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Post by cableV on May 23, 2024 15:55:13 GMT -5
I'm up to date through Series 8, which was plentiful in my area. A little too plentiful with that red Hogan, but I digress. Oddly enough, one of my stores got a case of Series 5 (Rude wave) today. As long as my stores can sell/clearance the Hogans, I'm confident I will be able to find Ali, Bulldog & Kane when they start shipping to my stores.
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Post by Zincdust on May 23, 2024 18:16:39 GMT -5
where is everyone at, like who needs what superstars wise? I have everyone in the first three waves. I have Savage and Rock, but have never seen Typhoon or Mr. T. I have Quake and Rude, but have never seen Perfect or Bigelow. I have Piper and Hogan, but have never seen Albano or Vader. I have Hogan, Andre and Doink, but none of the ones after that wave.
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Post by wrestlingcollector80 on May 23, 2024 19:23:34 GMT -5
where is everyone at, like who needs what superstars wise? I have everyone in the first three waves. I have Savage and Rock, but have never seen Typhoon or Mr. T. I have Quake and Rude, but have never seen Perfect or Bigelow. I have Piper and Hogan, but have never seen Albano or Vader. I have Hogan, Andre and Doink, but none of the ones after that wave. The closest Walmart to me has typhoon right now, the next Walmart has multiple capt Lou’s and Vaders. Just weird how they flood some Walmarts with certain ones and others with none.
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Post by Flair Forever on May 23, 2024 21:59:21 GMT -5
Ugh....
Checked my local Walmart tonight near closing. Same 10-12 Red Hogans on the shelf that have been there for a month or so....
Lots of pallets.... so I scoped them out; lots of Barbie, Monster High, Jurassic Park.... and some WWE Superstars (?)....
I was looking for Monday Night Wars, but out of curiosity I peeked at the WWE Superstars boxes (there were at least 2 cases)... thinking maybe it'd at least be the newer set? With Kane/Bulldog/Ali?
Nope, MORE RED PANTS HOGANS. Yes, instead of getting any Elites (which have been out-of-stock for months), instead of any Monday Night Wars (haven't had any in months and I've yet to see Series 2)..... they got more of what they already have in stock.
Folks, they aren't using any sort of inventory system to flag needs/orders. They're sending this stuff randomly to random locations. No one will convince me otherwise.
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Post by thebigzakbowski on May 25, 2024 12:19:52 GMT -5
Went to Walmart this morning I actually saw a new Superstars for the first time and I don't know how long they had two of the Hogan that comes with Andre and doink but no Andre or doink the Clown at least my Walmart finally got something new
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Post by loosecannon on May 25, 2024 14:30:30 GMT -5
Couldn’t believe this when I saw it . We got new figs this week. They FINALLY put out series 5: Rock, Savage and making a 1st time appearance , Earthquake and Rick Rude!
What are we a year and a half later ?
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Post by nomorexclusives on May 26, 2024 8:23:00 GMT -5
Ugh.... Checked my local Walmart tonight near closing. Same 10-12 Red Hogans on the shelf that have been there for a month or so.... Lots of pallets.... so I scoped them out; lots of Barbie, Monster High, Jurassic Park.... and some WWE Superstars (?).... I was looking for Monday Night Wars, but out of curiosity I peeked at the WWE Superstars boxes (there were at least 2 cases)... thinking maybe it'd at least be the newer set? With Kane/Bulldog/Ali? Nope, MORE RED PANTS HOGANS. Yes, instead of getting any Elites (which have been out-of-stock for months), instead of any Monday Night Wars (haven't had any in months and I've yet to see Series 2)..... they got more of what they already have in stock. Folks, they aren't using any sort of inventory system to flag needs/orders. They're sending this stuff randomly to random locations. No one will convince me otherwise. July Recap of last year. Between december and early july stores got s3. This year. Since december we have gotten series 8. As i found out walmart does inventory once a year in july. So expect series 9 in july. Followed by s10 a month later, followed by s11 and 12 in sept and oct. Then the cycle repeats itself in december. Steve already mentioned that thw release dates for several other series are the same as last year in the q&a section. Save your money and wait for the summer onslaught. My guess also is that s9 will be treated like s4 and mass produced mainly due to the fact that they still didnt have the right numbers to know how many to make. Why? BECAUSE they never did preorders on these so they had no way to gauge demand. I expect a lot of kanes warming pegs. Bulldog and ali will sell out. The only question now becomes if hulk hogan will once again be shown at sdcc or if mattel finally got the message that we can easily customize him and dont need anymore. Either way i will wait for all of these to show up on clearance online. Not running around for these anymore. There is no point to it. They could at the very least put out a shipper for each new release like target does for legends but its obvious wm no longer cares about these. All the lone pegs at walmart are about to be bare for a long time as soon as hogan is clearanced out. If they dont clearance them out than nothing will be put out and if nothing is put out.... well we see what happened with the lady jaye gijoe figures. Very few new classifieds being put out. Hopefully walmart is not stubborn and puts those hogans on sale in a month.
