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Post by Da Handsome 1 on May 21, 2023 20:22:13 GMT -5
I guess we’ll find out in 2 months If a picture exists - which it apparently does - I’d say we will find out in 2 days as opposed to 2 months. Also, let’s not overlook that Kyle eliminated 2 options in his last post. “Personally I would love Lawler Kaufman, 100 times more and it’s not Iron Mike.”It is NOT: -Mike Tyson -Andy Kauffman You’re right, pics will leak soon. Zeus leaked way before the reveal last year |
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GoCanes84
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Post by GoCanes84 on May 21, 2023 20:22:58 GMT -5
Grandpa is a Cowboys fan. It’s LT 56.
Really hoping to speak this one into existence. Would be a great two pack with Bigelow.
Edit - saw single release. D’oh.
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Post by oldschoolfool on May 21, 2023 20:25:26 GMT -5
Defintiely sounds like it could be Ali, a lot of people hated him for evading the draft and his brash persona rubbed a lot of people the wrong way as well. With that said I would guess it's Ali from WM1.
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Post by Scott! on May 21, 2023 20:30:36 GMT -5
The key words here are CROSSOVER APPEAL. Crossover: Does he/she have a brand outside of WWE? A “second act”? Tied to something that creates almost a second fan segment to touch? (Bad Bunny, Tyson, Slaughter) Appeal: In this “second act”, are they likable? YES: Bad Bunny, Slaughter, Mr. T MAYBE / NO: Pete Rose, Trump, Jesse, Tyson, Kauffman Ultimately, it doesn’t make a lot of sense for Mattel to ride out an option that has any layer of controversy around it. Too many other safer routes that don’t lead to the headaches and commentary that comes with a possible risky decision. ***And I know it’s not Bad Bunny based on the clues. (Unless he did something to upset Kyle’s grandfather when he was only an infant) The thing with Sgt Slaughter, is we just got the two Ultimate's. So what do they do that's somewhat different. GI Joe inspired? Yes I suppose, but surely Mattel will be looking elsewhere and seeing that at the moment there's a few Slaughters just been released by different company's from his GI Joe stint. The only thing I could think of is a two pack with Colonel Mustafa but they literally did those a couple years ago in the Elite line in that gimmick so would it make sense to do it again. Probably not. A Hogan/Slaughter two pack, I could see that but do we need another Hogan? |
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Post by GoCanes84 on May 21, 2023 20:33:22 GMT -5
I’d guess Rose, but we basically already have that Kane, so that wouldn’t be great. I could see it being Ali….and Monsoon? I don’t see Inoki, but maybe. I don’t know who he’d go with from Wrestlemania 1 as a ref unless we somehow got Snuka in cloth goods with wrestling attire underneath (which would be f#cking amazing). Piper is about to be released in CC, and I could see Orton and Orndorff in CC shortly as well (possibly in the same wave), so I don’t see either of them being the guy here, and there’s no reason for a Wrestlemania 1 Hogan re-release as an exclusive. Also, a ref figure seems like a waste of Ali. Other than those two I really don’t know, and even those two I don’t know who they’d go with besides the obvious (already released) choices. Trump? Billy Martin? Steinbrenner? Ozzy? G. Gordon Liddy? Lawrence Taylor? That Bill Clinton impersonator from Wrestlemania 10? Actually LT would work since we don’t have Bigelow in that attire. I don’t even think that attire has ever been released in wrestling figure form come to think of it. LT has a r*pe of a minor conviction. They aren’t going to make a figure of him, nor should they. Alright, Tusk. Use some context. Ended up a misdemeanor with no jail time. It was consensual and the girl told him she was 19. Legal age for consent in NY, where it occurred, is 17. She was 16. Not excusing him but tell the full story if you’re going to throw that out there. |
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Post by @WWERetroStars on May 21, 2023 20:35:46 GMT -5
The key words here are CROSSOVER APPEAL. Crossover: Does he/she have a brand outside of WWE? A “second act”? Tied to something that creates almost a second fan segment to touch? (Bad Bunny, Tyson, Slaughter) Appeal: In this “second act”, are they likable? YES: Bad Bunny, Slaughter, Mr. T MAYBE / NO: Pete Rose, Trump, Jesse, Tyson, Kauffman Ultimately, it doesn’t make a lot of sense for Mattel to ride out an option that has any layer of controversy around it. Too many other safer routes that don’t lead to the headaches and commentary that comes with a possible risky decision. ***And I know it’s not Bad Bunny based on the clues. (Unless he did something to upset Kyle’s grandfather when he was only an infant) The thing with Sgt Slaughter, is we just got the two Ultimate's. So what do they do that's somewhat different. GI Joe inspired? Yes I suppose, but surely Mattel will be looking elsewhere and seeing that at the moment there's a few Slaughters just been released by different company's from his GI Joe stint. The only thing I could think of is a two pack with Colonel Mustafa but they literally did those a couple years ago in the Elite line in that gimmick so would it make sense to do it again. Probably not. A Hogan/Slaughter two pack, I could see that but do we need another Hogan? My bad. Only used Slaughter as a way to illustrate those points. Don’t consider him to be in the picture for 2023. |
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Post by Scott! on May 21, 2023 20:44:37 GMT -5
My bad. Only used Slaughter as a way to illustrate those points. Don’t consider him to be in the picture for 2023. Ahh, sorry that's my fault haha. Re-reading it I get the point you were making, I just jumped to the conclusion and then started piecing the thought together. |
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Post by CM Tusk on May 21, 2023 20:46:17 GMT -5
