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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 17:25:24 GMT -5
Whatever happened to that story? He was going weeks looking for a partner and then all of a sudden it just dropped.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 17, 2020 17:32:56 GMT -5
Tully said something like he was done finding Spears a partner after his sh*t show at Double or Nothing and then followed up that promo by giving him the glove.
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Post by K5 on Aug 17, 2020 18:07:48 GMT -5
they changed directions. honestly I think they made a good choice, I don't have any interest seeing spears in a throw away tag team.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 18:50:58 GMT -5
I think another factor was them actually acquiring FTR. After the Good Brothers and Marty Scurll (who knows if he led them on or if they played themselves but either way he was supposed to debut on that X-mas show of dynamite where the dark order trampled the elite), I think they probably didn't want to count their FTR chickens until they actually hatched.
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Post by bababooey on Aug 17, 2020 18:57:42 GMT -5
Spears is kind of in a funny situation. Everyone always talks about how much better off people will be in AEW, and how guys that were underutilized in WWE will flourish. Spears seems to be in the same spot he was in in WWE. I often forget he works in AEW.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 18:59:32 GMT -5
Spears is kind of in a funny situation. Everyone always talks about how much better off people will be in AEW, and how guys that were underutilized in WWE will flourish. Spears seems to be in the same spot he was in in WWE. I often forget he works in AEW. Spears is also quite happy in his role here, and has said as much himself. He's part of meaningful stories, has creative control over his character, and still has time to spend with his wife and with his wrestling school (Rona aside of course). Flourishing in his case didn't mean necessarily advancing way up the card, just having a more fulfilling role and control over his fate. |
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Post by bababooey on Aug 17, 2020 19:27:11 GMT -5
Spears is kind of in a funny situation. Everyone always talks about how much better off people will be in AEW, and how guys that were underutilized in WWE will flourish. Spears seems to be in the same spot he was in in WWE. I often forget he works in AEW. Spears is also quite happy in his role here, and has said as much himself. He's part of meaningful stories, has creative control over his character, and still has time to spend with his wife and with his wrestling school (Rona aside of course). Flourishing in his case didn't mean necessarily advancing way up the card, just having a more fulfilling role and control over his fate. I’m sure he’s saying that, but what is his role? I feel like he’s barely on the show. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 19:29:47 GMT -5
Spears is also quite happy in his role here, and has said as much himself. He's part of meaningful stories, has creative control over his character, and still has time to spend with his wife and with his wrestling school (Rona aside of course). Flourishing in his case didn't mean necessarily advancing way up the card, just having a more fulfilling role and control over his fate. I’m sure he’s saying that, but what is his role? I feel like he’s barely on the show. Not an unfair take at all, their roster is too big right now, can definitely say that about a lot of people. That said, they're running the angle right now with him and FTR, Cody, Hangman, etc all teasing who is going to be the new horseman-esque group. Spears is almost certainly a part of the final form given the speech with Tully giving him the glove, and some other teases they've been doing. He has been on dark a fair amount lately at least and picking up some enhancement wins there, so he'll likely be back on dynamite again shortly. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 19:41:57 GMT -5
I’m sure he’s saying that, but what is his role? I feel like he’s barely on the show. Not an unfair take at all, their roster is too big right now, can definitely say that about a lot of people. That said, they're running the angle right now with him and FTR, Cody, Hangman, etc all teasing who is going to be the new horseman-esque group. Spears is almost certainly a part of the final form given the speech with Tully giving him the glove, and some other teases they've been doing. He has been on dark a fair amount lately at least and picking up some enhancement wins there, so he'll likely be back on dynamite again shortly. As talked about in another thread, AEW has done a pretty good job with long-term storytelling, despite a lot of fumbles, lately. This angle, though, is one where they clearly needed something for him to do, and then someone else had another idea, and his role seemed to be undefinable. What's unfortunate is that he had a lot of steam heading into All Out, and easily could have gained it back with a few big wins. Losing to Cody proved to be a good story, as the Cody character flourished, but they dropped the ball with a talented guy in Sean Spears. |
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Post by bababooey on Aug 17, 2020 19:42:02 GMT -5
I’m sure he’s saying that, but what is his role? I feel like he’s barely on the show. Not an unfair take at all, their roster is too big right now, can definitely say that about a lot of people. That said, they're running the angle right now with him and FTR, Cody, Hangman, etc all teasing who is going to be the new horseman-esque group. Spears is almost certainly a part of the final form given the speech with Tully giving him the glove, and some other teases they've been doing. He has been on dark a fair amount lately at least and picking up some enhancement wins there, so he'll likely be back on dynamite again shortly. Fair enough. That kinda goes back to the other thread where it was discussed how stuff happens on Dark and other stuff that isn’t followed up on on Dynamite. I can honestly say that I had no clue Spears was doing anything, as I only watch Dynamite. |
