viper412
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Post by viper412 on Jun 8, 2023 18:38:19 GMT -5
I think it's not about toyetic.... It's about character.... People are fan of legends and old school wrestlers in their iconic looks . toyetic matters a lot more to (1) casual buyers and (2) people we have many different figures for (see Mox complaints) are there really casual toy buyers lol |
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Post by shanieomaniac on Jun 20, 2023 10:52:50 GMT -5
I really think this has to do with how AEW is a different flavor of wrestling than WWE. WWE is all about characters and sports entertainment. NOT that that's a bed thing, it just is what it is. AEW is focused on wrestling.
You don't have a whole lot of people like Luchasaurus, Danhausen, and Abadon in AEW because that's really not the point of the company nor has it ever been. Also, AEW is still a really new company in a world where WWE owns the rights to damn near everyone and everything.
Jazwares is doing the best it can with what it has to work with as far as "toyetic" people go. With the hints of a ROH line coming, then maybe we'll have some more options, especially if they could somehow secure the rights to ROH and indy wrestlers who aren't signed to WWE. I'd love to see a Chris Hero figure. And, since they already have 3/4ths of the stable, find a way to give me Mt. Rushmore. (I can make the Steen myself from a KO figure). But really, I think this is just a side effect of the different approaches of the different companies and yeah. They're doing what they can.
There's far bigger gripes to have with Jazwares at this point. Like being face blind and having no clue how to make a proper headsculpt.
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Post by finnbalor1 on Jun 20, 2023 11:51:56 GMT -5
I never understood this theory of WWE is full of silly,crazy and wacky characters because all they care about is sports entertainment but AEW is only focused on wrestling. Seen it couple times in this thread alone. Maybe I'm just forgetting but who's all these wacky characters on the current roster in WWE because I cant really come up with any besides maybe the Viking Raiders? Seems like a dinosaur and zombie would be considered more of silly characters then anybody on WWE's roster🤷🏼♂️
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Post by crush on Jun 20, 2023 15:23:52 GMT -5
I really think this has to do with how AEW is a different flavor of wrestling than WWE. WWE is all about characters and sports entertainment. NOT that that's a bed thing, it just is what it is. AEW is focused on wrestling. You don't have a whole lot of people like Luchasaurus, Danhausen, and Abadon in AEW because that's really not the point of the company nor has it ever been. Also, AEW is still a really new company in a world where WWE owns the rights to damn near everyone and everything. Jazwares is doing the best it can with what it has to work with as far as "toyetic" people go. With the hints of a ROH line coming, then maybe we'll have some more options, especially if they could somehow secure the rights to ROH and indy wrestlers who aren't signed to WWE. I'd love to see a Chris Hero figure. And, since they already have 3/4ths of the stable, find a way to give me Mt. Rushmore. (I can make the Steen myself from a KO figure). But really, I think this is just a side effect of the different approaches of the different companies and yeah. They're doing what they can. There's far bigger gripes to have with Jazwares at this point. Like being face blind and having no clue how to make a proper headsculpt. I mean, WWE doesn't have many people like that either 🤷♀️ |
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Post by crush on Jun 20, 2023 15:29:24 GMT -5
A further overall thought on this thread: It's interesting how people are defining toyetic. Like, don't get me wrong, colorful and/or over the top stuff like Luchasaurus or the Viking Raiders (to use examples form each company) are up there, but on the other hand are we really going to say that CM Punk isn't "toyetic" by the definition of being eye-catching on shelves? Or Kenny and the Bucks, or on the other "side", Seth Rollins or Edge or etc.
Also, I think that the idea of wrestling figures that appeal to kids who don't like wrestling is, for the most part, a myth.
