The All Retro Figures General Discussion [Closing Soon!]

[cmbarnes10]

I recieved my MoM from mitch today, great figures. They are some of my favorite retros since the original Hasbros. My only complaint is the cards were warped, I don't know if the shipping box was to small or what but I'm a loose collector so it doesn't affect me but I can understand if MOC people start to complain

[eddiebrock]

I really want Asylum's figure of Scott Norton in red that's suppose to be a future release, but it's almost been an entire year since we first saw Series 1 available for pre-order, and here they are talking about pre-orders for Series 2. How about wait until customers got the first ones in hand before you announce the next set? I'll never understand this kind of practice. I'm not paying in advance for any figure I have to wait a year to receive so why announce more?

[@Chair.Shot]

Sept 18, 2023 14:42:57 GMT -5 eddiebrock said:

I really want Asylum's figure of Scott Norton in red that's suppose to be a future release, but it's almost been an entire year since we first saw Series 1 available for pre-order, and here they are talking about pre-orders for Series 2. How about wait until customers got the first ones in hand before you announce the next set? I'll never understand this kind of practice. I'm not paying in advance for any figure I have to wait a year to receive so why announce more?

As far as I’m aware, they have not had a series 1 update since August 11. They blamed it on something to do with the soft goods I believe. Taking preorders for series 2 seems like a dumpy thing to do in this climate.

[eddiebrock]

Sept 18, 2023 14:52:20 GMT -5 @Chair.Shot said:

Sept 18, 2023 14:42:57 GMT -5 eddiebrock said:

I really want Asylum's figure of Scott Norton in red that's suppose to be a future release, but it's almost been an entire year since we first saw Series 1 available for pre-order, and here they are talking about pre-orders for Series 2. How about wait until customers got the first ones in hand before you announce the next set? I'll never understand this kind of practice. I'm not paying in advance for any figure I have to wait a year to receive so why announce more?

As far as I’m aware, they have not had a series 1 update since August 11. They blamed it on something to do with the soft goods I believe. Taking preorders for series 2 seems like a dumpy thing to do in this climate.

Yeah, I don't like that they won't even provide any kind of shipping estimate if you pre-order. Not a good look for Ethan Page as one of the owners. Just tell us!

[mrh]

cmbarnes10 -- would you be willing to post photos of MOM with original Hasbros?

For ZST - I am every behind on the major pod. I was a listening from December 2022, and Sterling said his figure would likely be in hand by *mid* 2023. So clearly Zombie has been misleading those guys also.

[Deleted]

Sept 18, 2023 15:29:40 GMT -5 mrh said:

cmbarnes10 -- would you be willing to post photos of MOM with original Hasbros?

For ZST - I am every behind on the major pod. I was a listening from December 2023, and Sterling said his figure would likely be in hand by *mid* 2023. So clearly Zombie has been misleading those guys also.

There’s a global pandemic!

[newgenandy]

Sept 18, 2023 11:06:22 GMT -5 @Chair.Shot said:

According to ZST, they are expecting the cargo containers to dock on Saturday. Says preorders should get tracking numbers as early as next week.

Bastion Booger should be shipping after series 2. Comment section is filled with people asking about Johnny Gargano. I keep forgetting that figure was ever made/sold. My guess is that Booger was well into production before that. Those customers won’t see it in 2023 would be my guess.

Working on the basis series 2 and booger are out this year and in hand that’s 2 series and 3 random figures in over 3 years

The line was announced 4th jan 21 with prototypes of Matt and Bryan already done so by jan 24 the line will have been over 3 years old.

In April 22 he had 41 signed based on the list chairshot did and we know a few have been signed since then so let’s say 45.

At 5 figures per series + 1 random / SDCC so 6 per year it’ll take an until 2029 to get out the figures he has signed.

Not to mention JJ 6” was advertised “coming 2023” I know he had a country singer gimmick, is he coming from the factory by horse?
oh and let’s not forget March 2022 (18 months ago) enzo, Todd pedingill, slick and Paul Roma were “In development” none of which are up for pre order or on the way

Maybe stopping and starting random figures snd not planning out your development schedule isn’t the best way to go?

[@Chair.Shot]

Speaking of Slick and P&G, I am curious what the real status of series 3 is.

One Man Gang being a one-off feels very odd. The other figures in the series have been in development for so long that it feels like there shouldn’t be any real delay at this point but I’m sure I’ll be proven wrong.

It might be worth pointing out that series 3 doesn’t have nearly as much detail as series 2. That isn’t to say they are lacking detail; there just isn’t as much needed comparatively.

Power and Glory have simple tight designs with very plain soft goods half-shirts.

Slick and Tunney appear to have identical bodies (hands might vary depending upon what ZST decides on). Paint on Jack is going to be fairly easy with decals probably used for his tie and pocket square. Slick might have a bit more color depending upon which version we ultimately get. If it ends up being the one on the back of series 2 packaging, he will have blue and white shoes and come with the white hat.

