|
Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Jul 10, 2020 9:42:27 GMT -5
i havent had too many issues, sometimes a loose joint or torso. but ive definitely noticed the plastic in recent years has gotten a LOT lighter and cheaper feeling. i dont know how kids play with these things and not destroy them after 1 match I said this when the first Bobby Roode basic came out years ago and people thought I was crazy. Pics didn’t do justice, but when I rotated his arm the shoulder joint took a chunk out of the shoulder ball.
|
|
|
Post by PJ on Jul 10, 2020 11:06:23 GMT -5
::sigh:: if it isn't distribution, its "quality control"... copy and pasted from a google search... Quality Control The quality of toy action figures is controlled throughout the manufacturing process. As the molds are created and tested at the production sites, samples are sent back to the manufacturer for approval. Then a series of stringent safety and quality tests must be conducted to ensure the figures are safe for small children and that they will not fall apart during play. A month or two is required to test each figure's articulation many times and to stress test the packaging. Transit tests are used where they actually ship a toy in its box. Additional tests involve dropping the package on the floor and bouncing it around to replicate rough handling it may receive before it arrives on the store shelf. Read more: www.madehow.com/Volume-6/Action-Figure.html#ixzz6RkuGDky4quality control isn't them checking each and every figure. its a broad process that is done more before the full line is produced. But how are these toys so poorly made, like I never had a jakks figure or even a mattel figure before 2017/18 with any issues, suddenly it's every figure or every other figure that has an issue. Did you never have a Jakks figure that used the Hogan tall boots mold? That boot had a malfunction from day one. Every single figure I owned since RA series 1 that used that boot mold had a right ankle that couldn’t hold to support the weight of the figure. But that said when it comes to QC no company was worse that DC Direct. Up until a few years ago when they switched plastics used (around the time of the BtAS line) their figures used a real brittle clear plastic for their joint pins at would just break over time from the stress of supporting the figure’s weight on the shelves. I don’t know how many figures I found broken when I would go to dust my shelves. Hell, two weeks ago I went to dust off my DCD Hush figure line and Harley, Poison Ivy and Catwoman all had broken elbow pins since the last time I had dusted that shelf.
|
|
Jackass Pacific
Main Eventer
WF 20 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 22, 2001 22:58:55 GMT -5
Posts: 3,107
|
Post by Jackass Pacific on Jul 10, 2020 11:23:44 GMT -5
::sigh:: if it isn't distribution, its "quality control"... copy and pasted from a google search... Quality Control The quality of toy action figures is controlled throughout the manufacturing process. As the molds are created and tested at the production sites, samples are sent back to the manufacturer for approval. Then a series of stringent safety and quality tests must be conducted to ensure the figures are safe for small children and that they will not fall apart during play. A month or two is required to test each figure's articulation many times and to stress test the packaging. Transit tests are used where they actually ship a toy in its box. Additional tests involve dropping the package on the floor and bouncing it around to replicate rough handling it may receive before it arrives on the store shelf. Read more: www.madehow.com/Volume-6/Action-Figure.html#ixzz6RkuGDky4quality control isn't them checking each and every figure. its a broad process that is done more before the full line is produced. But how are these toys so poorly made, like I never had a jakks figure or even a mattel figure before 2017/18 with any issues, suddenly it's every figure or every other figure that has an issue. they're mass produced action figures. its gonna happen. could be any number of reasons and frankly, something tells me that the underpaid factory workers really don't care if johnny's toy isn't perfect quality
|
|
|
Post by newgenandy on Jul 10, 2020 15:19:40 GMT -5
My kids and I have 3 x 30 litre boxes overflowing of Mattel figures. None have ever broke apart from the USA warrior which comes with John cena in a double pack. Considering that’s out of 100s of figure’s which a 6 year old smashes as hard as he can together and off rings etc that’s good going
|
|
|
Post by newgenandy on Jul 10, 2020 15:25:08 GMT -5
::sigh:: if it isn't distribution, its "quality control"... copy and pasted from a google search... Quality Control The quality of toy action figures is controlled throughout the manufacturing process. As the molds are created and tested at the production sites, samples are sent back to the manufacturer for approval. Then a series of stringent safety and quality tests must be conducted to ensure the figures are safe for small children and that they will not fall apart during play. A month or two is required to test each figure's articulation many times and to stress test the packaging. Transit tests are used where they actually ship a toy in its box. Additional tests involve dropping the package on the floor and bouncing it around to replicate rough handling it may receive before it arrives on the store shelf. Read more: www.madehow.com/Volume-6/Action-Figure.html#ixzz6RkuGDky4quality control isn't them checking each and every figure. its a broad process that is done more before the full line is produced. But how are these toys so poorly made, like I never had a jakks figure or even a mattel figure before 2017/18 with any issues, suddenly it's every figure or every other figure that has an issue. They are not poorly made, they are (relatively speaking) lower priced toys not collector art pieces
|
|
|
Post by marino13 on Jul 10, 2020 16:02:17 GMT -5
Only time I had a figure break as I was opening it was a Jakks DX Triple H. Hasn't happened with Mattel yet.
