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Post by Yambag Jones on Jun 14, 2020 11:45:55 GMT -5
Is anyone taking bets on how long Bruce will last? He's going to be sweating heavy every time a quarterly earnings call is about to happen. I know Prichard has been at this a long time, but how can he handle a workload this big, even with a creative team under him? As long as Vince thinks he’s doing good, that’s all that matters.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jun 15, 2020 15:57:13 GMT -5
Apparently tonight's Raw is pre-taped, so any sweeping changes from Prichard & creative will start next week
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Post by rkmo: Aviso de Diez Meses on Jun 15, 2020 17:25:54 GMT -5
Apparently tonight's Raw is pre-taped, so any sweeping changes from Prichard & creative will start next week I've read the opposite, that tonight's show is live (or close to it) and there will be noticeable shifts with one expected "unexpected" angle.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2020 19:26:21 GMT -5
Paul Heyman is the Matilda of wwe. If you saw that movie from 96 you’ll know what I mean.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jun 15, 2020 19:38:20 GMT -5
Apparently tonight's Raw is pre-taped, so any sweeping changes from Prichard & creative will start next week I've read the opposite, that tonight's show is live (or close to it) and there will be noticeable shifts with one expected "unexpected" angle. If that’s the case, we’ll find out sooner rather than later who’s a Vince guy and who was Heyman’s.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2020 21:15:54 GMT -5
They should fire all of their creative and should be ashamed of how dull they've made their product
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Post by wheeljack83 on Jun 18, 2020 21:29:37 GMT -5
To be perfectly honest, I don't think Heyman did a very good job. I credit him for trying to push some new talent and giving some names a chance to shine, but that's about it.
Look at the awful Mike & Maria Kanellis pregnancy angle. Also, Lana/Rusev/Lashley breakup angle, where Liv Morgan was made into Lana's mistress. I'm sorry all that booking was garbage. They brought back Liv Morgan to be the "other woman" for Lana. Meaning Lana was having an affair with Morgan while Lana was married to Rusev. How does that make Liv Morgan the face in all of this?
Now, I realize McMahon likely had some input, but there was no reason to book The Fiend in a Hell in a Cell match against Rollins. They booked themselves into a corner where they had a Cell match and didn't want either guy to lose, so they ended up doing a BS DQ/NC finish for a f'n Hell in a Cell match.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jun 19, 2020 7:43:17 GMT -5
To be perfectly honest, I don't think Heyman did a very good job. I credit him for trying to push some new talent and giving some names a chance to shine, but that's about it. Look at the awful Mike & Maria Kanellis pregnancy angle. Also, Lana/Rusev/Lashley breakup angle, where Liv Morgan was made into Lana's mistress. I'm sorry all that booking was garbage. They brought back Liv Morgan to be the "other woman" for Lana. Meaning Lana was having an affair with Morgan while Lana was married to Rusev. How does that make Liv Morgan the face in all of this? Now, I realize McMahon likely had some input, but there was no reason to book The Fiend in a Hell in a Cell match against Rollins. They booked themselves into a corner where they had a Cell match and didn't want either guy to lose, so they ended up doing a BS DQ/NC finish for a f'n Hell in a Cell match. It’s Vince’s company. Everything goes through him and he has the final say about what happens. Vince hired Bischoff & Heyman to be the fall guys when ratings fell even further to appease stockholders. Both are now gone. Prichard will be fired when the ratings don’t improve (peep the SD ratings since he took over) and Vince will hire new straw men to burn for his sh*tty booking. Heyman is far from a perfect booker (I still can’t believe the Lashley/Lana stuff), but he was the best option WWE had. That place is full of ass kissers and yes men who are afraid to speak up. Heyman at least knew how to work around Vince.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jun 19, 2020 7:45:04 GMT -5
I made a comment about how Vince shouldn’t have guys like Ricochet & Cedric on the roster if Vince refuses to use them. It got removed.
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Post by wheeljack83 on Jun 19, 2020 9:22:30 GMT -5
To be perfectly honest, I don't think Heyman did a very good job. I credit him for trying to push some new talent and giving some names a chance to shine, but that's about it. Look at the awful Mike & Maria Kanellis pregnancy angle. Also, Lana/Rusev/Lashley breakup angle, where Liv Morgan was made into Lana's mistress. I'm sorry all that booking was garbage. They brought back Liv Morgan to be the "other woman" for Lana. Meaning Lana was having an affair with Morgan while Lana was married to Rusev. How does that make Liv Morgan the face in all of this? Now, I realize McMahon likely had some input, but there was no reason to book The Fiend in a Hell in a Cell match against Rollins. They booked themselves into a corner where they had a Cell match and didn't want either guy to lose, so they ended up doing a BS DQ/NC finish for a f'n Hell in a Cell match. It’s Vince’s company. Everything goes through him and he has the final say about what happens. Vince hired Bischoff & Heyman to be the fall guys when ratings fell even further to appease stockholders. Both are now gone. Prichard will be fired when the ratings don’t improve (peep the SD ratings since he took over) and Vince will hire new straw men to burn for his sh*tty booking. Heyman is far from a perfect booker (I still can’t believe the Lashley/Lana stuff), but he was the best option WWE had. That place is full of ass kissers and yes men who are afraid to speak up. Heyman at least knew how to work around Vince. If it's that obvious, then Heyman, being in this business as long as he has, should be smart enough to know this. It's not like hasn't butted heads or hasn't been fired by Vinnie Mac before.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jun 19, 2020 9:30:10 GMT -5
It’s Vince’s company. Everything goes through him and he has the final say about what happens. Vince hired Bischoff & Heyman to be the fall guys when ratings fell even further to appease stockholders. Both are now gone. Prichard will be fired when the ratings don’t improve (peep the SD ratings since he took over) and Vince will hire new straw men to burn for his sh*tty booking. Heyman is far from a perfect booker (I still can’t believe the Lashley/Lana stuff), but he was the best option WWE had. That place is full of ass kissers and yes men who are afraid to speak up. Heyman at least knew how to work around Vince. If it's that obvious, then Heyman, being in this business as long as he has, should be smart enough to know this. It's not like hasn't butted heads or hasn't been fired by Vinnie Mac before. I believe Heyman knew exactly what he was getting into and cashed in 2 paychecks for a year.
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Post by k5 on Jun 19, 2020 10:53:22 GMT -5
If it's that obvious, then Heyman, being in this business as long as he has, should be smart enough to know this. It's not like hasn't butted heads or hasn't been fired by Vinnie Mac before. I believe Heyman knew exactly what he was getting into and cashed in 2 paychecks for a year. exactly, Heyman’s nail got hammered down long ago and he is strictly a company man and has been for years now.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jun 23, 2020 11:37:18 GMT -5
I totally forgot about this. The more things change, the more they stay the same. How many of these points apply even more now? Sorry for the low quality.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 11:59:23 GMT -5
I totally forgot about this. The more things change, the more they stay the same. How many of these points apply even more now? Sorry for the low quality. This is my favorite Smackdown moment ever!
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Post by marino13 on Jun 24, 2020 16:05:34 GMT -5
I know this is mostly just a thread to complain now, but I'd like to add that the last two weeks worth of RAW have been enjoyable. It doesn't appear that anything drastic was dropped or revamped, just felt like the show gelled together a lil better.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jun 24, 2020 16:53:50 GMT -5
I know this is mostly just a thread to complain now, but I'd like to add that the last two weeks worth of RAW have been enjoyable. It doesn't appear that anything drastic was dropped or revamped, just felt like the show gelled together a lil better. I hope that continues!
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