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Post by Yambag Jones on Jun 29, 2021 12:25:00 GMT -5
Retros do nothing for me, but I hope they sell very well and Jazwares keeps trying new things.
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Post by drgreenevil on Jun 29, 2021 14:02:29 GMT -5
Since AEW is currently not producing a lower priced/lower tier line (they don't have a basics line)... Maybe these retros are what is supposed to fill that gap?
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Post by newgenandy on Jun 29, 2021 14:58:47 GMT -5
Retros do nothing for me, but I hope they sell very well and Jazwares keeps trying new things. That for me seems a no brainier. Bang out a lower price lesser deco / articulation lime for the kids There’s a scale and basic version of the ring so it does seem natural there would be a basic line
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Post by drgreenevil on Jun 29, 2021 22:03:08 GMT -5
Retros do nothing for me, but I hope they sell very well and Jazwares keeps trying new things. That for me seems a no brainier. Bang out a lower price lesser deco / articulation lime for the kids There’s a scale and basic version of the ring so it does seem natural there would be a basic line Are you saying that the AEW ring that has been out the whole time is for basic figures that are coming? Because outside of Jazwares saying they might do a basic line in the future, there is no basic/lower tiered line coming. That "basic" ring is meant for the Unrivaled/collector lines.
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Post by newworldoz on Jun 29, 2021 22:26:29 GMT -5
Don't understand the hate here; why not let people who are interested be interested, and see if they sell. I pretty much agree with stc13's comments on this. I think this has been a pretty respectful thread with some people expressing honestly that they are not interested in this line. I don't think anybody interested in the line feels like they are being shouted down. I also agree with you, mrh, we'll see how these do on the shelves. Personally, I never got into the hasbros. While I was interested in a couple of the retros, poor distribution in Australia meant I didn't buy any. With the new AEW retros, my interest will probably be based on their cost, distribution and finally their look. If I can find these in stores I'll probably pick up a couple.
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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on Jun 30, 2021 1:14:27 GMT -5
I don't know if I'm in the minority, but I'd love to see a BCA style retro line.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Jun 30, 2021 1:25:26 GMT -5
Obviously people can like what they like, and there's at least some following for Hasbro style figures. But Jeremy also says they want to be a company that responds to collector feedback - that means positive and negative. I hope they take some lessons from the WWE line. The figures did pretty well at $10. The bumped the price point up to $15 and the line died in pretty short order. If there's a way to release these as a standalone, I'm all for it. People who want them can buy, those who don't won't. But if the plan is to work LJN and Hasbro style retros into existing lines and price points? Jeremy has said that a new line is fragile and figures backing up on pegs can literally be a line killer at retail for an unproven brand. I think these figures are a really hard sell at $20. Maybe I'm wrong. But it seems like a really big gamble to take that have huge ramifications if things go they way it's sounding. They could be too reactive - the market seemingly wants retros looking on here, social media etc but they want retro’s for the people who were not made back then - Dino, brawler, barbarian etc not for modern day aew wrestlers it seems As seen with Mattel retros, when people on here said they wanted them, they meant Diesel, Goldust, & JYD, not current guys
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Post by newgenandy on Jun 30, 2021 3:10:58 GMT -5
That for me seems a no brainier. Bang out a lower price lesser deco / articulation lime for the kids There’s a scale and basic version of the ring so it does seem natural there would be a basic line Are you saying that the AEW ring that has been out the whole time is for basic figures that are coming? Because outside of Jazwares saying they might do a basic line in the future, there is no basic/lower tiered line coming. That "basic" ring is meant for the Unrivaled/collector lines. Not quite no But they have released two aew rings, one scale and one a cheaper ‘basic’ ring They only have elite priced figures but that’s not going to get parents buying figures for kids to smash about. Since they already have a premium (scale) and basic ring I think it’d make sense to have a premium and basic line
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Post by stc13 on Jun 30, 2021 7:32:11 GMT -5
They could be too reactive - the market seemingly wants retros looking on here, social media etc but they want retro’s for the people who were not made back then - Dino, brawler, barbarian etc not for modern day aew wrestlers it seems As seen with Mattel retros, when people on here said they wanted them, they meant Diesel, Goldust, & JYD, not current guys Character selection is a huge component. I get the needs/pressures of a property who wants their active talent featured. And obviously the Bucks LJNs sold through pretty well as a novelty figure. But it also seems a little full headed to look at where the Mattel Retro line tanked and think "well we can make Hasbros and LJNs and we won't have that problem." But maybe I'm being too reactive. AEW figures are nearly impossible to find and the production run still seems to be well below demand. And it definitely is a dedicated fan base. Maybe it doesn't matter who/what they put out - there just isn't enough product to create a backlog on shelves.