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Post by Flair Forever on May 26, 2024 8:31:14 GMT -5
Ugh.... Checked my local Walmart tonight near closing. Same 10-12 Red Hogans on the shelf that have been there for a month or so.... Lots of pallets.... so I scoped them out; lots of Barbie, Monster High, Jurassic Park.... and some WWE Superstars (?).... I was looking for Monday Night Wars, but out of curiosity I peeked at the WWE Superstars boxes (there were at least 2 cases)... thinking maybe it'd at least be the newer set? With Kane/Bulldog/Ali? Nope, MORE RED PANTS HOGANS. Yes, instead of getting any Elites (which have been out-of-stock for months), instead of any Monday Night Wars (haven't had any in months and I've yet to see Series 2)..... they got more of what they already have in stock. Folks, they aren't using any sort of inventory system to flag needs/orders. They're sending this stuff randomly to random locations. No one will convince me otherwise. July Recap of last year. Between december and early july stores got s3. This year. Since december we have gotten series 8. As i found out walmart does inventory once a year in july. So expect series 9 in july. Followed by s10 a month later, followed by s11 and 12 in sept and oct. Then the cycle repeats itself in december. Steve already mentioned that thw release dates for several other series are the same as last year in the q&a section. Save your money and wait for the summer onslaught. My guess also is that s9 will be treated like s4 and mass produced mainly due to the fact that they still didnt have the right numbers to know how many to make. Why? BECAUSE they never did preorders on these so they had no way to gauge demand. I expect a lot of kanes warming pegs. Bulldog and ali will sell out. The only question now becomes if hulk hogan will once again be shown at sdcc or if mattel finally got the message that we can easily customize him and dont need anymore. Either way i will wait for all of these to show up on clearance online. Not running around for these anymore. There is no point to it. They could at the very least put out a shipper for each new release like target does for legends but its obvious wm no longer cares about these. All the lone pegs at walmart are about to be bare for a long time as soon as hogan is clearanced out. If they dont clearance them out than nothing will be put out and if nothing is put out.... well we see what happened with the lady jaye gijoe figures. Very few new classifieds being put out. Hopefully walmart is not stubborn and puts those hogans on sale in a month. I'm still dumbfounded at the lack of Elites; We saw E106 in what, January/February? It's now almost June and I haven't seen a single Elite at any of my five stores since E106! Only a few "Top Picks" and the little bit of Monday Night Wars Series 1 (I have yet to see any of Series 2). How can they go 4-5 months without getting any Elites? Doesn't SOMEONE (Mattel OR Walmart) get sales metrics and say "hey, wait a minute, we're hardly selling any of these?" Like you, I'm not terribly worried about the Superstars.... that Series doesn't seem essential to me? If they stock them, I'll buy them - if they don't, I won't. But I'm really frustrated that they are going 4-5 months between shipments of Elite figures (then skipping series because they can't catch up).
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Post by nomorexclusives on May 26, 2024 8:49:39 GMT -5
July Recap of last year. Between december and early july stores got s3. This year. Since december we have gotten series 8. As i found out walmart does inventory once a year in july. So expect series 9 in july. Followed by s10 a month later, followed by s11 and 12 in sept and oct. Then the cycle repeats itself in december. Steve already mentioned that thw release dates for several other series are the same as last year in the q&a section. Save your money and wait for the summer onslaught. My guess also is that s9 will be treated like s4 and mass produced mainly due to the fact that they still didnt have the right numbers to know how many to make. Why? BECAUSE they never did preorders on these so they had no way to gauge demand. I expect a lot of kanes warming pegs. Bulldog and ali will sell out. The only question now becomes if hulk hogan will once again be shown at sdcc or if mattel finally got the message that we can easily customize him and dont need anymore. Either way i will wait for all of these to show up on clearance online. Not running around for these anymore. There is no point to it. They could at the very least put out a shipper for each new release like target does for legends but its obvious wm no longer cares about these. All the lone pegs at walmart are about to be bare for a long time as soon as hogan is clearanced out. If they dont clearance them out than nothing will be put out and if nothing is put out.... well we see what happened with the lady jaye gijoe figures. Very few new classifieds being put out. Hopefully walmart is not stubborn and puts those hogans on sale in a month. I'm still dumbfounded at the lack of Elites; We saw E106 in what, January/February? It's now almost June and I haven't seen a single Elite at any of my five stores since E106! Only a few "Top Picks" and the little bit of Monday Night Wars Series 1 (I have yet to see any of Series 2). How can they go 4-5 months without getting any Elites? Doesn't SOMEONE (Mattel OR Walmart) get sales metrics and say "hey, wait a minute, we're hardly selling any of these?" Like you, I'm not terribly worried about the Superstars.... that Series doesn't seem essential to me? If they stock them, I'll buy them - if they don't, I won't. But I'm really frustrated that they are going 4-5 months between shipments of Elite figures (then skipping series because they can't catch up). br]And yeah flair they dont know what to send and in what quantities. Again this is easily solved if they had a mid-level executive position keeping track of the numbers to pass on to regionals. By only doing inventory once a year all the pressure is put on temp employees who count by hand in-store what is available. Hopefully they dont make mistakes!!!! If only wm was able to relay in real time with a point of sale system THAT FUNCTIONED and didnt block the sales history of each item (not accessible to employees) THAN a stock room manager could make daily orders at night based on what sold and "hot items". If you look at target someone is always checking with their inventory guns if something can be replenished when they see empty pegs. Wm employees cant do that since their inventory doesnt match up with what it says is available. Wm instead has 2 types of toy section employees. The ones that put back all the unsold/returned/found in other parts of the store toys and the employees who simply unload entire pallets and "try to" put out whatever is on there. I constantly laugh out loud when i see them trying to out out 2 boxes of tmnt when the pegs are full. Then they just throw them on top. You have all seen them do this. There is no one employee that keeps regular tabs on what sells. Wm axed all those positions and relying on ai (faulty inventory) amd yearly human intervention. I mean seriously i dont know another store that only does inventory once a year. Its amateur hour at walmart. Ridiculous. Wm should not be in the toy business. The joke has lasted too long. They are basically dollar tree with grocery items. We have to realize that and pressure mattel to wake up from this nightmare. Wm is not about quality. Only quantity. As collectors we deserve more as we are in many cases single handedly keeping their toy business afloat. If you took out barbies, hot wheels and some other key items their toy sales would implode. There are not enough moms out there buying 20 dollar overpriced plush toys for their kids.... Heres hoping sdcc will display mattels new wwe stars line. I heard they could look like these. Just different packaging and only available on creations... if not than walmart has complete control of mattel somehow. Hard to believe they couldnt pull out of the contract unless it was for a specific time period. 