As far as paint apps, the last time I had a major issue it was with a Sasha and it was before the FX printing.
|
|
|
Post by JC Motors on Jul 10, 2020 16:13:59 GMT -5
The only figure I ever had a problem with was my B7 Michelle McCool figure where part of her lower leg was on backwards. Fellow member pjm286 fixed it for me
|
|
|
Post by SmithyPlayz on Jul 11, 2020 4:13:26 GMT -5
But how are these toys so poorly made, like I never had a jakks figure or even a mattel figure before 2017/18 with any issues, suddenly it's every figure or every other figure that has an issue. Did you never have a Jakks figure that used the Hogan tall boots mold? That boot had a malfunction from day one. Every single figure I owned since RA series 1 that used that boot mold had a right ankle that couldn’t hold to support the weight of the figure. But that said when it comes to QC no company was worse that DC Direct. Up until a few years ago when they switched plastics used (around the time of the BtAS line) their figures used a real brittle clear plastic for their joint pins at would just break over time from the stress of supporting the figure’s weight on the shelves. I don’t know how many figures I found broken when I would go to dust my shelves. Hell, two weeks ago I went to dust off my DCD Hush figure line and Harley, Poison Ivy and Catwoman all had broken elbow pins since the last time I had dusted that shelf. I mean I can't say that I paid attention to that sort of detail as a kid, but I don't remember a figure breaking as soon as I opened him up. I get it, these figures have more articulation than the figures then so yes there will be a few mishaps but it does feel like every figure. I bought a BP IIconics, Entrance Greats Elias and other figures where there legs or arms are completely stuck. I don't mind a loose joint but for £20 I feel like it should at least work as intended
|
|
|
Post by SmithyPlayz on Jul 11, 2020 4:15:17 GMT -5
But how are these toys so poorly made, like I never had a jakks figure or even a mattel figure before 2017/18 with any issues, suddenly it's every figure or every other figure that has an issue. They are not poorly made, they are (relatively speaking) lower priced toys not collector art pieces if they don't work as intended, imo they're poorly made. It's obviously not every figure maybe I'm just getting seriously unlucky but I think 90% of the figures I've bought in the past 2 years other than Ricochet, Tucker, Mabel and a couple of others have been fine but the others have a lot of issues and again the articulation is better so I expect a few more problems I went years without any problem not thinking a figure would break then all of a sudden it's every other figure
|
|
|
Post by Yayo on Jul 11, 2020 5:18:41 GMT -5
Yeah joints are awful on these figures lately. My top talents Roman came out of the box with a right leg so loose it’s barely hanging onto his body, if you shake it he looks like a helicopter lmao. Got a E76 Strowman with an incredibly loose left arm as well, thankfully that was easy to fix with a rubber band. Top talents Rollins from 18 I bought a couple months ago MOC, and his torso was extremely flippy. And some figures have left arms that can barely articulate. I stopped collecting back in 2018, and had very few problems back then, but since I started collecting again 1 in every 2 or 3 figures has had some sort of issue.
|
|
Jackass Pacific
Main Eventer
WF 20 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 22, 2001 22:58:55 GMT -5
Posts: 3,107
|
Post by Jackass Pacific on Jul 11, 2020 20:57:13 GMT -5
They are not poorly made, they are (relatively speaking) lower priced toys not collector art pieces if they don't work as intended, imo they're poorly made. It's obviously not every figure maybe I'm just getting seriously unlucky but I think 90% of the figures I've bought in the past 2 years other than Ricochet, Tucker, Mabel and a couple of others have been fine but the others have a lot of issues and again the articulation is better so I expect a few more problems I went years without any problem not thinking a figure would break then all of a sudden it's every other figure if 90% of the figure you buy have issues, why do you keep buying them? i would've moved on from the line long before that with the thoughts of "wow, the quality sucks. i'm gonna stop giving them my money"
|
|
|
Post by SmithyPlayz on Jul 12, 2020 6:39:34 GMT -5
if they don't work as intended, imo they're poorly made. It's obviously not every figure maybe I'm just getting seriously unlucky but I think 90% of the figures I've bought in the past 2 years other than Ricochet, Tucker, Mabel and a couple of others have been fine but the others have a lot of issues and again the articulation is better so I expect a few more problems I went years without any problem not thinking a figure would break then all of a sudden it's every other figure if 90% of the figure you buy have issues, why do you keep buying them? i would've moved on from the line long before that with the thoughts of "wow, the quality sucks. i'm gonna stop giving them my money" because I like collecting and there's nothing else to really collect. Again why not find out why the quality has gone downhill rather than blaming the person buying the product
|
|
Jackass Pacific
Main Eventer
WF 20 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 22, 2001 22:58:55 GMT -5
Posts: 3,107
|
Post by Jackass Pacific on Jul 12, 2020 9:36:12 GMT -5
if 90% of the figure you buy have issues, why do you keep buying them? i would've moved on from the line long before that with the thoughts of "wow, the quality sucks. i'm gonna stop giving them my money" because I like collecting and there's nothing else to really collect. Again why not find out why the quality has gone downhill rather than blaming the person buying the product you can collect literally anything in the world. but if you wanna keep buying toys that you think have crappy quality, well...go for it
|
|
|
Post by shanieomaniac on Jul 12, 2020 23:24:39 GMT -5
Breakage has never been an issue for me. I pull the figures out, I stand them on shelf, BOOM done.
