darkprophet
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Post by darkprophet on Jul 31, 2024 8:55:44 GMT -5
Aren’t PowerTown’s $50? If they can swing that, this line should be able to too, I’d think/hope. I’m not the one who threw out 80. I was responding to the person who did. I don’t think he’ll charge that much but I can admit that given what he charges for retros, whatever percentage more these cost to make, I can envision him charging something proportional ie if they cost twice as much to make he’ll charge twice as much I’m certainly not “blaming you,” I know we’re all just thinking out loud. I could see there being a higher price point too, for the same reasons you mentioned. I just think and hope that PowerTown’s success and quality can guide other independent wrestling figure companies with similar form factors to consider similar prices. |
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Post by micco on Jul 31, 2024 20:47:07 GMT -5
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Post by Ruby Fusion on Aug 1, 2024 4:49:32 GMT -5
I’m not the one who threw out 80. I was responding to the person who did. I don’t think he’ll charge that much but I can admit that given what he charges for retros, whatever percentage more these cost to make, I can envision him charging something proportional ie if they cost twice as much to make he’ll charge twice as much I’m certainly not “blaming you,” I know we’re all just thinking out loud. I could see there being a higher price point too, for the same reasons you mentioned. I just think and hope that PowerTown’s success and quality can guide other independent wrestling figure companies with similar form factors to consider similar prices. Well, Powertown is a REAL toycompany. ZST isn't. |
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darkprophet
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Post by darkprophet on Aug 1, 2024 10:08:00 GMT -5
I’m certainly not “blaming you,” I know we’re all just thinking out loud. I could see there being a higher price point too, for the same reasons you mentioned. I just think and hope that PowerTown’s success and quality can guide other independent wrestling figure companies with similar form factors to consider similar prices. Well, Powertown is a REAL toycompany. ZST isn't. I don’t have a “dog in this race,” have yet to buy from either company, but from where I’m sitting, both seem pretty legit and consistent alternatives to Mattel and Jazzwares. What would make ZST less “REAL?” The wait times? Owner’s lack of tact? Still looks like solid product overall to me. Again, never owned any yet. Just curious. |
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@Chair.Shot
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Aug 1, 2024 11:11:41 GMT -5
Well, Powertown is a REAL toycompany. ZST isn't. I don’t have a “dog in this race,” have yet to buy from either company, but from where I’m sitting, both seem pretty legit and consistent alternatives to Mattel and Jazzwares. What would make ZST less “REAL?” The wait times? Owner’s lack of tact? Still looks like solid product overall to me. Again, never owned any yet. Just curious. They both have pros and cons. Both are “real” in the legal sense. PowerTown aka Relativity Worldwide comes across as far more traditional and professional. They are also a bit behind the times and not as “with it” in terms of social media and marketing presence. However, they are pretty open about who is working for them, they have proven they are capable of delivering a high quality product, and they seem to have a good amount of funding. Right now their biggest flaw in my opinion is their lack of communication about their timelines. ZST delivers quality products other than a few hiccups. He is pretty good at guerilla marketing and creating demand. But he very much makes the business about himself: his gimmick name, his hands overseeing everything, etc. There are occasional glimpses from behind the scenes but there is also a lot of mystery surrounding his company at times. Not a lot of discussion about who is working on what, unsubstantiated rumors about his actual financial situation, and the poor communication involving timelines/deadlines/status updates. His well documented character flaws and attitude don’t help the image that he is not running a serious company but you can say the same about Elon Musk. Josh is eccentric to say the least but he is also very creative and very hard working. |
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Post by VintageFigs1 on Aug 1, 2024 12:08:58 GMT -5
I’m certainly not “blaming you,” I know we’re all just thinking out loud. I could see there being a higher price point too, for the same reasons you mentioned. I just think and hope that PowerTown’s success and quality can guide other independent wrestling figure companies with similar form factors to consider similar prices. Well, Powertown is a REAL toycompany. ZST isn't. How so? |
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Post by CM Tusk on Aug 1, 2024 12:45:10 GMT -5
Feels like that glitter is going to end up a mess over time. Could be wrong.