3 years? If so 3 years is almost over... Yeah i lost my interest in these like so many others. Too many hurdles to jump through to get them. What also bothers me is that so few of us here are actual collectors. I have only seen a few collection photos. Mainly from hayabusa and cable and myself. That tells me 90% of everyone in this thread is just a reseller keeping them in package. I dont feel i fit in as i open all my toys to display them. I only keep my autographed figures from wrestlemania carded. So sad to see what happened to this hobby as it is just about condition, grade and rarity. That is not what will keep this line going. Without real interest in the figures, once the values of these things come down (once resellers learn they are overproduced) they will all abandon these. Oh wait that is exactly what is happening now. Yeah open these things up guys. When you realize that papa shango doesnt stand up that well and many figures are lacking accessories compared to the previous motuwwe line and more expensive, maybe then we can start to get actual changes made for these things instead of watching bidenflation raise the prices of these with less bang for the buck. Just a few items that should concern us all (motuwwe were 15.99 and came with shields, shoulder pads, armor, capes, and lots of extras). Compare that to these. We dont hear about these things because so few of us have ever even opened up the little white bags with extra hands to realize there isnt much else there besides a few boots in some cases. Hogan might sell if he had other singlets in that bag... The elites. I didnt know wm still carries those... Mnw have only replenished once and they appear to be the same figures at every store. Hogan/hall and forgot the last 2. Nothing else from s1 ever came back out. How does mattel expect us to collect that line if they only get put out once. Add to the list of lines that should not be at walmart. Mnw should be on ringside if anything. Def not at walmart though. There arent enough of us interested in them. Just keeping it real. To get changes we have to be honest about what we see. The biggest problem now is the single pegs at walmart. You cant even put out 2 cases on it (if there was no pegwarmers to begin with).
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Post by cableV on May 26, 2024 9:12:41 GMT -5
I'm still dumbfounded at the lack of Elites; We saw E106 in what, January/February? It's now almost June and I haven't seen a single Elite at any of my five stores since E106! Only a few "Top Picks" and the little bit of Monday Night Wars Series 1 (I have yet to see any of Series 2). How can they go 4-5 months without getting any Elites? Doesn't SOMEONE (Mattel OR Walmart) get sales metrics and say "hey, wait a minute, we're hardly selling any of these?" Like you, I'm not terribly worried about the Superstars.... that Series doesn't seem essential to me? If they stock them, I'll buy them - if they don't, I won't. But I'm really frustrated that they are going 4-5 months between shipments of Elite figures (then skipping series because they can't catch up). It strange because Walmart.com has been doing a great job with Elites. 108, 109 & the SummerSlam wave have been easy to get on there for $20-$22, but nothing in stores for months. I wish Walmart.com would stock the SuperStars figures as well as they have the most recent Elite figures.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on May 26, 2024 9:51:24 GMT -5
The legends ring with cage is $27.99 this week. Works great for Superstars.
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Post by Flair Forever on May 26, 2024 10:47:37 GMT -5
I'm still dumbfounded at the lack of Elites; We saw E106 in what, January/February? It's now almost June and I haven't seen a single Elite at any of my five stores since E106! Only a few "Top Picks" and the little bit of Monday Night Wars Series 1 (I have yet to see any of Series 2). How can they go 4-5 months without getting any Elites? Doesn't SOMEONE (Mattel OR Walmart) get sales metrics and say "hey, wait a minute, we're hardly selling any of these?" Like you, I'm not terribly worried about the Superstars.... that Series doesn't seem essential to me? If they stock them, I'll buy them - if they don't, I won't. But I'm really frustrated that they are going 4-5 months between shipments of Elite figures (then skipping series because they can't catch up). br]And yeah flair they dont know what to send and in what quantities. Again this is easily solved if they had a mid-level executive position keeping track of the numbers to pass on to regionals. By only doing inventory once a year all the pressure is put on temp employees who count by hand in-store what is available. Hopefully they dont make mistakes!!!! If only wm was able to relay in real time with a point of sale system THAT FUNCTIONED and didnt block the sales history of each item (not accessible to employees) THAN a stock room manager could make daily orders at night based on what sold and "hot items". If you look at target someone is always checking with their inventory guns if something can be replenished when they see empty pegs. Wm employees cant do that since their inventory doesnt match up with what it says is available. Wm instead has 2 types of toy section employees. The ones that put back all the unsold/returned/found in other parts of the store toys and the employees who simply unload entire pallets and "try to" put out whatever is on there. I constantly laugh out loud when i see them trying to out out 2 boxes of tmnt when the pegs are full. Then they just throw them on top. You have all seen them do this. There is no one employee that keeps regular tabs on what sells. Wm axed all those positions and relying on ai (faulty inventory) amd yearly human intervention. I mean seriously i dont know another store that only does inventory once a year. Its amateur hour at walmart. Ridiculous. Wm should not be in the toy business. The joke has lasted too long. They are basically dollar tree with grocery items. We have to realize that and pressure mattel to wake up from this nightmare. Wm is not about quality. Only quantity. As collectors we deserve more as we are in many cases single handedly keeping their toy business afloat. If you took out barbies, hot wheels and some other key items their toy sales would implode. There are not enough moms out there buying 20 dollar overpriced plush toys for their kids.... Heres hoping sdcc will display mattels new wwe stars line. I heard they could look like these. Just different packaging and only available on creations... if not than walmart has complete control of mattel somehow. Hard to believe they couldnt pull out of the contract unless it was for a specific time period. 