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Post by secondwhiteline on Jun 21, 2023 1:22:28 GMT -5
A further overall thought on this thread: It's interesting how people are defining toyetic. Like, don't get me wrong, colorful and/or over the top stuff like Luchasaurus or the Viking Raiders (to use examples form each company) are up there, but on the other hand are we really going to say that CM Punk isn't "toyetic" by the definition of being eye-catching on shelves? Or Kenny and the Bucks, or on the other "side", Seth Rollins or Edge or etc. Also, I think that the idea of wrestling figures that appeal to kids who don't like wrestling is, for the most part, a myth. Oh, it's not the kids you necessarily have to appeal to. It's the well-meaning aunts and uncles and grandparents who need a quick gift for the kids. That's how a fandom is accidentally born. |
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Post by crush on Jun 21, 2023 9:18:57 GMT -5
A further overall thought on this thread: It's interesting how people are defining toyetic. Like, don't get me wrong, colorful and/or over the top stuff like Luchasaurus or the Viking Raiders (to use examples form each company) are up there, but on the other hand are we really going to say that CM Punk isn't "toyetic" by the definition of being eye-catching on shelves? Or Kenny and the Bucks, or on the other "side", Seth Rollins or Edge or etc. Also, I think that the idea of wrestling figures that appeal to kids who don't like wrestling is, for the most part, a myth. Oh, it's not the kids you necessarily have to appeal to. It's the well-meaning aunts and uncles and grandparents who need a quick gift for the kids. That's how a fandom is accidentally born. I get it, but if that aunt/uncle/grandparent wants to get them a "wrestler" they'll likely go for something that looks more like a "wrestler" and if they don't want a "wrestler" they'll likely go for something like a Power Ranger or a superhero or a Star Wars toy or whatever over going for a wrestler. Now, I'm not saying it's NEVER happened or anything like that, just that I think it's a bit overstated sometimes. |
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Post by secondwhiteline on Jun 21, 2023 10:09:33 GMT -5
Oh, it's not the kids you necessarily have to appeal to. It's the well-meaning aunts and uncles and grandparents who need a quick gift for the kids. That's how a fandom is accidentally born. I get it, but if that aunt/uncle/grandparent wants to get them a "wrestler" they'll likely go for something that looks more like a "wrestler" and if they don't want a "wrestler" they'll likely go for something like a Power Ranger or a superhero or a Star Wars toy or whatever over going for a wrestler. Now, I'm not saying it's NEVER happened or anything like that, just that I think it's a bit overstated sometimes. I might overstate it because it's exactly how I got into wrestling. I got a Hasbro Hulk Hogan and Rick Rude for my birthday when I was 5 and that's what made me want to watch. "Wrestler" is just another archetype to older relatives, like "superhero" or "Power Ranger," and most of them don't really know what the kids are into. Like, your aunt and uncle don't know if you like wrestlers when you're 8, they just know wrestlers are a thing kids might like, and the figures are cheap but look more solid than the Star Wars ones. |
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Post by dizneyfist on Jul 18, 2023 17:27:51 GMT -5
I may be alone, but the Hangman in his cowboy outfit is my favorite Hangman figure. No, MDT has expressed the same sentiment. |
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Post by dizneyfist on Jul 18, 2023 17:49:14 GMT -5
Luchasaurus had so much potential but failed miserably where it should count most. Possibility is weak and barely has enough range of motion to execute moves or compete with other action figure lines alike. The scuplt was almost perfect, however his arms are too short. His hands are also tiny considering how massive
the figure is.
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Post by Lucas Legacy on Jul 24, 2023 10:28:14 GMT -5
Why doesn’t AEW’s toyline have anything toyetic like what WWE makes? Nobody is going to buy a Nyla Rose figure or civilian gear Hangman Page. I think Nyla Rose is very toyetic. Her figure kinda looks like a Marvel villain. I dig it. |
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Post by captncharisma19 on Jul 27, 2023 23:13:42 GMT -5
I may be alone, but the Hangman in his cowboy outfit is my favorite Hangman figure. No, MDT has expressed the same sentiment. I bought 4 of them, it's so good for future body swaps and in and of itself as well. Top 5 fig of last year. I have both Nylas, they're good too. These are still niche characters. One thing jazwares needs to do is get away from black on black on black gear. That is what isn't toyetic. The AEW shelves look like the figs are going to a metal show. |
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Post by shanieomaniac on Aug 6, 2023 1:34:29 GMT -5
No, MDT has expressed the same sentiment. I bought 4 of them, it's so good for future body swaps and in and of itself as well. Top 5 fig of last year. I have both Nylas, they're good too. These are still niche characters. One thing jazwares needs to do is get away from black on black on black gear. That is what isn't toyetic. The AEW shelves look like the figs are going to a metal show. The black on black gear is pretty horrible in my opinion, especially when there are plenty of people NOT wearing black on black gear. Take the Young Bucks, for example. Probably the most colorful gear/attire in all of wrestling right now outside of Seth Rollins. So why are the last two sets of them in black? They've come out in colors ranging from neon pastel to something that looks like it belongs in The Barbie Movie. Why oh WHY are they being put in black gear??? It doesn't make sense. And Hangman. I adore the street clothes Hangman. My favorite one of him by far, especially the Walmart Exclusive. But, again, THE BLACK! You had a regular version and an exclusive version and, from what I've been told, the Walmart version is actually a navy blue shirt that they changed to MAKE it black. WHY? There are more than enough people on the roster who wear black that they should get their fill without specifically going with black attires for people who don't exclusively wear black. It drives me nuts. Have some variety in your color schemes and maybe people will want to buy your figures more often, especially if you are going to keep releasing the same seven people over and over. If you're going to do repeats of characters, you need to give us reasons to own multiples. Unfortunately, it seems to me that this line is getting worse, not better, and that's not even factoring in the idiotic situation with the chases. Do better Jazwares. Please. For everyone's sake. |
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