…and that’s it (because OMG is said to be done already/shipping already. So the rest of series 3 shouldn’t take long thereafter one would think lol

[mrscream]

http://instagram.com/p/Cw0IPWKOeuq

[newgenandy]

Sept 19, 2023 4:34:16 GMT -5 @Chair.Shot said:

Speaking of Slick and P&G, I am curious what the real status of series 3 is.

One Man Gang being a one-off feels very odd. The other figures in the series have been in development for so long that it feels like there shouldn’t be any real delay at this point but I’m sure I’ll be proven wrong.

It might be worth pointing out that series 3 doesn’t have nearly as much detail as series 2. That isn’t to say they are lacking detail; there just isn’t as much needed comparatively.

Power and Glory have simple tight designs with very plain soft goods half-shirts.

Slick and Tunney appear to have identical bodies (hands might vary depending upon what ZST decides on). Paint on Jack is going to be fairly easy with decals probably used for his tie and pocket square. Slick might have a bit more color depending upon which version we ultimately get. If it ends up being the one on the back of series 2 packaging, he will have blue and white shoes and come with the white hat.

…and that’s it (because OMG is said to be done already/shipping already. So the rest of series 3 shouldn’t take long thereafter one would think lol

Pure speculation but I wonder on the viability of doing a set

One figure having issues could delay the whole set for potentially months. That’s why I prefer the drip feed, less expensive for consumers in one go, constant stream of figures arriving etc.

I get there’s probably economies of scale for delivery all together etc but potentially the negatives outweigh the positives

[3poajamie]

Did I read somewhere that there’s also a NYCC exclusive by ZST coming of someone that’s not been announced yet?

[britishbrickfan]

Sept 19, 2023 5:14:34 GMT -5 3poajamie said:

Did I read somewhere that there’s also a NYCC exclusive by ZST coming of someone that’s not been announced yet?

you mean one of his "Order during NYCC 2023, receive at some point after 2026?"

[3poajamie]

Sept 19, 2023 6:01:09 GMT -5 britishbrickfan said:

Sept 19, 2023 5:14:34 GMT -5 3poajamie said:

Did I read somewhere that there’s also a NYCC exclusive by ZST coming of someone that’s not been announced yet?

you mean one of his "Order during NYCC 2023, receive at some point after 2026?"

Think I read it was ready to go, I’ll try and find the post

[MKSavage]

Sept 19, 2023 4:47:25 GMT -5 mrscream said:

http://instagram.com/p/Cw0IPWKOeuq

Wow! Roma looks great. Can't wait for P&G and Slick. Tunney is a nice addition, too. 

[britishbrickfan]

Sept 19, 2023 7:53:16 GMT -5 3poajamie said:

Sept 19, 2023 6:01:09 GMT -5 britishbrickfan said:

you mean one of his "Order during NYCC 2023, receive at some point after 2026?"

Think I read it was ready to go, I’ll try and find the post

he says a lot of stuff is "ready to go" like One Man Gang

so what's the hold up??? other than it's not left China obviously....

[3poajamie]

Sept 19, 2023 8:29:30 GMT -5 britishbrickfan said:

Sept 19, 2023 7:53:16 GMT -5 3poajamie said:

Think I read it was ready to go, I’ll try and find the post

he says a lot of stuff is "ready to go" like One Man Gang

so what's the hold up??? other than it's not left China obviously....

This was on September the 11th in Major Pod group

“Hello everyone,

Some updates regarding upcoming Heels and Faces release schedules:

- with Series 2 arriving into our warehouse any day, we are waiting until every last order ships out before we put up the next set of pre-orders.
All the packing on series 2 is expected to take roughly 2 weeks, as we have the capability to ship out around 800 orders a day, Monday - Friday.

Once the last order ships, we will announce our next pre-order…the HIGHLY anticipated Death Match King Matt Cardona vs Nick Gage BLOODY 2-pack.

The Bloody 2-pack features an all-new Cardona with elbow and wrist articulation, multiple hands,accessories, and of course covered in blood.

This version of Nick Gage features a new removable cloth shirt and also features elbow and wrist articulation as well as a bloody head, and interchangeable non-bloody head with black bandana and bloody light tube - it’s a completely different Gage figure from series 2.

This 2-pack will have a capped edition size of around or under 2,000 pieces. (we will let you know what the final number is)

Around that same time we will have SMART MARK STERLING in a suit up for P/O - capped edition size of under 1,500. (same thing, we will let you know what the final number is)

*There will also be an online NYCC figure that is all-new with just over 1,000 made. (details to follow)*

The Cardona/Gage 2-pack is leaving our factory the week of November 17th - so after you place an order they will be in-hand 2 months after that. (hopefully sooner)

Smart Mark and the NYCC figure are leaving the Factory mid-October, we should have them in-hand about one month after you place the pre-order.

and finally…a BIG Black Friday debut figure -
BLACK STRAP ANDRE THE GIANT that is IN-HAND with immediate shipping once your order is placed - that’s right - NO WAIT on the black strap Andre!

Thanks!”

[britishbrickfan]

once again, there's no ETA of when his own products will arrive....

and yet again, no expense spent on shipping future lines.

what's up Josh? why not spend the extra to fly your stock in rather than waiting for an unknown length of time for shipping which, as we've seen with Series 2, can take months to get here?