3 years? If so 3 years is almost over... Yeah i lost my interest in these like so many others. Too many hurdles to jump through to get them. What also bothers me is that so few of us here are actual collectors. I have only seen a few collection photos. Mainly from hayabusa and cable and myself. That tells me 90% of everyone in this thread is just a reseller keeping them in package. I dont feel i fit in as i open all my toys to display them. I only keep my autographed figures from wrestlemania carded. So sad to see what happened to this hobby as it is just about condition, grade and rarity. That is not what will keep this line going. Without real interest in the figures, once the values of these things come down (once resellers learn they are overproduced) they will all abandon these. Oh wait that is exactly what is happening now. Yeah open these things up guys. When you realize that papa shango doesnt stand up that well and many figures are lacking accessories compared to the previous motuwwe line and more expensive, maybe then we can start to get actual changes made for these things instead of watching bidenflation raise the prices of these with less bang for the buck. Just a few items that should concern us all (motuwwe were 15.99 and came with shields, shoulder pads, armor, capes, and lots of extras). Compare that to these. We dont hear about these things because so few of us have ever even opened up the little white bags with extra hands to realize there isnt much else there besides a few boots in some cases. Hogan might sell if he had other singlets in that bag... The elites. I didnt know wm still carries those... Mnw have only replenished once and they appear to be the same figures at every store. Hogan/hall and forgot the last 2. Nothing else from s1 ever came back out. How does mattel expect us to collect that line if they only get put out once. Add to the list of lines that should not be at walmart. Mnw should be on ringside if anything. Def not at walmart though. There arent enough of us interested in them. Just keeping it real. To get changes we have to be honest about what we see. The biggest problem now is the single pegs at walmart. You cant even put out 2 cases on it (if there was no pegwarmers to begin with). I no longer believe that Walmart is stocking ANY toys based on inventory numbers. I've seen identical pallets at multiple Walmarts that include Monsters High, Barbie, Jurassic World, and Hot Wheels (no WWE). I've seen stores with only WWE Basics stocked - and they get in MORE WWE BASICS. But never Elites. They just put together pallets of popular toys and send a case of everything to the larger stores. Its up to the staff to find a spot to put them (often up on top of the racks). It doesn't matter if they already have it or if they are completely out. I've seen so many things that don't make any sense during this last three weeks searching for MNW2. It's really been eye-opening - they have no system. They're just sending stuff out at random and completely ignoring other items (such as Main Line Elites and Monday Night Wars). Nobody is at the wheel. I understand they are the world's largest retailer and Mattel has to do business with them.... but I truly wish they wouldn't offer them IN-STORE exclusives when Walmart has proven that they aren't going to stock them. One case-per-store (or ZERO) simply isn't enough for these sought-after collectible items. Walmart In-Store exclusives NEED to have an alternative way to obtain, either through Mattel Creations, Ringside Collectibles, or Walmart's own website (IF they somehow guaranteed delivery). I am a collector - I have yet to sell a single figure - and I'm becoming beyond frustrated with this hobby. They are making it increasingly difficult for me to spend my money with them.
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Post by thebigzakbowski on May 26, 2024 16:14:44 GMT -5
A friend of mine found earthquake and rude for me. First new figures in over a year for me in this line
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Post by thebigzakbowski on May 27, 2024 22:08:09 GMT -5
At my local Walmart tonight like 7 new hogan's.......and one doing and one andre! Finally they're mine!
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Post by nomorexclusives on May 28, 2024 19:08:27 GMT -5
br]And yeah flair they dont know what to send and in what quantities. Again this is easily solved if they had a mid-level executive position keeping track of the numbers to pass on to regionals. By only doing inventory once a year all the pressure is put on temp employees who count by hand in-store what is available. Hopefully they dont make mistakes!!!! If only wm was able to relay in real time with a point of sale system THAT FUNCTIONED and didnt block the sales history of each item (not accessible to employees) THAN a stock room manager could make daily orders at night based on what sold and "hot items". If you look at target someone is always checking with their inventory guns if something can be replenished when they see empty pegs. Wm employees cant do that since their inventory doesnt match up with what it says is available. Wm instead has 2 types of toy section employees. The ones that put back all the unsold/returned/found in other parts of the store toys and the employees who simply unload entire pallets and "try to" put out whatever is on there. I constantly laugh out loud when i see them trying to out out 2 boxes of tmnt when the pegs are full. Then they just throw them on top. You have all seen them do this. There is no one employee that keeps regular tabs on what sells. Wm axed all those positions and relying on ai (faulty inventory) amd yearly human intervention. I mean seriously i dont know another store that only does inventory once a year. Its amateur hour at walmart. Ridiculous. Wm should not be in the toy business. The joke has lasted too long. They are basically dollar tree with grocery items. We have to realize that and pressure mattel to wake up from this nightmare. Wm is not about quality. Only quantity. As collectors we deserve more as we are in many cases single handedly keeping their toy business afloat. If you took out barbies, hot wheels and some other key items their toy sales would implode. There are not enough moms out there buying 20 dollar overpriced plush toys for their kids.... Heres hoping sdcc will display mattels new wwe stars line. I heard they could look like these. Just different packaging and only available on creations... if not than walmart has complete control of mattel somehow. Hard to believe they couldnt pull out of the contract unless it was for a specific time period. 3 years? If so 3 years is almost over... Yeah i lost my interest in these like so many others. Too many hurdles to jump through to get them. What also bothers me is that so few of us here are actual collectors. I have only seen a few collection photos. Mainly from hayabusa and cable and myself. That tells me 90% of everyone in this thread is just a reseller keeping them in package. I dont feel i fit in as i open all my toys to display them. I only keep my autographed figures from wrestlemania carded. So sad to see what happened to this hobby as it is just about condition, grade and rarity. That is not what will keep this line going. Without real interest in the figures, once the values of these things come down (once resellers learn they are overproduced) they will all abandon these. Oh wait that is exactly what is happening now. Yeah open these things up guys. When you realize that papa shango doesnt stand up that well and many figures are lacking accessories compared to the previous motuwwe line and more expensive, maybe then we can start to get actual changes made for these things instead of watching bidenflation raise the prices of these with less bang for the buck. Just a few items that should concern us all (motuwwe were 15.99 and came with shields, shoulder pads, armor, capes, and