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Post by mrh on Aug 8, 2023 22:49:06 GMT -5
Is it me, or does anyone like what was produced of Slaughter by Hasbro better than the LJN proto?
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Post by jason1980s on Aug 8, 2023 22:59:43 GMT -5
Is it me, or does anyone like what was produced of Slaughter by Hasbro better than the LJN proto? I feel like the size of the Hasbro is too big for the LJN line. He's like the same height as Andre and the Grand Toys 1989 ones. The harder rubber doesn't really fit well either though the style is certainly "LJN-like." I feel like the prototype really fits the LJN style better. I'm used to Slaughter being fatter so I feel like the proto is out of place but then I remember he was smaller back then so it really does fit the time period. I don't collect anything anymore but if I were, I'd def. be getting these. They all fit so well with the LJNs and to have Matt personally answering questions is very important to the communication. |
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Post by MKSavage on Aug 9, 2023 8:49:59 GMT -5
Is it me, or does anyone like what was produced of Slaughter by Hasbro better than the LJN proto? Yeah, I like the pose of the Hasbro figure better. I think it's the legs on the LJN figure that's off, looks unrealistic. Too much thigh gap I think. |
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Post by darkprophet on Aug 9, 2023 9:09:35 GMT -5
Is it me, or does anyone like what was produced of Slaughter by Hasbro better than the LJN proto? Yeah, I like the pose of the Hasbro figure better. I think it's the legs on the LJN figure that's off, looks unrealistic. Too much thigh gap I think. The Hasbro was in my childhood fig-fed, so will always have a fondness to me. But it is too jacked and super-hero like compared to the LJNs. Slaughter in the early-mid 80s probably had a build between Volkoff and Hillbilly Jim. This new fig/ original mold seems to fit right in with those early LJNs. |
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Post by Midnight: Dark Knight on Aug 9, 2023 14:11:35 GMT -5
I love all these but i don’t remember slaughter at all during this era. Even all the memories i have of ljns and wrestling at 2-5yrs old, slaughter was never on my tv. How would he even fit in series 1? Even if it was planned he would have been so out of place as a main character to the others in my opinion. Was he a prominent character at that time and ive just blocked it from memory? Where/how would he fit in with that 1985 set?
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Post by MKSavage on Aug 9, 2023 14:49:23 GMT -5
I love all these but i don’t remember slaughter at all during this era. Even all the memories i have of ljns and wrestling at 2-5yrs old, slaughter was never on my tv. How would he even fit in series 1? Even if it was planned he would have been so out of place as a main character to the others in my opinion. Was he a prominent character at that time and ive just blocked it from memory? Where/how would he fit in with that 1985 set? He was the #3 baby face in the company during 1984, behind only Hogan and Andre. He had a huge feud with the Iron Sheik that year. I believe he was gone by the end of the year because he signed with Hasbro and GI Joe. Had he still been around, I believe he would have been on the WM1 PPV. |
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Post by darkprophet on Aug 9, 2023 15:14:58 GMT -5
I love all these but i don’t remember slaughter at all during this era. Even all the memories i have of ljns and wrestling at 2-5yrs old, slaughter was never on my tv. How would he even fit in series 1? Even if it was planned he would have been so out of place as a main character to the others in my opinion. Was he a prominent character at that time and ive just blocked it from memory? Where/how would he fit in with that 1985 set? He was the #3 baby face in the company during 1984, behind only Hogan and Andre. He had a huge feud with the Iron Sheik that year. I believe he was gone by the end of the year because he signed with Hasbro and GI Joe. Had he still been around, I believe he would have been on the WM1 PPV. Didn’t the first wave actually come out in 1984? And given that toys take time to produce, a series 1 Slaughter would seemingly fit. At least as much so as Ventura in tights and Samartino (I know he was in the Mania 2 battle royal, but still). Regardless, I am right there with you, as I posted earlier, in not having Slaughter in my childhood memories of WWF. He was definitely not a part of the rock n’ wrestling boom period, to my recollection. |
