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Post by CM Tusk on Aug 31, 2023 16:15:57 GMT -5
Young Bucks Omega Hangman Matt Hardy* Nemeth Daniels* Jungle Boy Miro(maybe) Mox* Kassidy* Jericho* Has all had some type of misunderstanding, altercation or fight in the little time Punk been there. Yeah,its probably not his fault lol Like 3/4 of these are from the same incident in which all the major parties were at fault and the others just getting involved. Both Hangman and Perry took shots on live tv. But yes, Punk is 100% the only problem.
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Post by finnbalor1 on Aug 31, 2023 17:35:45 GMT -5
Young Bucks Omega Hangman Matt Hardy* Nemeth Daniels* Jungle Boy Miro(maybe) Mox* Kassidy* Jericho* Has all had some type of misunderstanding, altercation or fight in the little time Punk been there. Yeah,its probably not his fault lol Like 3/4 of these are from the same incident in which all the major parties were at fault and the others just getting involved. Both Hangman and Perry took shots on live tv. But yes, Punk is 100% the only problem. Lmao. Where did i ever say he's the only one to blame? I don't get where that comes from every time someone brings up the problems involving Punk. The biggest difference is a lot of the Punk fans(not saying all) can't just admit that his at fault too and its not everybody including the dirt sheets out for his head. Its always that empty headed Hangman, brat Jack or whatever the newest dumb name for the Bucks are this week but yep you're probably right if that's what you need to hear.
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Post by PJ on Aug 31, 2023 18:42:41 GMT -5
The one thing I can't fathom is the amount of revisionist history anti-punk fans have. "Punk has always been a locker room cancer" Because he called out the WWE's over-reliance of part time stars? Because he said fans were sick of Cena (while also having tremendous respect for him)? Because he walked out after they forced him to wrestle injured? How does that differ from 99% of the forum's opinion at the time? Because he had issues with Teddy Hart - a man who is exclusively known for causing issues backstage and doing backflips? The Colt Cabana feud pre-2020 is worth blaming him for, but to think that Punk risked his AEW career to sabotage someone who hadn't been on TV in any meaningful capacity ever and someone who no one would bat an eye towards if he was ghosted by Tony like Marko, Janela, et all... is asinine. "AEW never has issues when Punk isn't around" The first two years of the company were centered around the backstage rift between cody and the elite. The women's division has been a political mess since Britt Baker's reign. Various AEW wrestlers have had fights backstage over tweets. Punk's issues get the most attention and clickbait, but he's far from the source of all conflict. We live in an age where anyone can make a quick buck if they drum up the most attention for their wrestling page. Nobody cares about facts anymore. Much like the news, wrestling dirt sheets are more focused on being the "first" and the "loudest" rather than correct. To be fair I’ve said he was a locker room cancer all the way back in his wwe days. And no I am not an Anti-Punk fan. I’ve always thought he was better than average in his profession. (Best in the world though I’ve never thought that) but while I like CM Punk the performer I’ve never cared for the man outside of the ring. And that’s based off interviews I seen and comments he’s made outside of wrestling.
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Post by kinnikuman on Aug 31, 2023 19:08:45 GMT -5
Why are people so protective of Punk? NO ONE is bashing his wrestling skills or his mic skills ... you know, the only things that matter in wrestling. People are bashing Punk, the human ... who not one of his supporters know. It's like he's a family member to them, lol.
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Post by sonstuds on Aug 31, 2023 19:22:20 GMT -5
I visit a few different wrestling message boards and the last year has made me feel like I'm on my own island being both a Punk and Young Bucks fan lol
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Post by finnbalor1 on Aug 31, 2023 19:50:35 GMT -5
I visit a few different wrestling message boards and the last year has made me feel like I'm on my own island being both a Punk and Young Bucks fan lol You're a Rush fan,so that makes up for all your shortcomings lol. Jk
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Post by kinnikuman on Aug 31, 2023 22:47:27 GMT -5
I have no issues with Punk, the wrestler, and love the Bucks so I guess I'm like the other tribe in Lost.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Sept 1, 2023 4:41:32 GMT -5
This show deserves continued praise. It cannot be understated how signifcant the event was. It will to down as one of the most important shows in wrestling history.
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Post by finnbalor1 on Sept 1, 2023 8:18:22 GMT -5
This show deserves continued praise. It cannot be understated how signifcant the event was. It will to down as one of the most important shows in wrestling history. Both All Ins has gotta be considered by most two of the biggest and successful shows outside of WWE in history of the business and it was done all between a 5 year period
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Post by Angusdacat on Sept 1, 2023 14:13:50 GMT -5
The one thing I can't fathom is the amount of revisionist history anti-punk fans have. "Punk has always been a locker room cancer" Because he called out the WWE's over-reliance of part time stars? Because he said fans were sick of Cena (while also having tremendous respect for him)? Because he walked out after they forced him to wrestle injured? How does that differ from 99% of the forum's opinion at the time? Because he had issues with Teddy Hart - a man who is exclusively known for causing issues backstage and doing backflips? The Colt Cabana feud pre-2020 is worth blaming him for, but to think that Punk risked his AEW career to sabotage someone who hadn't been on TV in any meaningful capacity ever and someone who no one would bat an eye towards if he was ghosted by Tony like Marko, Janela, et all... is asinine. "AEW never has issues when Punk isn't around" The first two years of the company were centered around the backstage rift between cody and the elite. The women's division has been a political mess since Britt Baker's reign. Various AEW wrestlers have had fights backstage over tweets. Punk's issues get the most attention and clickbait, but he's far from the source of all conflict. We live in an age where anyone can make a quick buck if they drum up the most attention for their wrestling page. Nobody cares about facts anymore. Much like the news, wrestling dirt sheets are more focused on being the "first" and the "loudest" rather than correct. To be fair I’ve said he was a locker room cancer all the way back in his wwe days. And no I am not an Anti-Punk fan. I’ve always thought he was better than average in his profession. (Best in the world though I’ve never thought that) but while I like CM Punk the performer I’ve never cared for the man outside of the ring. And that’s based off interviews I seen and comments he’s made outside of wrestling. Just to be clear, the post wasn't targeted at any individual. I also believe Punk was 100% in the wrong for the All Out scrum. I'm just annoyed by the online bandwagoning of people suddenly trying to make patterns about someone most had no issue with beforehand to support a new narrative.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Sept 1, 2023 16:05:25 GMT -5
The number of different accounts is hilarious. My favorite so far is the current account where Cancer Man lunges at TK, but gets held back whilst repeatedly yelling ‘I quit! I quit! I quit!’. Supposedly Schmosby was right there AND there’s supposedly footage. If any of this is true what is the point of an investigation?