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Post by stc13 on Jun 30, 2021 7:37:21 GMT -5
Are you saying that the AEW ring that has been out the whole time is for basic figures that are coming? Because outside of Jazwares saying they might do a basic line in the future, there is no basic/lower tiered line coming. That "basic" ring is meant for the Unrivaled/collector lines. Not quite no But they have released two aew rings, one scale and one a cheaper ‘basic’ ring They only have elite priced figures but that’s not going to get parents buying figures for kids to smash about. Since they already have a premium (scale) and basic ring I think it’d make sense to have a premium and basic line Obviously things can change, but Jeremy has said in the past that they are only doing one figure style, which will be the premium articulation. Think of it this way - adding in a "basic" line means you need another tag at retail, new tooling, etc. WWE has the brand recognition and scale to do that. But look at how much they've had to cut corners in recent years to hit the 9.99 price point. If AEW were able to get another tag at retail, it made a lot more sense to do Unmatched at a higher price point (and profit). Retail is only going to give you so much space, especially as the "second tier" brand in a category. And honestly AEW's presence at retail has already outpaced expectations, imo.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Jun 30, 2021 7:47:26 GMT -5
Not quite no But they have released two aew rings, one scale and one a cheaper ‘basic’ ring They only have elite priced figures but that’s not going to get parents buying figures for kids to smash about. Since they already have a premium (scale) and basic ring I think it’d make sense to have a premium and basic line Obviously things can change, but Jeremy has said in the past that they are only doing one figure style, which will be the premium articulation. Think of it this way - adding in a "basic" line means you need another tag at retail, new tooling, etc. WWE has the brand recognition and scale to do that. But look at how much they've had to cut corners in recent years to hit the 9.99 price point. If AEW were able to get another tag at retail, it made a lot more sense to do Unmatched at a higher price point (and profit). Retail is only going to give you so much space, especially as the "second tier" brand in a category. And honestly AEW's presence at retail has already outpaced expectations, imo. Imo AEW could not make a $10 line work. Their customer base is more niche, which means it skews higher in age, their existing customers do not want less articulated modern figures, and retailers would demand the line stay at $9.99 if they carried it. It’s just not feasible, and let’s be honest, there’s a very small subset of people who would want it. Just imagine they announce a basic line, what do you think the reaction on here would be? 5% joy, 10% indifference, and 85% bitching
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jun 30, 2021 10:45:05 GMT -5
Retros do nothing for me, but I hope they sell very well and Jazwares keeps trying new things. That for me seems a no brainier. Bang out a lower price lesser deco / articulation lime for the kids There’s a scale and basic version of the ring so it does seem natural there would be a basic line If they make a line that’s in scale with Unrivaled with less articulation (but more than Mattel’s 🐴💩 Basic), I think there’s a place in the market for them.
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Post by newgenandy on Jun 30, 2021 11:28:15 GMT -5
That for me seems a no brainier. Bang out a lower price lesser deco / articulation lime for the kids There’s a scale and basic version of the ring so it does seem natural there would be a basic line If they make a line that’s in scale with Unrivaled with less articulation (but more than Mattel’s 🐴💩 Basic), I think there’s a place in the market for them. Yeah I think people look past 1. Not everyone can drop $30 on a figure x 4 in a set = $120 but could drop $10 a figure x 4 and get s set 2. There are kids aew fans 3. Adults getting figures as presents for kids often won’t care about what “brand” or “line” of figure they’re buying for Timmy’s birthday. If he had 5 figures and auntie Julie is asked to get him a new wrestling figure and she sees guys in cool gear or a mask that she knows jimmy hasn’t got she’ll get it no matter the brand
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Post by rkmo: The FOCUS Method on Jun 30, 2021 11:37:51 GMT -5
I can envision the market coming around on a $10-13 line if it's treated with as much care and dedication as the UNR/UNM lines are. The budget cuts, the lackluster energy the corresponding Mattel line projects really hampered those. At their best they are a great way to complement a roster.
And just to clarify things, my retros comment was making light of the difficulties people have had talking about similar products on the Others board. And that had little to do with the actual products, and more to do with... other unplesantries. No disparagements meant toward anyone excited for AEW retros.
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Post by Ministry of Darkness on Jul 11, 2021 0:30:31 GMT -5
I wonder if Jeremy can gives us retro RA style AEW figures?
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Jul 11, 2021 0:50:47 GMT -5
I thought these were Legends figures. All I want are some WCW crow Stings with the right boots and singlets.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Jul 11, 2021 2:40:04 GMT -5
I wonder if Jeremy can gives us retro RA style AEW figures? RA figures would be NO BUYS
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Post by Ministry of Darkness on Jul 11, 2021 3:04:28 GMT -5
I wonder if Jeremy can gives us retro RA style AEW figures? RA figures would be NO BUYS We could add that certain legend we never got in RA form to the classic line. I would buy that certain legend if it was made in RA form..
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Post by Lil hulkster on Jul 11, 2021 14:13:55 GMT -5
put me down for another who isn’t interested idk who the market is for these besides 35+ year olds on the nostalgia kick or people who collect one person I might pick up a Darby Allin for a desk piece only because I like him and the figures are half the size of Unrivaled I just don’t think there’s a need for LJN or Hasbro style figures anymore, it’s not 1988 anymore And yet LJN Cody is on PO 3. Way off my dude.
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Post by crush on Jul 12, 2021 1:13:38 GMT -5
In skimming through this thread again, I'm not seeing what Jeremy said in confirmation. Does anyone have a link or transcript?
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