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Post by stc13 on Nov 2, 2020 16:08:17 GMT -5
I don't think many,if any of us,blamed RSC However I cannot look at this as anything other than a massive failure for WCT/Jazzwares. I get the launch with Walmart thing, gets you an immediate retail presence. However when you don't have enough product to even ESTABLISH that presence on the pegs and shelves,it's pointless. They're not hurting Walmart,they're hurting themselves. I understand wanting to not go cuckoo with producing Wave 1 because you're not sure if the line will sink or swim,but there should've been enough produced to have at least 3 - 4 cases per Walmart store and 1 shipper to each store. I personally know of stores that got only one case in, I know of stores that got NO cases in, and NOT A SINGLE ONE of the Walmart's within driving distance of me ( 4 of them) got the shipper in. They simply never received it. We are about to enter the prime shopping season of the year, and you will likely have NO product on pegs for people to buy. Explain to me how that breeds success? And you can't even go the "more online orders than ever" routr because you can't get them through walmart or RSC online shopping either! What a damn disaster! I think it's still way too early to write off the line as a whole. AEW has a ton of steam, and I expect that the product will do well longterm. But not having figures on shelves during the holiday buying season would absolutely be a failure. Something seems way off in their supply chain. It's been months since the initial AEW release, and at this point if you can't get S2 to market or a re-printing of S1, something is off.
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Post by stc13 on Nov 2, 2020 16:20:10 GMT -5
I'd never blame RSC. All they do is sell figures. I laugh when people on IG ask them questions that are meant for Mattel. Look, Covid ... I get it. Brand new line ... I get it. Newish company that has no where NEAR the power Mattel does ... I get it. Perhaps this can all be blamed on Jeremy. Kind sir, if you're going to promote this line, give away rare figures, hype this, hype that ... at least back your talk up. Stop jerking it to Hulk Hogan trading cards and Honus Wagner cards you can't afford. Run your line. But hey, you're still better than Super 7. My issue, and I use that term loosely, is that this wouldn't fly in just about any other industry. And it's certainly not limited to Jeremy/Jazwares. Whether it's Super 7 going radio silent for months on a product pre-ordered early this year or Mattel's constant vague non-answers, poor communication seems to be the norm. And there are constantly people defending it - claiming collectors are entitled, or that companies "aren't allowed" to give out information. In other industries, that kind of communication is basically signing your own death certificate. That's a big part of why I love RSC. They constantly update their customers, and provide sometimes frighteningly accurate shipping estimates, and do a great job with collector engagement. But it baffles me that the companies don't do more.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2020 16:21:33 GMT -5
The entitlement of people in this thread is amazing. Consumers aren’t entitled to merch they buy is quite the 2020 take big dog.
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Post by kinnikuman on Nov 2, 2020 18:46:51 GMT -5
I'd never blame RSC. All they do is sell figures. I laugh when people on IG ask them questions that are meant for Mattel. Look, Covid ... I get it. Brand new line ... I get it. Newish company that has no where NEAR the power Mattel does ... I get it. Perhaps this can all be blamed on Jeremy. Kind sir, if you're going to promote this line, give away rare figures, hype this, hype that ... at least back your talk up. Stop jerking it to Hulk Hogan trading cards and Honus Wagner cards you can't afford. Run your line. But hey, you're still better than Super 7. My issue, and I use that term loosely, is that this wouldn't fly in just about any other industry. And it's certainly not limited to Jeremy/Jazwares. Whether it's Super 7 going radio silent for months on a product pre-ordered early this year or Mattel's constant vague non-answers, poor communication seems to be the norm. And there are constantly people defending it - claiming collectors are entitled, or that companies "aren't allowed" to give out information. In other industries, that kind of communication is basically signing your own death certificate. That's a big part of why I love RSC. They constantly update their customers, and provide sometimes frighteningly accurate shipping estimates, and do a great job with collector engagement. But it baffles me that the companies don't do more. Right on. But when you really look at the big picture, you have to remember we're talking about wrestling figures. Not Nikes, not cars, not iPhones, not the next big thing, etc. Target and Wal-Mart for example ... a new series of wrestling figures is like, at the bottom of the list for what's important to them. Hell, maybe bottom of the list for their toy department.