However, there are two problems which bug the snot out of me and I have several of each.
1. Offset paint apps 2. misshapen joints.
The first issue is well chronicled here, so I won't go into it. The second? Well, I have two separate figures, an AJ Lee and a Shane, where the hand is sticking out of the socket by about half a centimeter. Also, I very rarely find figures with fully functional ankle joints. They're either stuck or too loose. There's no in-between. And also, there's just so SO many instances of the feet looking like they are attached with a stick. It's incredibly frustrating.
Outside of these issues, I have no problems with QC. The figures are all standing on a shelf in the corner. I don't need them to be perfect, I just need them to stand there looking vaguely pretty. When they fail at that? THEN there's a problem!
|
|
Bpatrick
Superstar
Joined on: Jun 3, 2013 23:55:55 GMT -5
Posts: 961
|
Post by Bpatrick on Jul 13, 2020 0:12:06 GMT -5
I’ve yet to have a Mattel break. The worst I’ve dealt with was my 1-2-3 Kid has a floppy ab crunch. I have gotten a few with bad paint applications.
It’s funny because I really associate the bad figures with Jacks as the only figures I had that has issues were some of their early figures. I had to return the Bret and Razor I had gotten in Series 1 due to different issues they had when opened and never got them replaced. My Series 1 HBK and Series 2 Owen had a head pop off and floppy arm respectively despite my cautious play as a kid.
|
|
JP
Main Eventer
Joined on: Jun 24, 2019 13:46:50 GMT -5
Posts: 2,997
|
Post by JP on Jul 13, 2020 4:59:21 GMT -5
The only real QC problem I've ever had was E47 Kane's leg snapping right out of the package. To be fair, that was a particularly cold day and he'd been sat in the back of a delivery truck all day freezing off his little Kaneinites.
Ever since then, whenever it's cold, I usually leave figures a couple of hours to open.
(I know all of the above makes me sound mad - and you're right, I am!)
|
|
|
Post by disorder on Jul 13, 2020 8:06:27 GMT -5
I still want to know how some of you animals open these things.
Do you guys just tear Into them all violently?
|
|
|
Post by shanieomaniac on Jul 13, 2020 8:39:56 GMT -5
I still want to know how some of you animals open these things. Do you guys just tear Into them all violently? I usually find a neighborhood dog to chew on the packaging for awhile, before going after it with a hacksaw. No, in all honesty? Oyster knife. i open almost all my figures with an oyster knife. It works remarkably well.
|
|
sandeep
Main Eventer
Joined on: Dec 2, 2019 0:03:08 GMT -5
Posts: 1,963
|
Post by sandeep on Jul 13, 2020 9:04:11 GMT -5
The only real QC problem I've ever had was E47 Kane's leg snapping right out of the package. To be fair, that was a particularly cold day and he'd been sat in the back of a delivery truck all day freezing off his little Kaneinites. Ever since then, whenever it's cold, I usually leave figures a couple of hours to open. (I know all of the above makes me sound mad - and you're right, I am!) Seth injured him lol.
|
|
Deleted
Joined on: Mar 28, 2024 17:46:07 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 13:46:18 GMT -5
Jakks never had these kind of QC issues, but Jakks also was a far inferior product in terms of deco, accuracy, accessories, and detail. Mattel is definitely having a lot of QC issues lately, though, possibly due to how much they’re producing and selling. Jakks had the shoulder problems in the RA figures from 06 onward when they replaced the t on the end of the shoulder joint with a flimsy sliver of rubber inside the torso. I lost a lot of figures to that sh*t.
|
|