If there is footage (which I won’t believe that there is until we see it) they should book BM Phil in an I quit match against Schmosby and play the footage of him hysterically screaming ‘I quit’ at TK. Then Schmosby can claim ownership of the real world championship. Not everyone will agree, but since this is such a clusterf*ck the best thing that they can do is try to turn some of this into an angle.
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Post by sonstuds on Sept 1, 2023 19:02:03 GMT -5
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Post by finnbalor1 on Sept 1, 2023 19:20:40 GMT -5
Lawyerhausen! D@mn,now I need a Danhausen and Smart Mark team up because of this
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Sept 14, 2023 8:49:55 GMT -5
72,265 still impressive but not as impressive as before
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on Sept 14, 2023 9:58:49 GMT -5
72,265 Is way better than I thought they’d do. It’s damn impressive, that’s like a year of combined Dynamite attendance. It’s a shame that it was overshadowed by the drama.
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Post by McBlake on Sept 14, 2023 10:17:00 GMT -5
Definitely still impressive and a huge success of an event. I sure hope no one was stupid enough to get the first arbitrary number tattooed on thier body though. Oh wait...
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Sept 15, 2023 6:19:44 GMT -5
Thing is though, say that the (non-live) AEW shows on ITV, draw 70-80 000 UK viewers a week - there's your 'All In' 72, 265 attendance. Not really that impressive - especially considering the non-UK attendees, and tickets as low as £26. Put 'Mania in Wembley and that's getting smashed. Nothing about 'All In' felt that important, and basically the occasion was too big for the company, IYAM. There was nothing on that show - and nothing currently going on in the company, that neither required, nor matched up to an event of that supposed magnitude. Just like 'Clash at the Castle', it was a nice little treat/thankyou for the UK fans... but nothing more than that. At least they can stop lying about the attendance on tv now. Also, it turns out, that muppet Khan was trying to incorporate employees, media - and whoever else didn't enter through the turnstiles, into the attendance figure. Definitely still impressive and a huge success of an event. I sure hope no one was stupid enough to get the first arbitrary number tattooed on thier body though. Oh wait... Someone actually did that?
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Sept 15, 2023 7:32:10 GMT -5
Thing is though, say that the (non-live) AEW shows on ITV, draw 70-80 000 UK viewers a week - there's your 'All In' 72, 265 attendance. Not really that impressive - especially considering the non-UK attendees, and tickets as low as £26. Put 'Mania in Wembley and that's getting smashed. Nothing about 'All In' felt that important, and basically the occasion was too big for the company, IYAM. There was nothing on that show - and nothing currently going on in the company, that neither required, nor matched up to an event of that supposed magnitude. Just like 'Clash at the Castle', it was a nice little treat/thankyou for the UK fans... but nothing more than that. At least they can stop lying about the attendance on tv now. Also, it turns out, that muppet Khan was trying to incorporate employees, media - and whoever else didn't enter through the turnstiles, into the attendance figure. Definitely still impressive and a huge success of an event. I sure hope no one was stupid enough to get the first arbitrary number tattooed on thier body though. Oh wait... Someone actually did that? Your real opinion is that Tony bought nearly half the house. So share it. More people like you think that. So don't be afraid to say it.
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Post by Triple S on Sept 15, 2023 10:40:38 GMT -5
I hate Tony Khan, feel AEW just isn’t there still… but who cares about attendance? They drew a lot of people. Do records really matter at the end of the day?
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Post by McBlake on Sept 15, 2023 12:19:19 GMT -5
Thing is though, say that the (non-live) AEW shows on ITV, draw 70-80 000 UK viewers a week - there's your 'All In' 72, 265 attendance. Not really that impressive - especially considering the non-UK attendees, and tickets as low as £26. Put 'Mania in Wembley and that's getting smashed. Nothing about 'All In' felt that important, and basically the occasion was too big for the company, IYAM. There was nothing on that show - and nothing currently going on in the company, that neither required, nor matched up to an event of that supposed magnitude. Just like 'Clash at the Castle', it was a nice little treat/thankyou for the UK fans... but nothing more than that. At least they can stop lying about the attendance on tv now. Also, it turns out, that muppet Khan was trying to incorporate employees, media - and whoever else didn't enter through the turnstiles, into the attendance figure. Definitely still impressive and a huge success of an event. I sure hope no one was stupid enough to get the first arbitrary number tattooed on thier body though. Oh wait... Someone actually did that? Not just someone, Will Ospreay 😅
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