lots of extras). Compare that to these. We dont hear about these things because so few of us have ever even opened up the little white bags with extra hands to realize there isnt much else there besides a few boots in some cases. Hogan might sell if he had other singlets in that bag... The elites. I didnt know wm still carries those... Mnw have only replenished once and they appear to be the same figures at every store. Hogan/hall and forgot the last 2. Nothing else from s1 ever came back out. How does mattel expect us to collect that line if they only get put out once. Add to the list of lines that should not be at walmart. Mnw should be on ringside if anything. Def not at walmart though. There arent enough of us interested in them. Just keeping it real. To get changes we have to be honest about what we see. The biggest problem now is the single pegs at walmart. You cant even put out 2 cases on it (if there was no pegwarmers to begin with). I no longer believe that Walmart is stocking ANY toys based on inventory numbers. I've seen identical pallets at multiple Walmarts that include Monsters High, Barbie, Jurassic World, and Hot Wheels (no WWE). I've seen stores with only WWE Basics stocked - and they get in MORE WWE BASICS. But never Elites. They just put together pallets of popular toys and send a case of everything to the larger stores. Its up to the staff to find a spot to put them (often up on top of the racks). It doesn't matter if they already have it or if they are completely out. I've seen so many things that don't make any sense during this last three weeks searching for MNW2. It's really been eye-opening - they have no system. They're just sending stuff out at random and completely ignoring other items (such as Main Line Elites and Monday Night Wars). Nobody is at the wheel. I understand they are the world's largest retailer and Mattel has to do business with them.... but I truly wish they wouldn't offer them IN-STORE exclusives when Walmart has proven that they aren't going to stock them. One case-per-store (or ZERO) simply isn't enough for these sought-after collectible items. Walmart In-Store exclusives NEED to have an alternative way to obtain, either through Mattel Creations, Ringside Collectibles, or Walmart's own website (IF they somehow guaranteed delivery). I am a collector - I have yet to sell a single figure - and I'm becoming beyond frustrated with this hobby. They are making it increasingly difficult for me to spend my money with them. The MNW community is about to find out the hard way what we have dealt with for the past 2 years at least, And you can go back to the last waves of motuwwe as well. Lots of questions to steve about mnws2 asking if they are one and done. I have to believe they made more than just one case per store per wave. Sometimes i have thoughts that used to be called conspiracy theories but if a billion dollar conpany wanted to... they could hoard a specific line of figures and then sell them off posing as anonymous sellers right? I mean, who would know. I can imagine how some "present day collectors" full of museums of prototypes and rare last series releases got them. I can also imagine certain ebay sellers with multiple prototypes and macho man and rock figures doing that to earn some extra money. Whoops did i say the quiet part out loud? If these figures never make it to the shelves and if we know that mattel is still making a buttload of these (the mountains of hogans increase each week), THAN where did they go? I mean i mentioned this last year already when the math didnt add up but we really have to start asking these questions with the constant new listings of s9 and 10. The only thing thaT keeps me rethinking that theory is due to the fact that steve has never answered that question. (Why sellers like paul and others get these things 6 months prior?) Let me be frank. I know who the guys are that buy these at most stores. I talked to them a lot. There have been plenty of stories surrounding these and other exclusive lines. I know for a fact that boxes seen on fresh pallets later never get put out when other "non toy department" employees cant find them after they were seen on the pallets by the toy guy who went on break only to come back and not find them either... lots of shennanigans and it is a waste of our time. Lets get real. Seller htf outlet has currectly: 9 series 10 sets for sale. That is 30 new figures from a set that WAS already being sold before it was even shown off at wrestlemania!!!! BUT WAIT THERES MOREEEEEEE That same seller has sold some of those series 10 sets already. Guess how many? 30!!!!!! OH WAIT IF YOU CALL NOW WE'LL THROW IN THE SATELLITE DISH AS WELL. HE HAS SOLD 12 BLUE PANTS HOGANS SINCE MARCH 12 i cant even imagine how many cases he had to open to find 12 but i am guessing at least 3x that much. I only found one blue pants hogan last december. Since then they have all been red. Almost like it was meant to be released that way.. So yeah now factor in the guy who sold boxes and boxes of s9 and walmart has real competition. So yeah we are back to square one with random nobodies coming out of nowhere with what appears to be a license to sell mattel toys. All of pauls toys are mattel. We dont see him selling star wars. So mattel is either aware or we have to think backdooring theory #1. Until steve answers this question it will remain a mystery but it is absolutely amazing to see that htf seller going through 30 sets AND STILL nothing has even showed up online at walmart or at retail for this "WALMART EXCLUSIVE" line (not even in california!) That personally is the main reason i am tired of this game as there is no transparancy to this line to the point that it feels we are just being pushed into the slaughterhouse (ebay) telling us to get them there or to suck it. Wasnt the point of walmart signing the contract for these things to make them available to walmart customers to increase foot traffic in their stores instead of allowing these 3rd parties to sell them all to the point where many of the people in this thread already got them from that anonymous seller. It sure has created the opposite effect it seems. Here i was doing daily runs and trucking all over multiple states looking for these and now i will only get them elsewhere. Seems like walmart is losing customers not gaining them. If htf is truly 3rd party than walmart makes zero profit off of his sales. So you would think walmart would step in and say wait a minute, "Where did you get those". Or at the very least demand mattel explain how someone else has their exclusives. So the fact that we have had none of these questions answered by mattel reps and since there has been no action by walmart to stop paul or others on ebay lets me know they may all be complicit in this. In the end though the amount of collectors supporting this line has waned and the 8 or so of us left here at least know not to waste our time supporting a future walmart exclusive wave. Sure seems like neither walmart nor mattel really care doesnt it... Sad state of affairs. These will become the street sharks of the 2020s. A line with so much potential but just couldnt get over that 3 year hump. I still believe interest could be there but i am now starting to believe they need to add more 90s wrestlers to keep the ball rolling. 80s nostalgia is over. They are already moving on to a lot of 90s ips now. Best mix going forward is two 90s guys and one golden age wrestler. More now than ever we need.... STEINERS ....gasp.... Oh and mnw will most likely be forgotten about since you never see them.There arent even pegwarners for that line.
