ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕠 𝕂𝕚𝕝𝕝
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Post by ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕠 𝕂𝕚𝕝𝕝 on Aug 24, 2020 9:29:40 GMT -5
I don't know what this has to do about "transparency" and I think its more to due with just some general questions you have? Jeremy is a busy dude and doesn't answer all of the questions he receives. Maybe compare it to tweeting John Cena about his favorite breakfast food. Maybe he'll see it?
Otherwise, these were all just questions that anyone on the board would be happy to help you get to the bottom of. "Transparency" has nothing to do with it. It seems like you made this thread to play 'gotchya.'
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Post by stc13 on Aug 24, 2020 9:58:27 GMT -5
Do you think all 1,500 chase figures are in circulation right now? I myself think they may have put 5-10% out there and are waiting for one to go on the bay to check for value. Borderline business ethics violation if you ask me! I don't think that they're sitting in a warehouse somewhere, or anything. They just were produced for a different run; it appears RSC got the cases with them, but Wal-Mart didn't. You, and most people, are probably not going to get one, and that's likely by design. It keeps interest in the line, and bodies coming into the store (which, during a pandemic, is the only moral issue I have, but, we'd have to crack down on everyone else, too) asking/looking for the line. They know how to keep the line healthy, so I think this was probably the right decision, as you, and others, are frustrated with the production numbers; that means that it's working! I would disagree that it's unethical; you could argue immoral, sure, but it's certainly a common business practice. The idea of having A and B assortments, or hobby and retail variations is far from a new concept, and is standard business practice in a lot of industries. I think it's a huge leap to claim that it's immoral or unethical. It would be a different story if they were falsely advertising, or making any claims to value. But as far as I've seen there haven't been any claims about the chase figures beyond production runs or advertising for them specifically. You're talking about 1,500 pieces worldwide. Even with a truly limited release, there would be maybe one or two of these available in any major metro area. And the production run has been higher than I would have expected. These will be available, but as others have noted, there are going to be far fewer than 1,500 that hit the secondary market. Collectors are going to get lucky and find and keep the figures, sell offline, or buy and hold. My guess is that maybe 50% of these see the secondary market in the coming months. There's plenty of room for debate over whether these should be more widely available, or the idea of limited run chase figures in general. But whether we like it or not, it's going to accomplish the intent of drawing a buzz and attention to the line.
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Robz PippinRoad
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Post by Robz PippinRoad on Aug 24, 2020 10:43:07 GMT -5
Very Cool
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Post by PJ on Aug 24, 2020 11:46:22 GMT -5
I am sure there’s going to be less MIB of these in the future as well, because I am sure a few will be picked up by parents just buying their kids a Cody or Jericho not knowing about chase figures are. And some collectors will open them as well. I know if I find one I will be opening it.
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Post by NYdream™ on Aug 24, 2020 12:16:02 GMT -5
Very Cool Oh man. Gonna be a lot of salty people on here since he got those free lol.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Aug 24, 2020 12:18:51 GMT -5
Very Cool 🙃
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Post by WOOOOOO on Aug 24, 2020 13:20:16 GMT -5
Are those figure cases on ringside yet for the new aew boxes?
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Aug 24, 2020 13:21:52 GMT -5
Are those figure cases on ringside yet for the new aew boxes? not yet
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Aug 24, 2020 13:29:14 GMT -5
I don't get why this thread is even a thing. We know what the deal is with the chase figures. They didn't go out in the initial cases or the shippers to Walmart, they will be in the revision cases which will also include Brandi Rhodes.
RSC accidentally let a few chases slip out in the confusion of rushing out the shipping of the pre-orders, but they are holding the rest to sell later individually.
It's pretty cut and dry, honestly.
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jase84
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Post by jase84 on Aug 24, 2020 17:20:07 GMT -5
I’m fine knowing I’ll most likely never come across one of these, but the only thing I don’t really like is that the figs have their own number in the series. From other lines I’ve collected usually a rare or chase is the same number as the regular or those figs don’t have a number at all. Not sure if this is the norm in wrestling figs as I haven’t collected them in quite some time (‘03-‘05).
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Post by NYdream™ on Aug 24, 2020 19:13:11 GMT -5
They gave Bryan one of each too so there’s 2 less each lol.
