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Post by CM Tusk on Aug 11, 2023 15:45:01 GMT -5
I am talking strictly in the realms of pro wrestling as far as the GOAT discussion. Not his personal life. He’s not the greatest of all time. Getting so bent out of shape because someone doesn’t share your opinion on fake ass pro wrestling. Sad. Pot calling the kettle black because you're still going on and on and on about it, pal. So are you, bucko. |
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Post by rkmo: Autonomous Meat Shield on Aug 11, 2023 15:49:47 GMT -5
Are we gonna need another cleanup here? Some of you's guys should already have a warning from this week.
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Post by CM Tusk on Aug 11, 2023 16:01:03 GMT -5
Are we gonna need another cleanup here? Some of you's guys should already have a warning from this week. Someone stated their opinion that Becky is a GOAT. I simply stated my opinion Hogan isn’t either. And I got called a virgin and a jabroni mark. Haha I don’t think I did anything wrong here. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2023 16:05:07 GMT -5
Are we gonna need another cleanup here? Some of you's guys should already have a warning from this week. Someone stated their opinion that Becky is a GOAT. I simply stated my opinion Hogan isn’t either. And I got called a virgin and a jabroni mark. Haha I don’t think I did anything wrong here. Nobody directly addressed you...? |
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Aug 11, 2023 16:24:01 GMT -5
I don’t normally jump into these arguments, because there’s no point.
But it’s Hulk’s birthday, so I’ll get this thread closed by going scorched earth.
Wrestling became a TV business in the 80’s. You can argue until the cows come home about how your favorite would’ve been better or could’ve been able to handle it just as well. No. Nobody could have done it better. Terry Bollea has that shameless self promotion gene that allowed him to ride that wave for as long as he did. Wrestling might not even be around today if it weren’t for Vince and Hogan. If it was it wouldn’t be nearly as big. WWE certainly wouldn’t be on Fox or sold for billions without Hogan’s blood, sweat, and tears.
Hogan wasn’t as big in 94, but his name still got WCW Nitro, which kept WCW viable. Monday Night Wars, Attitude Era, all of that was a direct response to getting f*cked in the ass by Nitro. None of this happens without Hogan.
He passed the torch twice, and he made a lot of guys. Yeah, he held your favorites down. Boo hoo, they didn’t get to beat him in a fake fight or for a fake belt. They still made their millions. He’s kind to fans (unlike many others), he never injured anyone, he didn’t get anyone fired, he never beat his wife or kids, and damn sure never committed a murder/suicide. I don’t care what he did or said. He’s a flawed human, he’s a selfish businessman, and he shoots off at the mouth like nobody else, but as people go he’s a pretty good guy overall. But let’s keep bringing up something stupid that he said years ago that has never been reflected in his actions. If this were anyone else it would be forgotten.
I don’t respect people who don’t respect what he’s done or recognize that without Hogan, whether they were fans or not, made wrestling big business. The world was changing, the race to the new millennium was fueled by television, and he was the perfect guy at the perfect time to rule the television era of wrestling. He borrowed from two of the greatest showmen of all time, combined their powers, and created the superhero that was needed to thrive in the wild, colorful 80’s.
He held on to his position with an iron grip because he didn’t want to let it go, but he’d have lost the spot long ago if he wasn’t big enough business to justify his position. It’s all about the money. You don’t like him? So what? Too bad. No matter how hard you try you’re not going to be able to re-write history to diminish his importance. You can hate him and cry about how horrible he is all that you want. The fact that wrestling is such a huge TV business today is a testament to how big he was in the 80’s and late 90’s. In-ring? Not great in the technical sense, but wrestling is showbusiness, not a sport. It’s about the fans, not the wrestlers, and he’s done a lot for the fans.
You might not like his style, you may not like his methods, and you may just not like him, but if you claim that he’s not the most important professional wrestler ever, you’re lying to yourself.
Hogan
Andre
Dusty
Flair
Thesz
In that order.
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Post by stormbreaker on Aug 11, 2023 16:33:34 GMT -5
I don’t normally jump into these arguments, because there’s no point. But it’s Hulk’s birthday… That was pretty awesome. I have something I want to add, but first I’ve got to finish my mighty workout. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2023 16:38:28 GMT -5
Lmao Jesus. I love it.
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Post by CM Tusk on Aug 11, 2023 16:41:03 GMT -5
Again, “greatest” is subjective. I don’t see him as the greatest of all time.
Also the “If it wasn’t for him!” thing is tired. If it wasn’t for Dusty, Superstar and Vince Hulkamania wouldn’t have been what it was. He borrowed heavily from Rhodes and Graham. McMahon is the one that gave him the national platform. He wasn’t going to set the world on fired under Gagne.
Also put respect on Hogans opponents who helped build his stock. He didn’t do it all by himself. Piper, Savage, Wonderful, among others were needed as heels to make the babyface as big as he was. No wrestler does it by themselves. You think Wrestlemania 3 would have been as big as it was if Andre had been replaced by Adrian Adonis?
I’m a Stone Cold mark. I’m not going to sit here and act like he defeated WCW all by himself.
Like I said, Hogan is the biggest name. I haven’t tried to dispute him. I don’t see him at one of the greatest though. My opinion. Don’t like it? Cry on the internet wrestling forum he helped create or something. It’s not that big a deal. It’s a toy set with four wrestlers in it. Hogan on one end, Becky on the other.
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Post by Mr. Show on Aug 11, 2023 18:00:41 GMT -5
4 all-time great figures. I’m glad I found one to keep MOC before they got recalled. Found a second one but they couldn’t sell it to me. Oh well. I’ll wait for the rerelease to get one to open.
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Post by LK3 on Aug 11, 2023 19:55:41 GMT -5
None of these people are goats. They’re people, not animals. What’s wrong with you all?
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