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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Mar 23, 2020 23:21:18 GMT -5
The longer this goes on, the more worried I become, not so much the virus, but society. Today’s society, especially here in America, isn’t built for all of the necessary restrictions. The more events are canceled, the more business are shut down, and the more areas invoking “stay at home” orders, the more society is going to rebel. I hope it doesn’t get to the level of riots and anarchy, but if coronavirus is going to be around for as long as projected we could get there sooner than later, and that’s frightening. When nobody can answer, “when will things be back to normal?” Fear comes to the forefront. The unknown is one of the biggest fears people have. Everyone just be smart and only go out for essentials. Things will get worse before they get better, but they will get better. I said in my first post in this thread everything happening was an overreaction yet a justified one, and I still stand by that statement. However, when it’s all over and we’re back to normal, we’ll know the restrictions were the right call. Based on the reports from China, the first cluster of infected people likely happened somewhere in November. So that's 4+ months, and they're still battling it. I can't envision the state of emergency in the US being something that's over this spring.
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Post by rkmo: The FOCUS Method on Mar 24, 2020 0:13:27 GMT -5
The longer this goes on, the more worried I become, not so much the virus, but society. Today’s society, especially here in America, isn’t built for all of the necessary restrictions. The more events are canceled, the more business are shut down, and the more areas invoking “stay at home” orders, the more society is going to rebel. I hope it doesn’t get to the level of riots and anarchy, but if coronavirus is going to be around for as long as projected we could get there sooner than later, and that’s frightening. When nobody can answer, “when will things be back to normal?” Fear comes to the forefront. The unknown is one of the biggest fears people have. Everyone just be smart and only go out for essentials. Things will get worse before they get better, but they will get better. I said in my first post in this thread everything happening was an overreaction yet a justified one, and I still stand by that statement. However, when it’s all over and we’re back to normal, we’ll know the restrictions were the right call. Based on the reports from China, the first cluster of infected people likely happened somewhere in November. So that's 4+ months, and they're still battling it. I can't envision the state of emergency in the US being something that's over this spring. Forget that, we need them stock market numbers back up. All the elderly are ready to die to save our economy, ya know...
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Mar 24, 2020 5:20:08 GMT -5
Here's a reality check for anyone thinking that they can go to a beach or a picnic with no consideration of our country's current state. These are doctors and nurses from Italy where the pandemic is raging.
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Post by Valbroski on Mar 24, 2020 10:19:57 GMT -5
My office is still open on a part time basis. Management sends out a group text and email about how strict they are going to be about social distancing and people still are on top of each other.
Like stop hovering over my desk showing me crapon your phone.
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Mar 24, 2020 11:49:39 GMT -5
Most non essential services in Canada have closed. Gas stations, grocery stores remain open. Fast food places are currently operating only 6am-8pm but they'll be next to close. My wife is a teacher and it appears she's done work now until at least September of next school year. Done going to the classroom that is. She's expected to work from home but there's been no directives given yet.
My provincial government announced that liquor and marijuana stores will remain open over concerns that closing these services may result in an uptake in domestic and child abuse cases. A harsh reality here on the South Shore of Nova Scotia.
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Post by charabro on Mar 24, 2020 12:04:56 GMT -5
Whey thats my firm shut down for 12 weeks, tho am in twice next week for essential work for the waterboard, best make a start on these tinnies eh
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Mar 24, 2020 13:22:14 GMT -5
I work for UPS. Someone started an online petition demanding we get hazard pay. In a way, I agree with it. But it also seems wrong.
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Post by Valbroski on Mar 24, 2020 13:25:32 GMT -5
I work for UPS. Someone started an online petition demanding we get hazard pay. In a way, I agree with it. But it also seems wrong. That seems fair to me.
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Post by bad guy™ on Mar 24, 2020 13:39:06 GMT -5
I work for UPS. Someone started an online petition demanding we get hazard pay. In a way, I agree with it. But it also seems wrong. You absolutely should. Healthcare, food, sanitation, grocery, and mailing workers should all be getting hazard pay. I know locally, our big grocery chain Giant Eagle is temporarily bumping up the pay of its employees, and nationally ALDI is doing the same. But those workers are putting themselves and their families at risk during this. Doctors and nurses know these risks, but this isn't something Joe Doe at Walmart signed up for when interviewed for a part time stocking gig a few months back.
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Post by PJ on Mar 24, 2020 14:58:53 GMT -5
I work for UPS. Someone started an online petition demanding we get hazard pay. In a way, I agree with it. But it also seems wrong. Unless things have changed since I got injured You’ll be lucky if you just don’t get harassed by your supervisors if you call out sick.
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Mar 24, 2020 15:10:03 GMT -5
I work for UPS. Someone started an online petition demanding we get hazard pay. In a way, I agree with it. But it also seems wrong. Unless things have changed since I got injured You’ll be lucky if you just don’t get harassed by your supervisors if you call out sick. No, you're right. I've had the 26th & 27th penciled off months ago. (My nephew & I were supposed to see the 35th anniversary of "Pee Wee's Big Adventure" in NYC). I reminded 3 different supervisors & 2 different managers about it & they acted like I was being a traitor. Mind you, the last time I took off was October for a medical procedure. And they acted the same way.