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Post by captncharisma19 on Aug 1, 2024 13:45:52 GMT -5
Feels like that glitter is going to end up a mess over time. Could be wrong. the Jazwares ROH have it, there is a clear coat over the paint to protect the glitter (on the AEW figs) |
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Post by Ruby Fusion on Aug 1, 2024 15:03:54 GMT -5
Well, Powertown is a REAL toycompany. ZST isn't. I don’t have a “dog in this race,” have yet to buy from either company, but from where I’m sitting, both seem pretty legit and consistent alternatives to Mattel and Jazzwares. What would make ZST less “REAL?” The wait times? Owner’s lack of tact? Still looks like solid product overall to me. Again, never owned any yet. Just curious. Well, Powertown is a REAL toycompany. ZST isn't. How so? ZST is a toyshop that happens to produce 2 toylines as well. Powertown is a toycompany in the true sense with a direct link to Remco; so decades of know-how and most probably more links in the toyworld. |
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Post by britishbrickfan on Aug 1, 2024 15:18:51 GMT -5
I don’t have a “dog in this race,” have yet to buy from either company, but from where I’m sitting, both seem pretty legit and consistent alternatives to Mattel and Jazzwares. What would make ZST less “REAL?” The wait times? Owner’s lack of tact? Still looks like solid product overall to me. Again, never owned any yet. Just curious. ZST is a toyshop that happens to produce 2 toylines as well. Powertown is a toycompany in the true sense with a direct link to Remco; so decades of know-how and most probably more links in the toyworld. I understand where you're coming from in the difference between ZST and PowerTown
I personally wouldn't even call ZST a "toy shop" though, he was when he had a small online website offering some vintage collectibles but even then, he wasn't exactly stocking and selling large quantities of multiple toy lines/brands like sites like Action Figure Cellar for example
I agree with your definition of PowerTown, and wouldn't be surprised if some retailers started offering PowerTown figures in their stores down the line, companies like Forbidden Planet for example, or maybe becoming available through the traders who operate at conventions too
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Post by mcfclee on Aug 1, 2024 18:01:23 GMT -5
I’d pay good money for that double J. If there’s any chance of it being available anytime soon sign me up.
I’ve been vocal about the annoying wait times and constant missed deadlines, but that is a dream figure for me. It’s absolutely beautiful.
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Post by micco on Aug 2, 2024 12:16:29 GMT -5
I don’t have a “dog in this race,” have yet to buy from either company, but from where I’m sitting, both seem pretty legit and consistent alternatives to Mattel and Jazzwares. What would make ZST less “REAL?” The wait times? Owner’s lack of tact? Still looks like solid product overall to me. Again, never owned any yet. Just curious. ZST is a toyshop that happens to produce 2 toylines as well. Powertown is a toycompany in the true sense with a direct link to Remco; so decades of know-how and most probably more links in the toyworld. If powertown (who also just has two toy lines) were so much more real, you’d think they wouldn’t have an equally long turn around time. Also, their “ties to remco” are a former employee who came out of retirement and hadn’t been in the game for years. Zst has ties to hasbro in the same way powertown has ties to remco. It looks like your only rationale that hasn’t been refuted is that powertown can offer high quality merchandise for a lower retail price than what we assume zst will sell their comparable product for. However, if there profit margins are smaller then that wouldn’t make them any more official of a business. It would just make them a less profitable one. We don’t know the margins for either but zombie has survived longer than a lot of businesses and he seems content with his earnings. Isn’t longevity and profitability really the best measure of how a business is doing? |
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Post by captncharisma19 on Aug 2, 2024 12:34:32 GMT -5
Go bash powertown in the powertown boards, this is for bashing zombie only! Both companies are great and give us things where Mattel/WWE etc have failed
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Sept 3, 2024 13:22:07 GMT -5
Once again coming here to see if I've missed any tidbits of news or anything. We've been waiting what, 3 years? Mad to think of it, very much interested still in the Pillman but there's virtually no way this can touch expectations
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Post by darkprophet on Sept 3, 2024 13:52:45 GMT -5
Once again coming here to see if I've missed any tidbits of news or anything. We've been waiting what, 3 years? Mad to think of it, very much interested still in the Pillman but there's virtually no way this can touch expectations Ditto, but replace Pillman with Bundy for me. |
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Sept 4, 2024 15:57:36 GMT -5
Once again coming here to see if I've missed any tidbits of news or anything. We've been waiting what, 3 years? Mad to think of it, very much interested still in the Pillman but there's virtually no way this can touch expectations Pillman back with Mattel now, he’s going to have to go some way to justify more than double the price for the privilege of having him come with a Gun accessory. |
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Sept 5, 2024 2:34:09 GMT -5
Once again coming here to see if I've missed any tidbits of news or anything. We've been waiting what, 3 years? Mad to think of it, very much interested still in the Pillman but there's virtually no way this can touch expectations Pillman back with Mattel now, he’s going to have to go some way to justify more than double the price for the privilege of having him come with a Gun accessory. Licensed shirt and better detailing is about all I can think of…but he better get on that sooner rather than later. Mattel beating him to the punch would absolutely hurt sales. |
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Post by elrey82 on Nov 4, 2024 13:55:05 GMT -5
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Nov 4, 2024 14:01:23 GMT -5
Anyone know if this is a genuine attire and if so, where/when he wore it? I know he wore that ‘style’ of gear in WWF but don’t recall that colour scheme and pattern? If it’s ring accurate and not stupid money then I might order it, the idea of Mattel getting him back and doing the ultimate for $25 though is a factor. |
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Post by mrscream on Nov 4, 2024 14:23:23 GMT -5
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