LT has a r*pe of a minor conviction. They aren’t going to make a figure of him, nor should they. Alright, Tusk. Use some context. Ended up a misdemeanor with no jail time. It was consensual and the girl told him she was 19. Legal age for consent in NY, where it occurred, is 17. She was 16. Not excusing him but tell the full story if you’re going to throw that out there. Under the age of consent, so a minor. Statutory r*pe. He said she told him she was 19. It was “consensual” because she was being human trafficked, so not really her consent either. Just because he didn’t get jail time doesn’t mean he wasn’t convicted. Also, a registered sex offender. So I guess keep holding out hope for that LT toy. |
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Post by wholefnshow420 on May 21, 2023 20:51:35 GMT -5
If it's not rodman then It's Ozzy fn Osbourne or possibly Lemmy
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Post by GoCanes84 on May 21, 2023 20:52:55 GMT -5
Alright, Tusk. Use some context. Ended up a misdemeanor with no jail time. It was consensual and the girl told him she was 19. Legal age for consent in NY, where it occurred, is 17. She was 16. Not excusing him but tell the full story if you’re going to throw that out there. Under the age of consent, so a minor. Statutory r*pe. He said she told him she was 19. It was “consensual” because she was being human trafficked, so not really her consent either. Just because he didn’t get jail time doesn’t mean he wasn’t convicted. Also, a registered sex offender. So I guess keep holding out hope for that LT toy. At least you’re disclosing it all now. The word “statutory” is kind of important. And I’ll display my LT toy right next to Chief Jay. Tay and Jay. |
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Post by Rocket_Fuel_Merchant on May 21, 2023 21:40:07 GMT -5
Ok...based on Kyle's comments.... Ali was drafted to go to Vietnam in 1966, that's 57 years ago, which would make his grandfather 39. His grandfather would have been around 18 at the end of WWII. His grandfather would have been PRIME age to witness Ali in his prime and dislike him for refusing to go the Vietnam. So here me out... Ultimate Edition Muhammad Ali - soft goods referee gear - molded boxing trunks underneath. Everlast, white with black waist and side stripes - alternate hands: boxing gloves red, tape wrapped fists of fury, counting 2 and 3 - alternate heads: Younger yelling Ali, normal younger Ali - alternate white boxing shoes - Soft Goods boxing robe with white Everlast with "Muhammad Ali" in red on the back The white/black trunks with red gloves would be the look in the iconic photo from Ali vs Liston 2... Also, that fight was the FIRST time I believe that he wore a robe with Muhammad Ali on it Kyle here. I’ll give a better clue my grandpa is 96. My grandpa knows nothing of wrestling and men like him hated this guy for a controversial reason at the time. If this figure is not San Diego, con, it will be interesting to see what else it would possibly be for. This will have crossover appeal no doubt about it. Personally I would love Lawler Kaufman, 100 times more and it’s not Iron Mike. "Use discount code Kyle, save yourself 10%...make sure you get the MATTEL stands" |
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Post by Scott! on May 21, 2023 21:49:48 GMT -5
Has anyone floated a Rocky Balboa/Sylvester Stalone and Thunderlips/Hulk Hogan suggestion out there yet, cos I'd buy that.
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Post by Rocket_Fuel_Merchant on May 21, 2023 21:51:52 GMT -5
Has anyone floated a Rocky Balboa/Sylvester Stalone and Thunderlips/Hulk Hogan suggestion out there yet, cos I'd buy that. I would buy the crapout of that...at least 2 sets if I could. But I don't see what would make a 96 year old man hate Sly or Hulk for a controversial reason back in the day |
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Post by Scott! on May 21, 2023 21:59:29 GMT -5
Has anyone floated a Rocky Balboa/Sylvester Stalone and Thunderlips/Hulk Hogan suggestion out there yet, cos I'd buy that. I would buy the crap out of that...at least 2 sets if I could. But I don't see what would make a 96 year old man hate Sly or Hulk for a controversial reason back in the day Hmmm, true. Unless he felt that Thunderlips shouldn't have been DQ'd? Maybe he hates Stallones accent? Mr T fan and was pissed at the ending of Rocky 3? We're legit basing our guesses on a random comment, so who actually knows. I guess we'll see once it leaks or gets announced. It's fun to theorise though, haha. |
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Post by NoseBleedcollectibles on May 21, 2023 22:16:20 GMT -5
Butterbean Bart Gunn 2 pack
New ultimate swivel head technology on Bart
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Post by SteveHulk on May 21, 2023 22:35:43 GMT -5
My one and only guess is Ali... he was a very controversial figure back in the day and lot of people hated (or disliked) him. It could be a "general look" Ali figure (like the general look of the SDCC Mr T) - and then we'll get a more specific Wrestlemania UE or 2-pk Elite - and Retro - down the road...
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on May 21, 2023 22:37:22 GMT -5
Going with boxing attire Ali…. I’d put money on it based on a picture I saw.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on May 21, 2023 22:56:48 GMT -5
My one and only guess is Ali... he was a very controversial figure back in the day and lot of people hated (or disliked) him. It could be a "general look" Ali figure (like the general look of the SDCC Mr T) - and then we'll get a more specific Wrestlemania UE or 2-pk Elite - and Retro - down the road... Yeah ref Ali seems like the perfect WM BAF |
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Post by missinglink on May 21, 2023 23:41:55 GMT -5
Going to be snoop dogg and either miz or Shane.
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Post by savedbytheringbell on May 21, 2023 23:53:45 GMT -5
I’d love if the Ali figure would be the start of a boxing line for Mattel, which would also eventually include fictional boxers as well like Rocky / Creed
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