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Post by wrestlingcollector80 on May 29, 2024 5:59:27 GMT -5
I've heard the distribution would be getting better for these figures but that has not happened. 3 Walmart's in my area have not gotten any new superstars since series 7 Capt. Lou Albano and Vader which still sit on the shelf at 1 of the Walmart's. NONE of the 3 Walmart in my area have gotten elites in probably a good 4-6 months minus the miavia pack. How could distribution be so bad for the top department store in the US. 1 Walmart had gotten MNW series 1 and 2 only 1 set though of each. Distribution is horrible, or these stores are not ordering what they can.
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Post by Flair Forever on May 29, 2024 6:24:43 GMT -5
I no longer believe that Walmart is stocking ANY toys based on inventory numbers. I've seen identical pallets at multiple Walmarts that include Monsters High, Barbie, Jurassic World, and Hot Wheels (no WWE). I've seen stores with only WWE Basics stocked - and they get in MORE WWE BASICS. But never Elites. They just put together pallets of popular toys and send a case of everything to the larger stores. Its up to the staff to find a spot to put them (often up on top of the racks). It doesn't matter if they already have it or if they are completely out. I've seen so many things that don't make any sense during this last three weeks searching for MNW2. It's really been eye-opening - they have no system. They're just sending stuff out at random and completely ignoring other items (such as Main Line Elites and Monday Night Wars). Nobody is at the wheel. I understand they are the world's largest retailer and Mattel has to do business with them.... but I truly wish they wouldn't offer them IN-STORE exclusives when Walmart has proven that they aren't going to stock them. One case-per-store (or ZERO) simply isn't enough for these sought-after collectible items. Walmart In-Store exclusives NEED to have an alternative way to obtain, either through Mattel Creations, Ringside Collectibles, or Walmart's own website (IF they somehow guaranteed delivery). I am a collector - I have yet to sell a single figure - and I'm becoming beyond frustrated with this hobby. They are making it increasingly difficult for me to spend my money with them. The MNW community is about to find out the hard way what we have dealt with for the past 2 years at least, And you can go back to the last waves of motuwwe as well. Lots of questions to steve about mnws2 asking if they are one and done. I have to believe they made more than just one case per store per wave. Sometimes i have thoughts that used to be called conspiracy theories but if a billion dollar conpany wanted to... they could hoard a specific line of figures and then sell them off posing as anonymous sellers right? I mean, who would know. I can imagine how some "present day collectors" full of museums of prototypes and rare last series releases got them. I can also imagine certain ebay sellers with multiple prototypes and macho man and rock figures doing that to earn some extra money. Whoops did i say the quiet part out loud? ............... Sad state of affairs. These will become the street sharks of the 2020s. A line with so much potential but just couldnt get over that 3 year hump. I still believe interest could be there but i am now starting to believe they need to add more 90s wrestlers to keep the ball rolling. 80s nostalgia is over. They are already moving on to a lot of 90s ips now. Best mix going forward is two 90s guys and one golden age wrestler. More now than ever we need.... STEINERS ....gasp.... Oh and mnw will most likely be forgotten about since you never see them.There arent even pegwarners for that line. A lot to digest here.... I don't agree with you that there is a "conspiracy" between Mattel and 3rd Party sellers. I think Mattel has a touchy relationship with Walmart - it's the largest retailer in the world. Mattel wants to get as much shelf space and sell Walmart as many toys as possible. That's just good business! That's why they have agreements in place, such as "exclusive lines" to lock-in that retail space. Mattel is the "salesman" here and Walmart is the "buyer" - and Walmart doesn't want to buy any more than they'll sell, because they'll be stuck with product that doesn't move. So I'm sure there's a constant back-n-forth where Mattel pushes Walmart to buy more, and Walmart pushes Mattel to send less. In Walmarts view, these products selling out so quickly is probably a good thing. That means they aren't stuck with dead product that they then have to clearance or re-pack & sell to a discount store (like Ollie's). Meanwhile, I'm sure Mattel has "factory minimums" - where they simply have to produce a certain amount to be viable for the factory to produce them. So if Walmart only wants 20,000 cases of Superstars, but the "factory minimum" is 25,000..... Mattel gets stuck sitting on 5000 cases. I just wish Walmart wasn't so willing to let their shelves run empty for months and months at a time. This isn't a new problem - it's been going on for years. It is a very valid question though - HOW do these 3rd party sellers keep obtaining Superstars Series so early? They do appear on Ebay months before they hit any Walmart store. Where are they getting them from? I do know from credible sources that Walmart both sells off entire pallets that they deem "excess" - there was a man selling Elites at the Flea Market about a year ago, he said he bought an entire pallet from Walmart of mixed items. I also know that Walmart donates entire pallets to charities. I know because I have a relative who picks them up. My assumption is that Walmart feels the stock is excessive, they don't have the staff to unpack it all, and this way they can write it off on their taxes as charitable donations. Just my own theory. I think that explains SOME of the product shortages (Walmart just doesn't stock it, they get rid of entire pallets because they don't have time to deal with them). But it doesn't explain how 3rd Party sellers are getting Walmart exclusive products months in advance, and it doesn't explain the widespread shortage of Elites across the Walmarts, at least the ones in my region.