[jerm]

Robbing Peter S3 preorders to pay Paul S2 shipments.

[newgenandy]

Sept 19, 2023 9:29:30 GMT -5 3poajamie said:

Sept 19, 2023 8:29:30 GMT -5 britishbrickfan said:

he says a lot of stuff is "ready to go" like One Man Gang

so what's the hold up??? other than it's not left China obviously....

This was on September the 11th in Major Pod group

“Hello everyone,

Some updates regarding upcoming Heels and Faces release schedules:

- with Series 2 arriving into our warehouse any day, we are waiting until every last order ships out before we put up the next set of pre-orders.
All the packing on series 2 is expected to take roughly 2 weeks, as we have the capability to ship out around 800 orders a day, Monday - Friday.

Once the last order ships, we will announce our next pre-order…the HIGHLY anticipated Death Match King Matt Cardona vs Nick Gage BLOODY 2-pack.

The Bloody 2-pack features an all-new Cardona with elbow and wrist articulation, multiple hands,accessories, and of course covered in blood.

This version of Nick Gage features a new removable cloth shirt and also features elbow and wrist articulation as well as a bloody head, and interchangeable non-bloody head with black bandana and bloody light tube - it’s a completely different Gage figure from series 2.

This 2-pack will have a capped edition size of around or under 2,000 pieces. (we will let you know what the final number is)

Around that same time we will have SMART MARK STERLING in a suit up for P/O - capped edition size of under 1,500. (same thing, we will let you know what the final number is)

*There will also be an online NYCC figure that is all-new with just over 1,000 made. (details to follow)*

The Cardona/Gage 2-pack is leaving our factory the week of November 17th - so after you place an order they will be in-hand 2 months after that. (hopefully sooner)

Smart Mark and the NYCC figure are leaving the Factory mid-October, we should have them in-hand about one month after you place the pre-order.

and finally…a BIG Black Friday debut figure -
BLACK STRAP ANDRE THE GIANT that is IN-HAND with immediate shipping once your order is placed - that’s right - NO WAIT on the black strap Andre!

Thanks!”

1. Why is he giving a private group not affiliated to his company more info than his customers on socials etc

2. Is there a peek behind the curtain there? 2 weeks and 800 a day. So that’s 11,200 (800 x 14). 7 figures in the series so 11,200 divided by 7 (granted not all figures will sell equally but to give an idea) = 1,600 per figure. Not great considering series 1 was 2,500 and he gave the impression series 2 did better than series 1…and if figures like raven did more how little did find other figures do?

[3poajamie]

Sept 19, 2023 11:51:16 GMT -5 newgenandy said:

Sept 19, 2023 9:29:30 GMT -5 3poajamie said:

This was on September the 11th in Major Pod group

“Hello everyone,

Some updates regarding upcoming Heels and Faces release schedules:

- with Series 2 arriving into our warehouse any day, we are waiting until every last order ships out before we put up the next set of pre-orders.
All the packing on series 2 is expected to take roughly 2 weeks, as we have the capability to ship out around 800 orders a day, Monday - Friday.

Once the last order ships, we will announce our next pre-order…the HIGHLY anticipated Death Match King Matt Cardona vs Nick Gage BLOODY 2-pack.

The Bloody 2-pack features an all-new Cardona with elbow and wrist articulation, multiple hands,accessories, and of course covered in blood.

This version of Nick Gage features a new removable cloth shirt and also features elbow and wrist articulation as well as a bloody head, and interchangeable non-bloody head with black bandana and bloody light tube - it’s a completely different Gage figure from series 2.

This 2-pack will have a capped edition size of around or under 2,000 pieces. (we will let you know what the final number is)

Around that same time we will have SMART MARK STERLING in a suit up for P/O - capped edition size of under 1,500. (same thing, we will let you know what the final number is)

*There will also be an online NYCC figure that is all-new with just over 1,000 made. (details to follow)*

The Cardona/Gage 2-pack is leaving our factory the week of November 17th - so after you place an order they will be in-hand 2 months after that. (hopefully sooner)

Smart Mark and the NYCC figure are leaving the Factory mid-October, we should have them in-hand about one month after you place the pre-order.

and finally…a BIG Black Friday debut figure -
BLACK STRAP ANDRE THE GIANT that is IN-HAND with immediate shipping once your order is placed - that’s right - NO WAIT on the black strap Andre!

Thanks!”

1. Why is he giving a private group not affiliated to his company more info than his customers on socials etc

2. Is there a peek behind the curtain there? 2 weeks and 800 a day. So that’s 11,200 (800 x 14). 7 figures in the series so 11,200 divided by 7 (granted not all figures will sell equally but to give an idea) = 1,600 per figure. Not great considering series 1 was 2,500 and he gave the impression series 2 did better than series 1…and if figures like raven did more how little did find other figures do?

A. No idea, I reached out on Instagram to ask if I could share it just after it was posted and got blanked.

B. 33 and third percent chance of making it by October