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Post by stc13 on Nov 2, 2020 19:07:48 GMT -5
My issue, and I use that term loosely, is that this wouldn't fly in just about any other industry. And it's certainly not limited to Jeremy/Jazwares. Whether it's Super 7 going radio silent for months on a product pre-ordered early this year or Mattel's constant vague non-answers, poor communication seems to be the norm. And there are constantly people defending it - claiming collectors are entitled, or that companies "aren't allowed" to give out information. In other industries, that kind of communication is basically signing your own death certificate. That's a big part of why I love RSC. They constantly update their customers, and provide sometimes frighteningly accurate shipping estimates, and do a great job with collector engagement. But it baffles me that the companies don't do more. Right on. But when you really look at the big picture, you have to remember we're talking about wrestling figures. Not Nikes, not cars, not iPhones, not the next big thing, etc. Target and Wal-Mart for example ... a new series of wrestling figures is like, at the bottom of the list for what's important to them. Hell, maybe bottom of the list for their toy department. Totally get that. But we're still talking about lines that pull in significant revenue. I work/have worked with a wide range of companies, from Fortune 500's to big idea startups. All I'm saying is that the kind of communication we regularly see would be a death sentence in many industries. You're totally right that it barely registers for Target or Walmart. On the flip side I think you could argue that the lack of better vendor relationships may be (in part) why we see some of these issues. Maybe it's just a different world. But whether you're selling toilet paper or wrestling figures, I do think the way you engage your customers matters. There's a VERY noticeable difference in tone and excitement right now vs a few months ago around this line. And momentum can totally swing the other direction again. But Jeremy talked a lot about transparency, collector engagement, etc early on. Now is where you've got to walk that walk, imo.
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Post by xtremer18 on Nov 2, 2020 19:08:08 GMT -5
Hopefully the wait is a only a month at most - I remember Series 1 got delayed by a month.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Nov 2, 2020 19:58:53 GMT -5
Can one person point me to a post that blames RSC? Our money is ours whether or not we have “real problems” which I’m guessing is sick or dying family members? I’ve seen people complain on facebook and instagram comment sections on Ringside’s posts Well most of the people who respond to RSC on social media are either casual collectors not in the loop or dumb ass kids so of course their social media is gonna be a dumpster fire. No one here has been blaming Ringside at all
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Post by wrestlingfan0815 on Nov 3, 2020 2:17:06 GMT -5
The horrendous distribution of series 1 and the unmentioned delay of series 2 even to the ringside is not a good start to this line.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2020 5:22:55 GMT -5
Where’s Jeremy?
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Post by tommygee15 on Nov 3, 2020 7:10:20 GMT -5
Hiding his head under his pillow.. Uk stores are canceling pre orders of the series 2 after being told they will only have 10% or less of there promised allocation.. Not looking good hopefully ringside don't cancel pre orders
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Post by charabro on Nov 3, 2020 8:05:10 GMT -5
Someone find that thread where that bloke said this line would be bigger than Mattel ahahahah
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Post by bizzclizz4life on Nov 3, 2020 8:33:27 GMT -5
The entitlement of people in this thread is amazing. Consumers aren’t entitled to merch they buy is quite the 2020 take big dog. Crying and whining because you didn't get your plastic wrestling men when you think you deserve them (Um because THERE IS A PANDEMIC GOING ON) is even more the 2020 take.....big dog.