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Post by thep1 on May 29, 2024 8:13:59 GMT -5
The MNW community is about to find out the hard way what we have dealt with for the past 2 years at least, And you can go back to the last waves of motuwwe as well. Lots of questions to steve about mnws2 asking if they are one and done. I have to believe they made more than just one case per store per wave. Sometimes i have thoughts that used to be called conspiracy theories but if a billion dollar conpany wanted to... they could hoard a specific line of figures and then sell them off posing as anonymous sellers right? I mean, who would know. I can imagine how some "present day collectors" full of museums of prototypes and rare last series releases got them. I can also imagine certain ebay sellers with multiple prototypes and macho man and rock figures doing that to earn some extra money. Whoops did i say the quiet part out loud? ............... Sad state of affairs. These will become the street sharks of the 2020s. A line with so much potential but just couldnt get over that 3 year hump. I still believe interest could be there but i am now starting to believe they need to add more 90s wrestlers to keep the ball rolling. 80s nostalgia is over. They are already moving on to a lot of 90s ips now. Best mix going forward is two 90s guys and one golden age wrestler. More now than ever we need.... STEINERS ....gasp.... Oh and mnw will most likely be forgotten about since you never see them.There arent even pegwarners for that line. A lot to digest here.... I don't agree with you that there is a "conspiracy" between Mattel and 3rd Party sellers. I think Mattel has a touchy relationship with Walmart - it's the largest retailer in the world. Mattel wants to get as much shelf space and sell Walmart as many toys as possible. That's just good business! That's why they have agreements in place, such as "exclusive lines" to lock-in that retail space. Mattel is the "salesman" here and Walmart is the "buyer" - and Walmart doesn't want to buy any more than they'll sell, because they'll be stuck with product that doesn't move. So I'm sure there's a constant back-n-forth where Mattel pushes Walmart to buy more, and Walmart pushes Mattel to send less. In Walmarts view, these products selling out so quickly is probably a good thing. That means they aren't stuck with dead product that they then have to clearance or re-pack & sell to a discount store (like Ollie's). Meanwhile, I'm sure Mattel has "factory minimums" - where they simply have to produce a certain amount to be viable for the factory to produce them. So if Walmart only wants 20,000 cases of Superstars, but the "factory minimum" is 25,000..... Mattel gets stuck sitting on 5000 cases. I just wish Walmart wasn't so willing to let their shelves run empty for months and months at a time. This isn't a new problem - it's been going on for years. It is a very valid question though - HOW do these 3rd party sellers keep obtaining Superstars Series so early? They do appear on Ebay months before they hit any Walmart store. Where are they getting them from? I do know from credible sources that Walmart both sells off entire pallets that they deem "excess" - there was a man selling Elites at the Flea Market about a year ago, he said he bought an entire pallet from Walmart of mixed items. I also know that Walmart donates entire pallets to charities. I know because I have a relative who picks them up. My assumption is that Walmart feels the stock is excessive, they don't have the staff to unpack it all, and this way they can write it off on their taxes as charitable donations. Just my own theory. I think that explains SOME of the product shortages (Walmart just doesn't stock it, they get rid of entire pallets because they don't have time to deal with them). But it doesn't explain how 3rd Party sellers are getting Walmart exclusive products months in advance, and it doesn't explain the widespread shortage of Elites across the Walmarts, at least the ones in my region. You are way more plausible and sensical than the ever-conspirator (of toys of all things) nomore (who I like a lot, just too conspiracy-minded on this one). I totally agree that Walmart likes seeing those figures disappear fast. On the flip side, when they still have Lerae E87, doupdrop 96, Nyla, Eddie, and the endless figs that have sat for multiple years, tells them that the merch doesn't move, so why order more?! Especially if they are non-collectors and don't get it. In Walmert's eyes, why would they order more Superstars if there are still 10x S6/7 Pipers and Rocks and Savages?! To them, they're figures that aren't moving. To us collectors, put out a Doink or ATG or S9 and they'd fly off the shelves. If they only knew/know not to overstock. If I had money then I'd clear the shelves of all the pegwarmers and see if that helps get new mainlines in and any other figure. I'd love to do a study that tracks that. How quickly they restock and how quickly they move.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2024 8:23:51 GMT -5
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Post by nomorexclusives on May 29, 2024 8:48:43 GMT -5
The MNW community is about to find out the hard way what we have dealt with for the past 2 years at least, And you can go back to the last waves of motuwwe as well. Lots of questions to steve about mnws2 asking if they are one and done. I have to believe they made more than just one case per store per wave. Sometimes i have thoughts that used to be called conspiracy theories but if a billion dollar conpany wanted to... they could hoard a specific line of figures and then sell them off posing as anonymous sellers right? I mean, who would know. I can imagine how some "present day collectors" full of museums of prototypes and rare last series releases got them. I can also imagine certain ebay sellers with multiple prototypes and macho man and rock figures doing that to earn some extra money. Whoops did i say the quiet part out loud? ............... Sad state of affairs. These will become the street sharks of the 2020s. A line with so much potential but just couldnt get over that 3 year hump. I still believe interest could be there but i am now starting to believe they need to add more 90s wrestlers to keep the ball rolling. 