awful, they don’t mention it, crappy “we are the bosses” booking and they person they put over the most in the entire segment is headlining Wrestlemania in a month. Too much insider garbage that has proven time and time again rarely works.
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Post by ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕠 𝕂𝕚𝕝𝕝 on Feb 16, 2024 9:25:17 GMT -5
Because he's loony and needs to stay off social media? They can strive do be as big as they want in their own way. Why does everyone think they should copy some formula? I do not think they should copy wwe's formula. I also do not think they should use the one that is proving futile. pointing out holes in the boat while we're sinking is not wishing the boat to sink. Hey YOU BETTER NOT SAY 'WWE' IN THIS THREAD PAL!!! 🔒🔒🔒🔒🔒🔒
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Post by kinnikuman on Feb 16, 2024 10:20:58 GMT -5
Because he's loony and needs to stay off social media? They can strive do be as big as they want in their own way. Why does everyone think they should copy some formula? I do not think they should copy wwe's formula. I also do not think they should use the one that is proving futile. pointing out holes in the boat while we're sinking is not wishing the boat to sink. Why do you think AEW is sinking? Ratings are good enough for "wrasslin". Their merch makes money. They still book large arenas. I'm just curious as to where you think AEW should be in the grand scheme of things. They'll never compete with WWE. So ... what does "next best" look like to you?
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Post by K5 on Feb 16, 2024 11:17:34 GMT -5
I do not think they should copy wwe's formula. I also do not think they should use the one that is proving futile. pointing out holes in the boat while we're sinking is not wishing the boat to sink. Why do you think AEW is sinking? Ratings are good enough for "wrasslin". Their merch makes money. They still book large arenas. I'm just curious as to where you think AEW should be in the grand scheme of things. They'll never compete with WWE. So ... what does "next best" look like to you? i don't bring the other company up in this convo, you do. I simply think that AEW should be developing and growing as a company - how they develop their talents, how they develop their angles, how they develop their identity and product. the aew i have been watching in a diminishing fashion for the last year has slowed their progression in that manner. should the baby be thrown out with the bath water? no. but pretending like there isn't absolutely glaring issues and that a lot of people's criticisms aren't grounded in validity when they are does absolutely nothing but fuel dumb tribal bs.
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Post by kinnikuman on Feb 16, 2024 16:22:06 GMT -5
Why do you think AEW is sinking? Ratings are good enough for "wrasslin". Their merch makes money. They still book large arenas. I'm just curious as to where you think AEW should be in the grand scheme of things. They'll never compete with WWE. So ... what does "next best" look like to you? i don't bring the other company up in this convo, you do. I simply think that AEW should be developing and growing as a company - how they develop their talents, how they develop their angles, how they develop their identity and product. the aew i have been watching in a diminishing fashion for the last year has slowed their progression in that manner. should the baby be thrown out with the bath water? no. but pretending like there isn't absolutely glaring issues and that a lot of people's criticisms aren't grounded in validity when they are does absolutely nothing but fuel dumb tribal bs. Odd though. I don't see any faults in the product. So as for now, it's purely opinions. You and a couple guys on here, or some dudes on Reddit don't speak for everyone ... just like I don't.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Feb 16, 2024 17:18:29 GMT -5
Stings last match gonna be insane
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Post by switchbladeera on Feb 16, 2024 20:52:58 GMT -5
Queen Aminata is a great signing. Dripping with potential.
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Post by K5 on Feb 17, 2024 18:20:33 GMT -5
i don't bring the other company up in this convo, you do. I simply think that AEW should be developing and growing as a company - how they develop their talents, how they develop their angles, how they develop their identity and product. the aew i have been watching in a diminishing fashion for the last year has slowed their progression in that manner. should the baby be thrown out with the bath water? no. but pretending like there isn't absolutely glaring issues and that a lot of people's criticisms aren't grounded in validity when they are does absolutely nothing but fuel dumb tribal bs. Odd though. I don't see any faults in the product. So as for now, it's purely opinions. You and a couple guys on here, or some dudes on Reddit don't speak for everyone ... just like I don't. the faults directly lead to damage to talents trajectories in the company and industry, as long as stifled the company itself in development, so its beyond just opinion. when everyone but the rare few says there's a problem, there is probably a problem
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Post by kinnikuman on Feb 17, 2024 19:10:11 GMT -5
Odd though. I don't see any faults in the product. So as for now, it's purely opinions. You and a couple guys on here, or some dudes on Reddit don't speak for everyone ... just like I don't. the faults directly lead to damage to talents trajectories in the company and industry, as long as stifled the company itself in development, so its beyond just opinion. when everyone but the rare few says there's a problem, there is probably a problem Show me your majority numbers data and I'll let you "win" lol.
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Post by K5 on Feb 17, 2024 19:14:08 GMT -5
the faults directly lead to damage to talents trajectories in the company and industry, as long as stifled the company itself in development, so its beyond just opinion. when everyone but the rare few says there's a problem, there is probably a problem Show me your majority numbers data and I'll let you "win" lol. there is talent, people working within the industry, and large masses of fans saying so i don't need to win though, i've stated my point which is all i was looking to do.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Feb 17, 2024 19:32:28 GMT -5
Sting won't be wrestling anymore, but I'd keep him with Darby tbh. Let him manage him forever lol.
Keep Flair around as well!!
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Post by bWo on Feb 17, 2024 20:40:00 GMT -5
"Yeah I just don't see what you are all seeing and pointing out................"
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Post by J-MANN on Feb 17, 2024 21:27:27 GMT -5
"Yeah I just don't see what you are all seeing and pointing out................" This is soooooo accurate.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Feb 18, 2024 0:02:22 GMT -5
Bucks are going to have to win at Revolution. Them losing and Sting actually retiring makes no sense any other way. Bucks gotta win
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