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Post by MKSavage on Aug 9, 2023 18:21:39 GMT -5
He was the #3 baby face in the company during 1984, behind only Hogan and Andre. He had a huge feud with the Iron Sheik that year. I believe he was gone by the end of the year because he signed with Hasbro and GI Joe. Had he still been around, I believe he would have been on the WM1 PPV. Didn’t the first wave actually come out in 1984? And given that toys take time to produce, a series 1 Slaughter would seemingly fit. At least as much so as Ventura in tights and Samartino (I know he was in the Mania 2 battle royal, but still). Regardless, I am right there with you, as I posted earlier, in not having Slaughter in my childhood memories of WWF. He was definitely not a part of the rock n’ wrestling boom period, to my recollection. I guess it depends on when the figures actually came out. If they came out after Slaughter left in 1984, then I could see Vince not wanting to release the figure of Slaughter. Not just that, but if Slaughter was signed to Hasbro with GI Joe, then LJN probably couldn't release the figure. Here is what is said about it on wikipedia: An 8" Sgt. Slaughter figure was made by LJN. Slaughter had a contract dispute with the WWF over merchandising and left the company. The figure was never released to stores and was instead purchased by Hasbro. Hasbro then made the 8" Sarge figure available as a mail order tie-in with their G.I. Joe action figure line. |
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Post by MKSavage on Aug 9, 2023 18:23:15 GMT -5
He was the #3 baby face in the company during 1984, behind only Hogan and Andre. He had a huge feud with the Iron Sheik that year. I believe he was gone by the end of the year because he signed with Hasbro and GI Joe. Had he still been around, I believe he would have been on the WM1 PPV. Didn’t the first wave actually come out in 1984? And given that toys take time to produce, a series 1 Slaughter would seemingly fit. At least as much so as Ventura in tights and Samartino (I know he was in the Mania 2 battle royal, but still). Regardless, I am right there with you, as I posted earlier, in not having Slaughter in my childhood memories of WWF. He was definitely not a part of the rock n’ wrestling boom period, to my recollection.Yeah, I think he was gone before the end of 1984 when the WWF really started ramping up the Rock n' Wrestling connection to lead to WM1. |
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Post by mesteve on Aug 9, 2023 20:00:08 GMT -5
Didn’t the first wave actually come out in 1984? And given that toys take time to produce, a series 1 Slaughter would seemingly fit. At least as much so as Ventura in tights and Samartino (I know he was in the Mania 2 battle royal, but still). Regardless, I am right there with you, as I posted earlier, in not having Slaughter in my childhood memories of WWF. He was definitely not a part of the rock n’ wrestling boom period, to my recollection.Yeah, I think he was gone before the end of 1984 when the WWF really started ramping up the Rock n' Wrestling connection to lead to WM1. He must have left the WWF sometime in 1985 because there's a story featured on the cover of the Feb/March 1985 WWF magazine titled Sgt. Slaughter's Cobra Corps Camp. I don't think he returned to the WWF again until 1990ish, not sure of that though. |
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Aug 9, 2023 20:59:51 GMT -5
Matt, now there’s a really nice collection of figures have you thought about a ring to display them in or do you think you’ll stick to just the figures? Loving the line by the way and also your business model e.g. putting your own resources into development, no long waits, great communication, great product etc Ring will be too pricey. So no. I remember you mentioning this about the Bendies ring as well. You don’t need to mention specific dollar amounts but can you share with us what the tipping point is for what makes it too expensive to consider? Is it primarily the shipping costs due to the size or is it more about the cost of the materials (Large amount of plastic, appropriate elastic for the ropes, stickers, etc.)? |
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Post by darkprophet on Aug 9, 2023 21:25:15 GMT -5
I just listened to a Major Pod from last June, where they expressed admiration for “Superstar” Billy Graham and wished he’d had an LJN. Selfishly, I hope they don’t go into pre-Wrestlemania figures. Those would be before my time, so no personal nostalgia connection. Slaughter is the exception, due to his having been slated for an LJN.