80s nostalgia is over. They are already moving on to a lot of 90s ips now. Best mix going forward is two 90s guys and one golden age wrestler. More now than ever we need.... STEINERS ....gasp.... Oh and mnw will most likely be forgotten about since you never see them.There arent even pegwarners for that line. A lot to digest here.... I don't agree with you that there is a "conspiracy" between Mattel and 3rd Party sellers. I think Mattel has a touchy relationship with Walmart - it's the largest retailer in the world. Mattel wants to get as much shelf space and sell Walmart as many toys as possible. That's just good business! That's why they have agreements in place, such as "exclusive lines" to lock-in that retail space. Mattel is the "salesman" here and Walmart is the "buyer" - and Walmart doesn't want to buy any more than they'll sell, because they'll be stuck with product that doesn't move. So I'm sure there's a constant back-n-forth where Mattel pushes Walmart to buy more, and Walmart pushes Mattel to send less. In Walmarts view, these products selling out so quickly is probably a good thing. That means they aren't stuck with dead product that they then have to clearance or re-pack & sell to a discount store (like Ollie's). Meanwhile, I'm sure Mattel has "factory minimums" - where they simply have to produce a certain amount to be viable for the factory to produce them. So if Walmart only wants 20,000 cases of Superstars, but the "factory minimum" is 25,000..... Mattel gets stuck sitting on 5000 cases. I just wish Walmart wasn't so willing to let their shelves run empty for months and months at a time. This isn't a new problem - it's been going on for years. It is a very valid question though - HOW do these 3rd party sellers keep obtaining Superstars Series so early? They do appear on Ebay months before they hit any Walmart store. Where are they getting them from? I do know from credible sources that Walmart both sells off entire pallets that they deem "excess" - there was a man selling Elites at the Flea Market about a year ago, he said he bought an entire pallet from Walmart of mixed items. I also know that Walmart donates entire pallets to charities. I know because I have a relative who picks them up. My assumption is that Walmart feels the stock is excessive, they don't have the staff to unpack it all, and this way they can write it off on their taxes as charitable donations. Just my own theory. I think that explains SOME of the product shortages (Walmart just doesn't stock it, they get rid of entire pallets because they don't have time to deal with them). But it doesn't explain how 3rd Party sellers are getting Walmart exclusive products months in advance, and it doesn't explain the widespread shortage of Elites across the Walmarts, at least the ones in my region. Not with mattel and 3rd party resellers but with walmart and 3rd party sellers. Which we both agree doesnt make sense since these 3rd party resellers are not getting excessive stock but instead the preorder stock before walmart receives it. Those preorders are coming from mattel no doubt. Since mattel wont admit or deny if superstars are still exclusives there is plenty of doubt about the origins of these figures. Lack of transparency fuels theories that usually end up being true. Who is the primary seller now? What is def happening for many years now is that walmart preorders are not being stocked leading to cancellations. So that last question certainly leads to one thinking that the 3rd party resellers are receiving the stock that was supposed to fulfill walmarts preorders. (Like paul receiving the mr.t wave well before (2 months prior) and after walmart cancelled those orders, same with s7) And that is on mattel if true. Bottom line: walmart no longer appears to be the first stop for these things which only mattel can deny. If mattel does deny that then walmart is perhaps "donating" their best stock to these 3rd party "outlet" guys. But that would be so backwards that it would not make sense in any universe. Why give away easy sales (if put online at wm.com would sell out in hours). This is why all parties appear to know what is going on and leaving the customer in the dark. Mattel will take a hands off approach until they start getting questions like "where are the elites and mnw figures and where did s6 superstars go". In the end mattel wants those lines to be successfull. If walmart doesnt stock and "donates" to anonymous nobodies that sell them for 3x what walmart could sell them for until they end up clearanced out on walmarts own website for 4$, THAN people will stop buying them for 20 quid. When we dtop buying from retail and only on ebay than walmart will not reorder UNLESS (this is where you gotta put on your tin foil cap) they still profit somehow regardless. If their profit is using these figures as a tax writeoff than so be it. But at some point you would think mattel wants their customers to be happy and not forced to pay 3x retail price just because walmart is gaining the system. Whatever happened to the customer is right? We are all jumping through hoops to obtain these. It should be walmarts job to ensure their customers are taken care of. This is a concept that target still adheres to. If a mom with 2 kids is looking for a christmas present she will go to target because they will actually stock their preorders and give rain checks on items. Walmart doesnt and that instead forces that mom to go online and pay 165$ for s10 or to suck it and drive every day to wwalmart until they decide to release one case. It is like spinning the roulette wheel. Most parents will not put up with that. We as collectors are used to the chase. I have done this for 40+ years now but when product simply doesnt hit shelves you give up and you start questioning everything and then when you realize it is like that everywhere, than you start questioning your sanity. Why continue. No transparency, no changes, no sale
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