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Post by FUSamBaker on Nov 3, 2020 9:27:28 GMT -5
The entitlement of people in this thread is amazing. Consumers aren’t entitled to merch they buy is quite the 2020 take big dog. I was just about to say 😂😂 Like yeah if I drop my money, yes I’m entitled to product or refund compensation! Man Jazwares needs to change their name to Jazwares because this is nuts! If anyone should be able to stock it should be RSC. Well now we know who is to blame. Pretty sad they are doing everyone like this. It makes them look like other figure companies that brag about having Indie and of Legends figures but takes three years to produce them...not naming names or thinking of anyone specifically. Jazwares really had the audacity to gas us up a series that hit stores (barely), a series that is overdue, products that came without accessories, and chase figures that are at used car prices. But hey it’s a good job in Jeremy’s book 😁
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Post by DeadHeadKing on Nov 3, 2020 9:47:13 GMT -5
It could be a number of things that are causing the delay. But I think it’s unfair to say that the line is dead. It’s still a young figure line, it just needs time, and I’m not blaming it all on the pandemic, but we have to admit it was a huge factor. I think we all knew early on this pandemic was going to cause some problems with shipping and getting these figures in stores. RSC said they got some but not all of their shipments, so it could be something happening with the manufacturing factory and getting them from there to here. It might also be because they had to change the name on the Penta package, Who Know?! I’m not trying to give a pass to Jazzware either. I do think it was a mistake to make them a one store exclusive and making a limited amount of figures for the first series. But from a business standpoint I do understand why they went that route. Do I want the figures now, yes of course I do, but am I going to complain about not getting them now, no! Because there is a reason for the delay and it’s out of my control, so I’m just going to sit patient and wait for them because I know sooner or later they are coming.
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Post by D Rock on Nov 3, 2020 12:57:19 GMT -5
I'm happy with the two Jericho figures I got for now. I'm waiting to see how the production/distribution goes from here before getting more.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2020 13:01:00 GMT -5
Consumers aren’t entitled to merch they buy is quite the 2020 take big dog. Crying and whining because you didn't get your plastic wrestling men when you think you deserve them (Um because THERE IS A PANDEMIC GOING ON) is even more the 2020 take.....big dog. I mean...people do deserve to get what they paid for and to imply they're crying and whining because they don't know when they're going to get something they handed over their money for is a pretty small brained take.
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Post by Bandalero on Nov 3, 2020 13:53:23 GMT -5
the thing that I don't get is that Jazwares Fortnite figures are all over the damn place! I've never seen an "out of stock" sign, much less empty peg walls or shelves for fortnite figures. I honestly thought that's how AEW was going to be, just plenty on the shelves. What gives?
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Post by Old Zeke on Nov 3, 2020 14:31:26 GMT -5
the thing that I don't get is that Jazwares Fortnite figures are all over the damn place! I've never seen an "out of stock" sign, much less empty peg walls or shelves for fortnite figures. I honestly thought that's how AEW was going to be, just plenty on the shelves. What gives? Jeremy's found a shiny new hobby (again) and has lost interest in his own line (again)
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Post by bizzclizz4life on Nov 3, 2020 15:15:13 GMT -5
Crying and whining because you didn't get your plastic wrestling men when you think you deserve them (Um because THERE IS A PANDEMIC GOING ON) is even more the 2020 take.....big dog. I mean...people do deserve to get what they paid for and to imply they're crying and whining because they don't know when they're going to get something they handed over their money for is a pretty small brained take. You'll get what you bought, but act all butt hurt because you didn't get your little plastic wrestling men when YOU think you deserve them is pretty petty. Things happen and WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A ING PANDEMIC. Small brain that, slapnuts.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2020 15:57:07 GMT -5
I mean...people do deserve to get what they paid for and to imply they're crying and whining because they don't know when they're going to get something they handed over their money for is a pretty small brained take. You'll get what you bought, but act all butt hurt because you didn't get your little plastic wrestling men when YOU think you deserve them is pretty petty. Things happen and WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A ING PANDEMIC. Small brain that, slapnuts. Notice how bizzle tries to diminish our grievances by labeling the figs as “little plastic wrestling men”. The “pandemic” argument is tired and stale and has nothing to do with this. If it did Jazwares and your boy Jeremy would come out with updates well before “late October”. We do deserve products we paid at the eta the supplier gave us at the time of the transaction, that’s why we get order confirmations via email . Next time you order your little 5 piece deep fried chicken filler ovals and your sugar and syrup water with ice at the drive thru pay then pull away because you don’t deserve it just bc you want it right then and there!
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