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Aug 9, 2023 22:45:46 GMT -5
I just listened to a Major Pod from last June, where they expressed admiration for “Superstar” Billy Graham and wished he’d had an LJN. Selfishly, I hope they don’t go into pre-Wrestlemania figures. Those would be before my time, so no personal nostalgia connection. Slaughter is the exception, due to his having been slated for an LJN. What about as a manager or a commentator? |
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Post by jason1980s on Aug 9, 2023 22:51:30 GMT -5
I just listened to a Major Pod from last June, where they expressed admiration for “Superstar” Billy Graham and wished he’d had an LJN. Selfishly, I hope they don’t go into pre-Wrestlemania figures. Those would be before my time, so no personal nostalgia connection. Slaughter is the exception, due to his having been slated for an LJN. Superstar in his 1986, 1987 return outfit with his bald head, goatee look would be cool. I know one customizer or more did this and looks great. I wish someone could do an LJN checklist but with the actual timeline of when they originally made it to stores. I know the 1988 catalog has expected months when they would be released. I just wonder if series had different waves or if all released at once. Like 1986 and 1987 had so many different characters, they couldn't ALL come out at the same time? |
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Post by darkprophet on Aug 10, 2023 6:14:32 GMT -5
I just listened to a Major Pod from last June, where they expressed admiration for “Superstar” Billy Graham and wished he’d had an LJN. Selfishly, I hope they don’t go into pre-Wrestlemania figures. Those would be before my time, so no personal nostalgia connection. Slaughter is the exception, due to his having been slated for an LJN. What about as a manager or a commentator? That would fit the LJN-era, sure, but still not in my top 20 want list. |
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Post by MKSavage on Aug 10, 2023 8:13:40 GMT -5
I just listened to a Major Pod from last June, where they expressed admiration for “Superstar” Billy Graham and wished he’d had an LJN. Selfishly, I hope they don’t go into pre-Wrestlemania figures. Those would be before my time, so no personal nostalgia connection. Slaughter is the exception, due to his having been slated for an LJN. I agree he wouldn't fit with the LJN era, but I'd still buy one if they did one of him from his 1977-78 championship run. If they could do one in his signature pose, him with one arm up flexing his bicep. If not that, maybe the double bicep pose like the LJN Paul Orndorff figure. I could also see them doing one of him from his 1986/87 return when he was older. He did wrestle for a bit before moving into a managerial role at that time. |
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Post by darkprophet on Aug 10, 2023 11:15:53 GMT -5
My Top 20 Most Wanted List for this line (and yes, I know some are unrealistic):
1) Barbarian (Powers of Pain)
2) Warlord (Powers of Pain)
3) Bushwhacker Luke
4) Bushwhacker Butch
5) Akeem
6) Hercules (blue trunks, short hair)
7) Dino Bravo
8) Bad News Brown
9) “The Natural” Butch Reed
10) Uncle Elmer
11) Mr. Perfect
12) Earthquake
13) The Genius
14) King Haku
15) Islander Tama
16) “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan (blue trunks)
17) Honky Tonk Man (tights)
18) Ted DiBiase (trunks)
19) Jacques Rougeau
20) Raymond Rougeau
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Aug 10, 2023 12:03:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I think he was gone before the end of 1984 when the WWF really started ramping up the Rock n' Wrestling connection to lead to WM1. He must have left the WWF sometime in 1985 because there's a story featured on the cover of the Feb/March 1985 WWF magazine titled Sgt. Slaughter's Cobra Corps Camp. I don't think he returned to the WWF again until 1990ish, not sure of that though. His last match was in December of 1984. He returned to the AWA in January of 1985. |
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Post by darkprophet on Aug 10, 2023 12:04:23 GMT -5
My Top 20 Most Wanted List for this line (and yes, I know some are unrealistic): 1) Barbarian (Powers of Pain) 2) Warlord (Powers of Pain) 3) Bushwhacker Luke 4) Bushwhacker Butch 5) Akeem 6) Hercules (blue trunks, short hair) 7) Dino Bravo 8) Bad News Brown 9) “The Natural” Butch Reed 10) Uncle Elmer 11) Mr. Perfect 12) Earthquake 13) The Genius 14) King Haku 15) Islander Tama 16) “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan (blue trunks) 17) Honky Tonk Man (tights) 18) Ted DiBiase (trunks) 19) Jacques Rougeau 20) Raymond Rougeau And I forgot The British Bulldogs, more colorful attire, who would knock off the Rougeaus in my Top 20. I’d also be interested in Wendi Richter. I’m on the fence about Moolah and Snuka, given their reputations. |
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Post by MKSavage on Aug 10, 2023 12:27:50 GMT -5
My Top 20 Most Wanted List for this line (and yes, I know some are unrealistic): 1) Barbarian (Powers of Pain) 2) Warlord (Powers of Pain) 3) Bushwhacker Luke 4) Bushwhacker Butch 5) Akeem 6) Hercules (blue trunks, short hair) 7) Dino Bravo 8) Bad News Brown 9) “The Natural” Butch Reed 10) Uncle Elmer 11) Mr. Perfect 12) Earthquake 13) The Genius 14) King Haku 15) Islander Tama 16) “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan (blue trunks) 17) Honky Tonk Man (tights) 18) Ted DiBiase (trunks) 19) Jacques Rougeau 20) Raymond Rougeau That's a great list. |
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