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Post by bad guy™ on Mar 24, 2020 15:15:51 GMT -5
Unless things have changed since I got injured You’ll be lucky if you just don’t get harassed by your supervisors if you call out sick. No, you're right. I've had the 26th & 27th penciled off months ago. (My nephew & I were supposed to see the 35th anniversary of "Pee Wee's Big Adventure" in NYC). I reminded 3 different supervisors & 2 different managers about it & they acted like I was being a traitor. Mind you, the last time I took off was October for a medical procedure. And they acted the same way. How dare you request a day off and not work yourself to death 24/7, 365 (366 this year) for a company that couldn't give two craps if you croaked on your lunch break, just replace your corpse with a new driver whilst in the middle of the worst outbreak in 110 years?
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 24, 2020 15:24:01 GMT -5
I work for UPS. Someone started an online petition demanding we get hazard pay. In a way, I agree with it. But it also seems wrong. I'm in favor. You don't have a choice to stay home or isolate yourself in nature. Nothing wrong about it. Everyone should be either rewarded or made whole since people are just getting screwed royally right now, either by being forced to close or being forced to work in these conditions. It won't happen, but if you have the opportunity you shouldn't feel guilty for taking advantage.
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Post by Mongo Bears on Mar 24, 2020 16:11:21 GMT -5
All essential workers are working in hazardous conditions right now not just one company. The supermarket workers make very little and frequently have older people working there
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Post by PJ on Mar 24, 2020 16:16:41 GMT -5
All essential workers are working in hazardous conditions right now not just one company. The supermarket workers make very little and frequently have older people working there Yup. My mother-in-law has gone to work every day risking her life and my father-in-law’s who is on oxygen for the last two years because his lungs are working at 40%.
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Mar 24, 2020 16:58:36 GMT -5
No, you're right. I've had the 26th & 27th penciled off months ago. (My nephew & I were supposed to see the 35th anniversary of "Pee Wee's Big Adventure" in NYC). I reminded 3 different supervisors & 2 different managers about it & they acted like I was being a traitor. Mind you, the last time I took off was October for a medical procedure. And they acted the same way. How dare you request a day off and not work yourself to death 24/7, 365 (366 this year) for a company that couldn't give two craps if you croaked on your lunch break, just replace your corpse with a new driver whilst in the middle of the worst outbreak in 110 years? One of the managers actually said "Lots of people are out of work because if this. Just be grateful you have a job right now." And after dealing with so much bullsh*t for the past 15 years, I just keep telling myself "I am just a cog in a large machine. If that cog should break, it can be replaced." Fun times right now. Only last month I was thinking of buying a small farm in Tennessee. Now everything is on hold.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Mar 24, 2020 18:12:15 GMT -5
I work in a food place and let me tell you, they did not let us wear masks last week and all we got was a $2 increment to our hourly pay. That and the fact that we were exposed to plenty of people who did not stay 6ft away. I wasn’t feeling well the last week, so I’ve been calling out of work. Unfortunately, they want you to use PTO or have someone donate their PTO hours if you don’t have any. It’s just ridiculous. I’m afraid to go back to work in all honesty.
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Post by bWo on Mar 24, 2020 18:39:56 GMT -5
Most non essential services in Canada have closed. Gas stations, grocery stores remain open. Fast food places are currently operating only 6am-8pm but they'll be next to close. My wife is a teacher and it appears she's done work now until at least September of next school year. Done going to the classroom that is. She's expected to work from home but there's been no directives given yet. My provincial government announced that liquor and marijuana stores will remain open over concerns that closing these services may result in an uptake in domestic and child abuse cases. A harsh reality here on the South Shore of Nova Scotia. Huh? I live in Toronto. There's basically NOTHING shut down. The "essential services" list was 0ver 70 services long. There are office jobs that are on the list, but with them comes a potential for shortages. So stores like "Staples" and other office supply chains are staying open as well. Manufacturing jobs were deemed essential, and with that comes a need for safety equipment. So places that sell steel toe boots like "Mark's Work Warehouse" are all open. Manufacturing jobs may also need tools for repairs. So of course places like "Home Hardware" are open. It's like a game of connect the dots that keeps going. One thing was called essential, and then other "related" services tagged along. Nothing is going to get accomplished.
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Post by LA Times on Mar 24, 2020 18:47:48 GMT -5
Most non essential services in Canada have closed. Gas stations, grocery stores remain open. Fast food places are currently operating only 6am-8pm but they'll be next to close. My wife is a teacher and it appears she's done work now until at least September of next school year. Done going to the classroom that is. She's expected to work from home but there's been no directives given yet. My provincial government announced that liquor and marijuana stores will remain open over concerns that closing these services may result in an uptake in domestic and child abuse cases. A harsh reality here on the South Shore of Nova Scotia. Huh? I live in Toronto. There's basically NOTHING shut down. The "essential services" list was 0ver 70 services long. There are office jobs that are on the list, but with them comes a potential for shortages. So stores like "Staples" and other office supply chains are staying open as well. Manufacturing jobs were deemed essential, and with that comes a need for safety equipment. So places that sell steel toe boots like "Mark's Work Warehouse" are all open. Manufacturing jobs may also need tools for repairs. So of course places like "Home Hardware" are open. It's like a game of connect the dots that keeps going. One thing was called essential, and then other "related" services tagged along. Nothing is going to get accomplished. Toys R Us in Canada is closed for at least a few weeks
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Post by PJ on Mar 24, 2020 18:51:00 GMT -5
^ I am surprised TRU is closed. Seeing they sell Baby food/formula, diapers & baby wipes. which I hear are all are hard to find here in the states.
With shipping carriers I read a story in regards to “sick days” that a company said it was “loaning” their employees 100 hours during this pandemic, but they’ll have to pay them back when it’s over. So even then they’ll still lose two and a half weeks of pay at some point.
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