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Post by NYdream™ on Aug 24, 2020 19:14:02 GMT -5
I’m fine knowing I’ll most likely never come across one of these, but the only thing I don’t really like is that the figs have their own number in the series. From other lines I’ve collected usually a rare or chase is the same number as the regular or those figs don’t have a number at all. Not sure if this is the norm in wrestling figs as I haven’t collected them in quite some time (‘03-‘05). That does suck to me because I’m gonna try and complete the collection so I’m gonna have to hunt down them all since they are numbered as a part of the series.
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Post by LaParka on Aug 24, 2020 19:29:35 GMT -5
So the chases are numbered differently, there will definitely be the obsessive completist collectors that will need to over pay to have a full run. I'm not going crazy for any of them If i come across a Jericho I'd get and probably open it.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Aug 24, 2020 23:34:09 GMT -5
It’s better having separate numbers because it makes it easier to keep track of everything released
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banthafett
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Post by banthafett on Aug 25, 2020 8:25:02 GMT -5
If I found one in the wild, great. If not don't care. But I will say that I'm not a fan of Rsc pulling and charging more.
You guys would be up in arms if walmart pulled them out and put them on a separate peg at a super high price.
The whole idea (not talking what Jeremy believes) of chase versions is to get your butt into a store and see if you can find something rare at the same price as the regular ones.
So if you ordered a case, wouldn't you be pissed off if you found out that it was ripped open already to see what was in it.
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Post by stc13 on Aug 25, 2020 8:37:41 GMT -5
If I found one in the wild, great. If not don't care. But I will say that I'm not a fan of Rsc pulling and charging more. You guys would be up in arms if walmart pulled them out and put them on a separate peg at a super high price. The whole idea (not talking what Jeremy believes) of chase versions is to get your butt into a store and see if you can find something rare at the same price as the regular ones. So if you ordered a case, wouldn't you be pissed off if you found out that it was ripped open already to see what was in it. Not seeing where the logic holds up. RSC is a specialty retailer. There was never a scenario in a million years where they were going to randomly send the chase figures out at SRP. Lumping them in with Walmart or Target is apples to oranges. I also don't expect Walmart or Target to airship figures to make them available earlier. You can't expect a specialty business to operate the same way as a mass retail chain. You get specialized service for a niche product, and the tradeoff is that comes with a cost. The idea of generating foot traffic to stores is a pretty recent idea to combat the growth of online retail. Chase/variant figures long predate that. It's always been about finding ways to create demand for lesser selling figures, generating secondary market buzz and demand for the product, and to cultivate that collector market. Pretty sure the idea got lifted from the variant cover craze in comics in the 90's. And there's a huge difference between ordering a specific figure (or set) and a sealed case. As far as I know, nobody sells sealed cases of this product. If you order a sealed case, you should get a sealed case. But nobody is doing that. They're getting exactly what they ordered.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Aug 25, 2020 11:06:37 GMT -5
Heh.
Honestly, the Cody is kind of cool, but neither of these chases so far are interesting enough for me to hunt them down with any sort of of determination. Now that I've got the three I wanted from the first set, I might give these a glance if I'm in a store, but otherwise, I'm good.
On series 2, I'd probably be a little bummed if I got anything but the regular Moxley, as I love that debut look.
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xtremebadass
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Post by xtremebadass on Aug 25, 2020 12:18:15 GMT -5
RSC should flat out communicate how much each chase will cost and then do a raffle and the winners are allowed to purchase them opposed to just putting them up randomly.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Aug 25, 2020 13:06:05 GMT -5
RSC should flat out communicate how much each chase will cost and then do a raffle and the winners are allowed to purchase them opposed to just putting them up randomly. Somehow you found a way to make a system I hate even more than what they are going to do
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Only1TH2
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Post by Only1TH2 on Aug 25, 2020 13:40:41 GMT -5
RSC should flat out communicate how much each chase will cost and then do a raffle and the winners are allowed to purchase them opposed to just putting them up randomly. Somehow you found a way to make a system I hate even more than what they are going to do Agreed. If there was a thumbs down button I woulda pressed it 3 times! Give us a time or don’t at this point I don’t care lol My only request is 1 per customer! 2 at MAXXXXXXX if RSC really needs the money.
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