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Post by stc13 on Aug 18, 2020 10:40:58 GMT -5
I’m sure he’s saying that, but what is his role? I feel like he’s barely on the show. Not an unfair take at all, their roster is too big right now, can definitely say that about a lot of people. That said, they're running the angle right now with him and FTR, Cody, Hangman, etc all teasing who is going to be the new horseman-esque group. Spears is almost certainly a part of the final form given the speech with Tully giving him the glove, and some other teases they've been doing. He has been on dark a fair amount lately at least and picking up some enhancement wins there, so he'll likely be back on dynamite again shortly. I don't feel like the roster is too big, but the issue is more how they're structuring shows. With Cody's open challenge, there are consistently 3 15+ matches each week. That's half your show right there, and it makes it tough to find places to fit in other talent. But I don't see the roster size as an issue overall. You need enough depth that you can avoid repeating matchups and keep things fresh. And the heavy focus on tag wrestling is going to mean that some of the lower card singles guys are going to be less visible than we're used to in singles dominated promotions. I just haven't seen anything from Spears that has intrigued me since the product launched. It's possible maybe AEW brass doesn't either. He was put in a pretty prominent spot early on, feuding with Cody and hooking up with Tully. But it didn't seem like there was much crowd response, and I think guys like MJF and Darby hooked on the with crowd faster than expected and shot up the depth chart. That's going to be the road forward, I think. Some guys will absolutely take off in new environment. Some won't. In sports, sometimes the change of scenery trade works and a guy comes into his own in a new environment. Sometime it doesn't change a thing. As time goes on, I think we'll a fair number of the original signings cycled out as talent becomes available and they're able to trade up and AEW has more money to work with. That's not a bad thing, imo. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 11:55:53 GMT -5
That's going to be the road forward, I think. Some guys will absolutely take off in new environment. Some won't. In sports, sometimes the change of scenery trade works and a guy comes into his own in a new environment. Sometime it doesn't change a thing. As time goes on, I think we'll a fair number of the original signings cycled out as talent becomes available and they're able to trade up and AEW has more money to work with. That's not a bad thing, imo. I know I'm kinda swerving the topic here, but this is a great point. It's not a bad thing at all. Doesn't even mean the door is closed forever for a return either for some of them. I do think they have some original signings (besides the obvious evp crew) that will be around potentially as long as they have careers (MJF, Jungle Boy, a couple others), but a fair amount of the current roster won't be around the company forever, and that's totally ok. No sports team or business stays the same forever. |
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Post by stc13 on Aug 18, 2020 12:48:38 GMT -5
That's going to be the road forward, I think. Some guys will absolutely take off in new environment. Some won't. In sports, sometimes the change of scenery trade works and a guy comes into his own in a new environment. Sometime it doesn't change a thing. As time goes on, I think we'll a fair number of the original signings cycled out as talent becomes available and they're able to trade up and AEW has more money to work with. That's not a bad thing, imo. I know I'm kinda swerving the topic here, but this is a great point. It's not a bad thing at all. Doesn't even mean the door is closed forever for a return either for some of them. I do think they have some original signings (besides the obvious evp crew) that will be around potentially as long as they have careers (MJF, Jungle Boy, a couple others), but a fair amount of the current roster won't be around the company forever, and that's totally ok. No sports team or business stays the same forever. Not to stray too far OT, but totally agree. I think there were some guys who clearly outpaced expectations early on - Darby, Sammy, and Scorpio being the biggest in my mind. Some others - Jannella, Jimmy Hacov (before his release), Spears, and some others were given time but just didn't seem to catch on. You can't, and shouldn't, just hoarding talent for talent's take. Some may stick around simply because of politics (Luther) or because they'll work for cheap. But some turnover is healthy and needed. WWE has felt so stale to me for the last few years because the main roster hasn't really changed and NXT callups have been fewer and fewer. And if Meltzer's rumor that nearly all of the WWE roster has reached out to AEW in some capacity, you can't hang onto a lower card guy out of loyalty when there is a chance to trade up to someone who may be a better performer. The real question becomes how do you walk that line between having a good backstage environment and making smart business decisions. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 13:03:39 GMT -5
If Tyler Breeze was available he would be the perfect choice. I understand they have a wrestling school together.
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